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the reason the call me no actually yeah it appears so much tracy lead but
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no in the seats but they the print something was almost comes more uh uh does also that
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to the percentage to some more conducive may evoke a man the
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difficulty most p. c. v. gives you a a to the border there
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no we don't want to be a three school meeting that keeps around confer also that
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don't yeah the due to war show the cannot use it
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to the the the cure viewed columbus you want to uh
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not to your visit to you on the the the the the late yeah shoes utica
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he looked call the uh that should take to the gym
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but but i so ga separate lucille exposes all kinds of
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this with more uh_huh done less uh the the i. p.'s
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possibilities culminate okay six p. c. to publishers do more
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did men yeah develop the double the let's say you want without should take you
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yeah it the uh the the last week the unknown a deduction
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there sure sure uh see but you yes either but i could
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on the book by shows released wow but you know super aloof a good
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dupont books with most young duplicated one hopes the least wow
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donate division complete more people want to the shoes compulsory the company
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this was the last uh let deduction the price p. c. v. good yeah
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g. d. she's got uh the the shape should do your three skull mean
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but we do the text the base of the cliff d. but
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no one no one uh just seen yeah looked in yeah these are these are the
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the chicks eastern products young uh was uh is the remote
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but more to see the we should use out there is it
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le um nobody should be deeply very the most
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uh legal review it exceeds divorcee may you please e.
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but corpora yeah in the pitch comics young
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didn't is on the same principle be do
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j. p. blue you look american and yeah yeah the per hour
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or other countries them you see look around the house or something huh
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he will be the all the but i but the
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chevrolet publicity manager there should be poor build up speed
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also should be pretty easy but maybe own fit the the attorneys we don't
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build the colour you so no movie but simply p. t. v. you the
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lip and we pay it seems that the call you up and prepared to
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say that because you always some t. c. minute keep that the usual we
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but the either the the at preschool mean that the yeah yeah
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adjustable keep all the blue decompress the about all the and
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the not decided aspire to be good enough they're pretty big
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the upper lip service your key the upper me do we need
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to make a c. d. me dude me to do the the
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tool she didn't should take two more they have no i probably don't use them all the point of you you know don't you
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l. c. w. sue over the
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mm mm but the gender architecture
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p. n. that yea led uh by the blade says it ask and
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that that's good uh_huh not most there does it not be also academy cat
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but only the playboy should people better shows one more the we don't want to let me see not don't you be
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pushing your rigorous uh uh some for that i will not
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because they're that long back to the city machine a yeah but
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some too muscular so your lipstick do mary kay
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sure let's say that should be pyramid again i'll see
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uh certainly wouldn't imagine it could make the for the national prefer i think it should be in the do
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law prevents the it does not to be should be become open to publish the i'm sure all slew of uh
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no d. to sumo ah but up for uh a long delay
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some are better it's gonna mean that it p. d. lit up a lot and
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the uh should do more there than that he me you said that the uh
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the the the uh the for some laughs a lot and that a lot public school d.
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e. dude she does some correctly stick them a bit me pay a lemon here don't mostly
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so j. some be truly a limit you know put them in a a
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two to three p. no i don't but there should be no more them
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so lets you pick your big homemade but uh the core bluesy mix window draw it
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michelle she plays on portals room that's good
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via the say the money and the d. crudely
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lush big you'll be due leap at the muppet slowly document the
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remote that indeed they the upper that limit yeah sampras proposals will be
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the old uncivil problem you know the the uh the other crew image that
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modem need they they actually do i killed kids verse there should be you
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get about the of this on a pack the media peak is should most she diversion paged young
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but uh uh a limited yeah calm the one you know the um did you should you
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yeah yeah the some powerpoint for the mode dial let me near the you have immediate people
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who we all live wire in the yeah the continued people but the but the apology effect
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little bit so these all the the get the normal didn't need to
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motion you buffy good be a preschool need a
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phone five seymour repair that the maple move move
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we see a late prefers a a priest done
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that in a law most used for anybody to lou
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move program in media in modern e. t.
