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Round table - data as a key enabler of sustainable mobility
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Thursday, Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:32 p.m. · 23m 14s
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it sounds so uh as uh we have seen uh the four
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of you all developing some projects that all based on the collection
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and the the treatment of a mobility data and yet i've heard yesterday that uh
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this year to emissions in the world have a reason once again by not point five percent
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worse we have said that really didn't ooh
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so for the last thirty uh so we have
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and the impression that uh there isn't a massive impact
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on a system abilities of the remote first question to you
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which is that in fact to the project starts uh you really it what are the impacts that in fact you can uh not is uh
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for example or how do people go to the station what do we do after was what is to be re backed
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on uh in fact the fruit itchy and improvements and in fact
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dual reduction uh all of the negative uh
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impact of transport on the environment and also probably
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on the social allies because it's obviously not a that for them to spend two hours in traffic jams
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every morning so i don't know would like to uh start on this topic us through the projects
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that will lead what are the impacts that you're not just on this a martyr offers a celebrity
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i don't mind a starting we work with us with f. f. or well done so for
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the last two years now we all stakeholders in the s. b. b. green plus product and
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in fact uh we all g. i. n. g.
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n. b. r. and understanding the impact of a mobility
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have as a service not only for public transport in the nudity bases also was car sharing back sharing
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in fact in understanding how people in the future when they would have a a
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range a wide range of uh mobility a more what will be the impact on that
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how would have trouble today with the car was public transport versus an of about that i could use almost
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on a limited basis and the impact that this that could have on
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my own car one footprints soul in fact uh we have been working
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on that issue for the last two years now and we have seen the new results that uh we extract compared to what we collect
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that the carbon footprint as a do we choose to because people use public transport them all
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in the sense that they have uh some solutions nah that all integrated in the us uh
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season tickets all sorts of engines and this is integrating the data that we can collect so we had a very concrete example
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of analysis data was to be carried out far cry and that wants to will launch a mobility as a service which are
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he's a a big to um being used by everybody
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everywhere and yet i and the this is something that uh
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was a really great experience with great results that yeah and uh which means that the data that would generate will
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to enable us to determine whether this is working on out and uh this is working somebody else wants to reply
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i have quite an extremely viewpoint on some of the topics are quite like the kind of uh
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questions that rank also that's got your t. v. then if well
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using energy regular to model on the whole switzerland the global impact uh
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in fact uh would obviously be committee do do question is a local a questionnaire local matter
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if we look at the at the pier for the close system what is your turn to get energy would've been
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to set up some uh seventy three calls uh this is what uh operate is
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all used to use it and therefore there would have been an impact on the side
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area and it was a river going nearby so i think that would have been an impact there so i think that uh
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it's almost like what i'm saying sick global act local or which means that a globally
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as long as the asian countries in jihad united states of sin not understood
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that there are the ones producing the most and that causes problems on a global level or no
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the kind of level of the planet uh as for your question is to tech uh
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uh some time however what we can do our technological level uh we used to be ready
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for that to happen so just those who will produce some sensors for if you break words
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and autonomy so cars if tomorrow though or big requirements for this and this is what uh
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uh i uh is happening as a was mentioned earlier on
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the technologies nobody's with another twenty or thirty years so we all
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preparing the next step in facts and i think that the impact today we need to think about is locally
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to think okay what's uh is the impact on in my life with his mobility system
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what is more sustainable from ally from databases and local level and we can act on that
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level but none of our technologies within about and you have to be just a couple footprint
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and for people not to uh the industry to buy a intoxicating
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uh smokes and the fumes and everything that uh is in yeah
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my question is also a bunch of lawn experience and the data that you collect you collect the
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merge she operators the kinds of data so those on the data from the smile and
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therefore how does that enable you locally loose
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to the various projects that you already to reduce
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all to uh the dude footprint all to make more sustainable why no menu mode of transport
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once again if uh go back to the media example which is the is on uh the bottom of the city but without
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it's quite easy to calculated the number of kilometres uh
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done but i do users whether professional users or particular as
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oh oh individual people rather using that's a particular mode of transport and we can see
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how much a c. o. two we have a safe the compared to thirty system just uh