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yeah exactly mon le lap piece to do the
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show shaky correctly liza superbowl you you look so
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multi million worship be productive to work that people think we're articulation of should proceed on that
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he sunset should repeat the done new work shop you know you use a bit
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no one should um let's see you're not allowed to do that a six on that should be you know beloved be inaccurate
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yeah but it's a problem you know the work actually been up a a beep us young ages we uh your trees but they don't know about
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and i thank you very much for your very very
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uh the arrows uh uh infrared and you really know everything
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okay so thank you also to see you don't but the and but maybe a four
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invited me to uh be part of these uh a project on uh on by price so
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'cause i i don't know much about advice or some of my students uh one of my students knows quite a bit
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but what i can try to do is to place but but i saw in the larger context
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of the experiment that to placing the fourth or a ideas
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i'm in and not only in uh into the make up of course
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everywhere except global uh phenomena that i have been studying with a p. h. d. students
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at princeton so the see sarah what i'm presenting the other places or whatever at these
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project with that uh you know the or a one sided
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that on a number yeah meister but also all that use these
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uh in the beauty in the beauty program or file of print them
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so this is an ongoing would be a it d. or collaborative project
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uh uh involving deep archival research uh oral histories
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lectures i more so but that would be kind of quality is very important because these you know
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generation just deal i found so it's very important to you then also
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without batteries so to bring been interviewed into film
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that because that's part of the deal design but um
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the other nice thing ah part of line in my case in this
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uh was so but i dunno princeton is is uh is collaborative work
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i think we did you think of precisely between teachers and
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students are in between it's colour some protagonists are kind of rare
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did you hear what yeah okay but um in fact multiple point that one east of uh of these do you
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i would also teaches where also a a. r. t.
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v.s but also white those and where of soul activities
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uh i think for example and mark with all the different i. e.
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e. e.
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yeah
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yep
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it's it's like
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oh okay so yeah example in them out you know where we are maybe with them
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i it so
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oh yes yes okay so here you see in them out
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some of the uh is that without this the and i
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uh it's a include they think that you can you know i think that a a ah enough
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of paris after six they it okay for now
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all they easy to the fact that but that little earth but i also think that are more on
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the edges of them up like they are in the other or what's our survey is a victim of voices
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for the device with of uh of this sign or so all
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the schools in that dilemma in fact we have no meaning more
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that uh uh that will be here late to whom on with who loved idea that that is that that
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i i mean experiments that then uh you do though of course you can
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thing not only about a a but the of candidates uh with the exit program
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uh um and so many other things in the money of course these warm it's very difficult for
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the the don't yet but i will uh the percent in each one of these cases uh later
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but in terms of the of the research i was saying that in fact more a protagonist of the spirit
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we're also going so far teachers archivist activist uh
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uh try to say that there are a thing for example uh about young cover the co what
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not only member of the i'm not with the uh partly but here is the now the no
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again with a is to those that are trying to a close in fact they get close
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uh they um they be annihilated all comply with the hand of no no nineteen sixty eight
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well think about a global to uh the group uh
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amount of fluorescent with your uh with whom uh its data
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well think about uh uh to lower and on farm and all
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the propeller most of these be you think even about the the forty
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mm itself a member of the communist party and uh uh it
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radically changing that we we understand uh architecture history in that to you
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i see these i say this because we to sewer service uh aspect of it and
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so we see it scholarships just having three other facts are in the
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work history asked not something distant but something a life fully and alive
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they probably just part of a series of experiments which go back at least a a change yours
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and they need the idea was to try to find a new uh if you want a
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or typical uh more than a particular before the
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peers be a program yeah it happening to them
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in which instead of of having the students work in isolation in some kind of forced to do the research
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or perhaps only opened or to them and their adviser and it will have plenty of time
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to do that you take a student's india first and second year and what within collaborative the on a project
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he said we uh for me to introduce them to uh um the methodology but it's also
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a way to stop this relationship with others and to know how to work uh uh in collaboration
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um uh is also very important to me in this project that
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the research is always or interest or the production of twelve something
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what is a book a conference an exit with the on off
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in a et cetera so the biological aim is not simply to reflect
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on a a different kinds of midi on the relations between architects on different kinds of media but
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also uh to produce you know we media that is to learn about a communication by communicating to
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some also uh uh forty years c. speech the programs uh what first establishing the
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united states and just time to rethink uh the people want to collect brought these programs
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to give you a same sixty eight was cornell seventy berkeley seventy three planes don't
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it might be a a seventy four car but eighty seven so hard body copy is the problem
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until eighty seven eighty nine b. g. near columbia university ninety four
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angie a two thousand nine so you can say in many ways that a p. h. d.
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programs uh i still trying to pull it out what is it that they are supposed to do
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what is clear to me is that the model of being a kind of isolated yeah it's colour isn't
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on our uh i deeply you are more the collaborative uh i yeah applied thinking of
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design is to you i think they're not precisely as a new model for scholarly uh research
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this may be very without delay lesson from learning uh from us because
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which is precisely this to contact to develop theory i'm part is in
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the form of a very famous book uh and then infer has made us
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in the best uh we treat uh it's quite heavy research just kind of a it's to your project
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uh as a kind of design project right but in the sense of collaborative
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laboratory but also understand so fatigued intersected serve as an act of this time
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so is that the main uh the year two thousand when i took over the production of the a. p. d. a. p. h.
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d. program i have friend about uh eight uh experimenting this is
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presently which include this uh it is one core wore a four houses
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which was just see so far assuming our son and
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also some board work america incriminate it in this book
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yeah it will work a whole vote is that some of the things that you can in my
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opinion they with me here in which is one of the if you it's a a drop the
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uh one of the it is where there is a um mission sixty six so plastic of me get paid
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so copy deportment up yes i see a all pole
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is or or bay themes that emerge in this moment
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uh we also the the separate it called the supreme building which is actually precisely
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uh trying to look uh addict history of the peacekeeper only narcotics or in the united
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way and and also the this is the is the look up or work about it
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i i don't want to put it on all the problem is the they first b. a. programs
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or on the phone i thought maybe there is the and although i think that i think yeah on me eh all
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those uh a lot of the guys man uh uh would
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find it easy to walk there someday when his brother brown
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and my co pays and so many people awaiting board on the
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first uh a p. h. d. program and that could mean eating it
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you know um conference and uh the proceedings probably would be probably spacing
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the next one was the the based on uh for uh which you said became an exhibition any
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was i study on the uh you the magazines
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from the practically the magazines of the sixties and seventies
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we and you have trouble already over a twelve c. d.'s
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a a war why any keep said go and maybe other unable
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to stop uh this one simple discussed these uh effect they may have that's
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an of uh this for example is basically can se was see mister from
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well not to to change that only ah in new york and
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you can see the existing on with the laziness are inside this uh
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uh this both and they said fine line and the wallpaper and
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it's also sound component because uh fragments of day interview sorry these
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the dictionary speaker so that when you are for example under now opposition to hear beta is not talking
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about the beginning of a posse also when you are under active around you make here peter who talking about
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how they came up with the the of forty them right yeah if the wallpaper in it's easy and initial for
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and i get more and i i they were also facts even if they
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can see at the end they also you will also take them and read them
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uh it's anything on was not only a jury service but
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also the design and even the the fabrication itself of the
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uh over the exclusion was done i'm by myself with the with experience in that sense
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was actually very interesting to see if the user rumbling why i'm paid in the library
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uh with uh eh how much some electrical uh these uh
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i end up thinking that this actually is pretty good therapy
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for a writer's block some of these other the sort of the uh when
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non disorders of of p. h. d.s another it's colours uh actually architects like
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like the war with they are a fountain even if you are a doing a
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p. h. d. program emphasise leave us pack was yours says maybe today to get to
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do something at my animal and and and and uh innovative over
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because new york um we invited everybody with by the
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entire team of over six years to cram and now
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uh it was always like a standing room only because of
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that we have more a gallery and uh another maybe of up
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they protagonists of october magazine like rolling it out and let them walk
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it's it data and we've reported all these conversations and another uh is new york so
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you only have to stay in your place and everybody would turn around of them point
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so that some point where enough people uh from london and we do kind of fun london underground uh
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uh and i the air with people like my way
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one peter more and i'm saying with all the underground moccasins
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of landed on all isolates cried from one side
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all uh i think the whole would have to go also plan populate architecturally the magazine in the
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late seventies so so since the vengeful used to do um skyline
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even a up the powerpoint can score line turn happen with you and from the pen of uh
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senior uh in the gallery and uh like weiss out there who has served to
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not even before they excision was open and we also have a an event um
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trendy and they excision travel to other places that you went to uh