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calculation that can be carried at work quickly what we have to null also is that even if everybody says the data in your
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there's a conventional side to it is quite confident uh from that mental about the best model
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cancer owns the data and there is no money ties in with the data uh hey all
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this is written black and white on the contracts and especially in uh
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how do system learns and uh with machine learning
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and not sure divisions there is no crisscrossing of data
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somebody else
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yes
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when our own aim is to make traffic more through rita in cities first of all by knowing
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the the traffic fuel is that uh the injunctions in real time and uh which
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i use to communicate to with a different year injunctions and also we is uh
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a small it's a a traffic lights i'm pretty five traffic
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and with the two predictions we can or soul uh improve uh
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the intelligence uh ahead and also what we want to do is to
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uh improve the soft uh fruity which me and soft mobility which is
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a model transported because more important cities which is the bicycle and electric
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bikes and we do not want to wait on the red light whether we're
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uh oh walk uh or whether with a bicycle user we don't or you want to wait at a red light and deceased
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how we try to uh uh improve a fluidity with soft mobility by you
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knowing how many bags so which is by having tried to ignore the to a favour that
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yes i have two example also to compute examples to give you one uh which is about
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the a reduction of the risk of traffic
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jams a abrasion about for example by opening the
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when when the the the traffic is uh not as weird as could be and there's another example for example in terms of uh
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zero two which is you can recall operation and uh yeah but also the no is a polish uh and
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uh from trance board uh for example or we have
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a second part in the project uh funded by the
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federal feast on vitamins in order to be juice uh the creation of noise of
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trance passing by because the rag so vibrating and uh for how to mitigate
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that noise by using those some special materials that will all currently developing so
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no it's so of course is also a source of
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uh that we need to uh think about and uh reduce
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just one last moment what is very important also in the
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is a smart mobility systems we call them the smartest search
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this is the necessity to use energy appropriately that is the
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main fundamental point it was mentioned at the beginning of the afternoon
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there is a clean energy and energy energy also today is sold today
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saying that okay tomorrow everybody buys electric very course let's say they're free
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and a couple impact uh on some regions where uh maybe
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or not dealing with a nuclear energy and i'm not talking about nuclear energy problems in a long term basis or
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we talk about call for example but the fact that we could have
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a control tower and uh orchestrate a this was best mark this is
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to say that we we only use district minimum in terms of
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a course in order to satisfy demand and that is a real uh
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uh issue which is the public uh transport operators uh just
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is octave autonomous tickets not for that to be before but
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because there are fewer drivers it would cost a lot of money but also the problem is that if you have
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to move for more than twelve uh meters uh it's not acceptable in the mall and even was electric if everybody
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but it was electric and everybody goes to the charging pointed using the network and
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i doing today and this is about by caught i'm not sure that this would work very well so we need some
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intentions behind that otherwise would just replace one problem by another vendor
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it would seem to be pretty good if we do not have enough existence anymore
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but yet uh we will not this is we have a massive impact on operation
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well you have all the mentioned in fact the importance of uh
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guaranteeing confidentiality of the data are being corrected
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but uh to send 'em uh in some systems that all multimodal much operators
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multi state cold who's uh we're talking about city is we're talking about a
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train operators a high we operate as mortal we operators et cetera so isn't
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isn't it within inter operability about consolidating these different data between different operators that uh we
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will be able to obtain real value because then this would we value on the system level
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rather than saying my bosses work well but uh on the other end it doesn't
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work very well for my taxes and how do you do this how do you
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guaranteed that confidentiality where the data as stays with this matter
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right at the same time for the data to be available in the pool that would make that a system uh efficient
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it's a good question it's what i wanted to show once again is it to be a system which is the synchronisation
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which is a possible because we have this you have said that i have a set
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up a whole other data collection system have all the data out to be available and
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we're not just talking about his data are we talking about the system state on that's where
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in terms of consumers actually we need to be where in comparing to use data for example when
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i figured it was from c. f. f. and one of the first
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version was uh did you see the alternate because it was recorded what information
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we're talking about the information and the data from the system which clearly can be shared and would be imposed
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by the legislators because we're talking about a
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pro uh intellectual property and allergies so for example
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a a a nice such a information either documents and so forth no such information is available
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nothing in common pool whatsoever but once again this information we're gonna system
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can be a shadow bore however us for uses data of coulthard has to be protected
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otherwise they would be so much push back from the uses that uh this will block everything
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do you want to add something
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why does for motion time what we do in fact in terms of data
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out the data remain available for the user would belong to do use our search
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i think uh we have a wheel right to make us to to to have a separation between the of a run the the
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mobility for example what all the time table so the train the
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bus easily verna shot all surveys uh with the g. p. s. uh
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attach the and the data are coming from the uses that
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are in fact what all the request for mobility from the users
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and will focus on the uses a requests uh uh and is
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take added on to the person who owns that small phones so
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the power remains we used to use a run that was and
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needs to be able to suppress the data or we use the
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collection of has to be the and uh in of total conformance maybe
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we some of barriers to entry because not everybody can do that kind of thing to take some time it has to be developed the ground
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and we started working on these uh a hand in hand with some uh
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public transport operators so that uh issue that's that was present from the very beginning where our infrastructure
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hard to really be a big it's a a little old uh to uh be in conformance with the
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o. g. p. d. a registration so false so there is also the question of
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who wants that they tended yeah data is on by the user when it's uh
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right that we have some uh separations another two page to me to be able to say that this data belongs to
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to use a right not to who unfortunately who work on the lot
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of the data are that don't share this whatsoever not even on anonymous amanda
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ah on aim is for us to make that data anonymous in order to
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uh have some value on that without identifying who is that particular use uh
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in the hand if that person as our rock wall solution on the smart phone that can remove it
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but yet is very different between the mobility of a render the mobility world
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do you want to add something guys know okayed for in question
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we have seen the different ecosystems being presented earlier on
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we had some uh mobile manufacturers printer manufacturers german manufacturers
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we would so what some system manufactures system supplies
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all right i'll component suppliers for the automotive sector where european and
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then as for the rest of us it was american or chinese
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how do you see the situation uh hard to companies that was uh up
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in the i. t. pile out of sustainable mobility base in europe how can they
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face d.'s a particular massive a steam rollers such as
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google for example and hardly you played a difficult part
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well yeah it is difficult but hard uh in
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part is to be applied to we say european commissioner
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i think that we have to start being schizophrenia in europe for example we cannot say on
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one hand oh we more is coming from the latin with the chinese coming from the right
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and yet no out a um a favour uh
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idea existing i. t. cystic assistant for example the last
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announcements with the olympic games in paris and i would not mention the name of the french manufacturers where
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they have some she do alliances wheeze um the american actors and i would
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say businesses business that have no peachy what we will not do whatsoever are
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don't recess in a way and uh we have to focus uh not say we don't use that technology
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because we don't want to use the american technology would use the chinese or something of that uh
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or the i think that uh in the end would last american technology if we divide
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oh do do global the planet in three parts in fact we would
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have the american attack version one side creation technology and the other and then
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they're european technology where the if we put the singapore in japan
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a side the best uh transport technologies in europe also we have
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to make sure that uh that that is possible to use these and uh we
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have to find a does not is a possible times the european a program and uh
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when i see a number of these choices analysts into work that we have to do on the ground
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and energy that we have to do probably in all that was some opponents in uh in order to um
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make some dates and get some contract i don't understand that i don't understand why would love this on one side and
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on the other hand though without wanting the part about in france for example wouldn't see that was
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when no this is politics in fact this is what we found in frowns and then yeah paris
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why on them all uh i the sticky part that said earlier on
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this fantasy that we have more than five uh actors in the autonomous or
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sector in switzerland that's credible why didn't we have a meeting between
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these operators with uh the purchase of twenty shot or so in
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order to minimise costs et cetera so or would have at some stage to be honest with us as we cannot on one and uh
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a user shaved and yet uh not a um make sure that we have the
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right grounds for the european ecosystem so we have everything in europe sensor technology will just
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a technology orchestration uh and everything
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is at our disposal in europe there is nothing missing whatsoever but
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asked for this kind of slide this couldn't you just to something else
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we cannot carry on with that kind of that otherwise we just completed
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apart out and uh would let them uh and uh and uh we don't provide service but if we want to fight let's go for it
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well maybe just one thing to uh then the it's true that for uh
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a company for example well based in germany and uh
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we seek really data when you compare didn't devalue rose
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don't variation now for some companies in the sense actress ourself as your anyhow to stay so in asia
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there is a massive a gap so therefore we also come from
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european uh funding in motion that we uh started within a crime it k. uh
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which is in fact a regular penn foundation so we do not obviously
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uh be ungrateful about these uh a very grateful in fact
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because the development of some most more started to start with
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after filling that is uh uh is good to start with but
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then afterwards once uh the lawn just taken place and we start the
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accessing the market uh and the commercial man now we'll find that we're at a
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stage where it's more difficult to access a manet where we do a lot of uh
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internal are angie and we need a lot of money in order to develop what we do and yet uh there's a get
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so i think that's important to uh consider this
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particular gap and uh i think also that uh
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this is something that was your lot in uh europe
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and maybe less in other ecosystems that would uh explain maybe
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the fact that there are some companies that on paper or was so good as a in
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the united states but with a different access to a capital funds so that is a problem
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why does that because uh we lack some particular act uh is uh
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we have seen uh you buy a lift that many others to justice latvia
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these all significant uh actors with chip okay it's uh as we
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say in that particular area outside from the private investors aside from
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venture capital used to was in europe uh it would struggle to say uh
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maybe with a fine barbara black are in frowns just if you run that appear
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but yet there are very few and far between so they're all know actors us that's considered in the market that means that
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well i will uh put fifty million all our hundred new company because i know
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they would be brought back by yeah yeah back out or something of that nature
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yeah but i think that we have a very very strong will will with a big smile and it's to to to
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the founders i found on the come from urban planning and public transport also had
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a very strong a question from the best mark product which is not research product
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we should try to make a product from this is product to start with is that try to us of that was a project c. d. too
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and at the end of this who said well you with a viable go you create a company under these
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days it's almost always the same vision as i've said the the now use the same size that doesn't change
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but the thing is
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we need to have the means available would be to give ourselves to write means even uh
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do plan and the new mobility a real when frown so we're talking about hundreds of millions
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and subject yeah so we need to keep in mind no that powerless e. g. consist um uh to mike
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nine this actors like early for example when no let's not forget away more with the big company with
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the billions behind and everything it has some fit as if it doesn't make any money never mind you there
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does receive some suspensions privately but it is it's a
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pension some subsidies as for public transport fifty to seventy percent
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receive subsidies what exactly on the same concept and yet if we turn the top off there's no service animal
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oh that's its face when we know they what they come from so it's quite a
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uh extra strange that to send the rate care get some not
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so much money but what what i'm trying to say is that
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i never carried out this today it may be that i can say can look into that it'll be interesting but if you get that
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all they announce in the opinions of euros things stand
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in the public transport systems what tasty announced that we get
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that would be quite an interesting and point to look at
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i if we compare everything we said look we've got technology why don't we do it
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it's really the prosody he gave you put unity in
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the operators you on a daily basis so working on the
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fate and make sure that he wants to make sure that they're able to offer that type of service so today
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it was then it's not so acceptable don't wanna come back
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after one week of a travelling that i have to take into
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which is different than in twenty minutes ten minutes away from the dance which will take
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i i should be able to pay for the for the transporting assent to take me
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home quickly because it's friday night and i think that's okay great
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it's a an issue or a that's now come fought within our
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school on the next uh presentation and i thank you very much
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and i encourage you to keep from discussing the values
Conference Program
Address from the Commune de Bagnes
Eloi Rossier, President of the Commune de Bagnes
Dec. 5, 2019 · 9:11 a.m.
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Introduction to the Forum
Isabelle Schirmer, VMIF Founder
Dec. 5, 2019 · 9:19 a.m.
Political economy of transport in switzerland. Who governs, who decides and who provides funding?
Bernard Wuthrich, Political Journalist, Le Temps
Dec. 5, 2019 · 9:26 a.m.
Be bold! Rethinking mobility for future generations
Marcel Maurer, President of TeleSion, Board Member of FMV, former President of the city of Sion
Dec. 5, 2019 · 9:48 a.m.
Questions & Answers
Panel
Dec. 5, 2019 · 10:08 a.m.
Integrating mobility planning and land planning in the alps, application to telecabine connections between mountains and valleys
Romain Fournier, Mobility Specialist, Antenne Région Valais romand
Dec. 5, 2019 · 10:17 a.m.
Telecabine Connections : Vision from the Canton du Valais and Planning Considerations
Gilles Délèze, Telecabine Connections Expert, Mobility Service, Canton of Valais
Dec. 5, 2019 · 10:20 a.m.
Télé Marécottes Project and challenges for local communes
Florian Piasenta, President of the Commune of Salvan
Dec. 5, 2019 · 10:30 a.m.
Commune de Bagnes Project - Possible inclusion of the Telecabine Le Châble Verbier in the Regional Travel Transport System
Guillaume Page, Planner, Commune de Bagnes
Dec. 5, 2019 · 10:41 a.m.
Questions & Answers
Panel
Dec. 5, 2019 · 10:54 a.m.
Transitioning from legacy mobility to future mobility, technology options and choices
Christoph Ellert, Professor HES SO Valais Wallis and Jakob Rager, Director of the Centre for Energy Research for Municipalities (CREM)
Dec. 5, 2019 · 11:35 a.m.
Project OFT mobility lab – Decision support tool for planning mobility networks in an energy context First results – Measuring and Visualising Mobility flows in the City of Sion
Léonard Evequoz, Coordinator Agglo Valais Central
Dec. 5, 2019 · 12:02 p.m.
Questions & Answers
Panel
Dec. 5, 2019 · 12:17 p.m.
Foster sustainable innovation in mountainous areas through the project 'PARCOURS I-tinérants in the Mont Blanc region
Diane von Gunten & Ismael Grosjean
Dec. 5, 2019 · 12:23 p.m.
Examples of local charging infrastructure for e-mobility
Blaise Lovisa, Commercial Director and Energy Products Manager, ALTIS Group SA
Dec. 5, 2019 · 1:59 p.m.
Where are mobility investments going?
Thibaut Mueller, Associate Partner, McKinsey Geneva office and member of the McKinsey Centre for Future Mobility
Dec. 5, 2019 · 2:22 p.m.
108 views
Questions & Answers
Panel
Dec. 5, 2019 · 2:53 p.m.
Introduction of the panel discussion : data as a key enabler of sustainable mobility
Fabrice Delaye, Scientific journalist, Heidi News
Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:08 p.m.
Presentation of the Transport Centre of EPFL (TRACE)
Simone Amorosi, Deputy Director, Transport Centre of EPFL (TRACE)
Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:10 p.m.
Presentation of Swisstraffic SA
Alain Bützberger, Swisstraffic SA
Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:16 p.m.
Presentation of Bestmile SA
Luc Texier, Head of Sales Europe, Bestmile SA
Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:19 p.m.
Presentation of Motiontag GmbH
Fabien Sauthier, COO, Motiontag GmbH
Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:27 p.m.
Round table - data as a key enabler of sustainable mobility
Panel
Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:32 p.m.
The « MobiChablais » network, in the Chablais region across the Vaud and Valais cantons (Aigle, Ollon, Monthey, Collombey-Muraz)
Hugues Romain, Head of Development, Transports Publics du Chablais SA
Dec. 5, 2019 · 3:55 p.m.
On demand transport platforms projects in Orsières and Sembrancher (Canton of Valais)
Daniel Goncalves, Traveler Department Manager, TMR SA
Dec. 5, 2019 · 4:12 p.m.
Quick Pick » A non-digital ridesharing system for convenient, safe and congenial transport. Pilot Project, Commune de Bagnes with support from the Canton du Valais
David Stocco, collaborator, Nascatech Sàrl
Dec. 5, 2019 · 4:19 p.m.
Questions & Answers
Panel
Dec. 5, 2019 · 4:30 p.m.
Launch of the techtour mobility scale-up programme for western switzerland - Welcome from the Canton of Valais
Pierre-Yves Délèze, General Secretary and Head of communication of the Department of Economy and Education, Canton of Valais
Dec. 5, 2019 · 4:33 p.m.
Overview of the European Programme for Mobility Scale-Up by TechTour
William Stevens, Group Managing Director, TechTour
Dec. 5, 2019 · 4:41 p.m.
The Swiss Mobility Ecosystem
Eric Plan, General Secretary, Cleantech Alps
Dec. 5, 2019 · 4:56 p.m.
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