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to want they are to this is the ah m. and they are
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yeah yeah where of course eh it's more for most years you have to be careful we couldn't put these kind of war paper but the stories they
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well so we came up with this white paper that is very dedicated and that's
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and destroyed the a the walls and that and they have a lot of uh
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or easy now so we put the oldies yeah that yeah but this is that i have
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to look very different every time the thinking everytime they send us the plan of this space and
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every time i have to be is these resuming all think of uh in the stuff but
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they're all trainers architects anyway to design a day it to be genetic in just see how different
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and also every time i bring a bunch of a student to
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mount but also to present day exclusions they become part of the
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when i was a girl a project to be able not only to do an exhibition but
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also to kind of particularly an idea about what we think that we are trying to do
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from there you went to document the income also what
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i think it is a completely different uh s. face uh
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very important is the newsletter i forgot to the meeting with a group so the fragments of uh
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of the interviews and and the plans of the exhibit yeah maybe dainty thing and getting document there
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and so on a document that we win today uh in unknown where they are we
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are with our friends uh uh a british here and some of us are and that
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so many uh the same people uh thing from the accident would be no it was one of the business dealings
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insert and a lot of people from all over back
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if anyone most uh is right they um because none
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of course the where are sort of people the next morning the next day partly pretty none of the event
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in which the into our group of this or bible members
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of market and uh hitting the table uh either who then
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then it's going to uh yeah but other people like beneath our own if anyone morse
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wondered why that us of the tissue the machine on it is say you probably know uh
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uh this is a proper i'm from paramount be new and modern on 'em basin there
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and uh other people a lot but i'm i'm profile money or
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would be i think less be speed or more it it it
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when they are they engage union went to so it's not been exhibiting astrid case is very important to understand
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that so for example with its place that we go
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willy and something new and denise incorporated into the extrusion
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but i don't know when by the number of people that are from buffalo not i probably avoid are sort of my money or
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our product will formally but other people i found while i'm not a
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lot of people who can be guys non uh what part of the event
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i thought well i knew anything about our keep uh architecture marketing scene now
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in its thing because i study they are and i thought the end but even uh
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i it discover things i didn't know like this man i think all the fly yeah moscow
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which they can sell for or you're we ask i've forgotten that to the to the these magazine
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you got a fantasy here what is happening in buffalo now we bring uh they banned ah ha happening new york
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or in london a too so not only will and what about new moccasins and
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we incorporate it so it grows big switch unless you got from place to place
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and this is incorporated into the it's it's it's kind of fun interactive
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uh archive for an archive every arcs to the people that that's either and i'm kind of observe
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uh they have uh they are here and they we need to also lower they say
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we couldn't put that wall paper on the wall because the walls of course are uh
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they are desperate yet so we came up with the idea
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of this our core down with a x. area the cotton with
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tend to be a a work properly weighted and in fact people in or slow wanted to have um
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uh uh they're trying to do we they want to go back to like the the
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the well to the us to sell it so that we could put it in there but
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some will know what to do with a skate with the with the wallpaper
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here is in oslo uh is the uh at this within in
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buffalo now with the with the plan place in the meantime we came
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up with the book everybody was asking but if they've always able we were having thought about the book it took two years to put together
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they broke with what we thought at this point but in fact as i say it's an exhibition that it's going to the book in fact
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it's just what they exceed what uh uh the research was at this point but of course we
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keep adding a detainee it has been in that in america for example it opening but what paul
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uh the summer where you have here they exhibit in before you open and
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a four hundred and fifty uh people in the opening which was
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very nice because it's a uh it's a nice uh art gallery
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and they never huh architecture and they were very hesitant about an architecture
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exhibit and they keep them in the people in the architect for willow
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architecture you know nobody's interested is never not public the neighbours have been probably
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then with the exception so he was nice also that i'd open the door for
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them to do uh all the extra business because the material architecture can be of interest
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to a lot of people in this case of so graphic designers some foresee and people with it
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and i think we have a number of events including a proper one is squeeze these uh the youth
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and and uh from the uh uh that these people that were doing you the marketing for we didn't know
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with ah i'm from there we went to dealing with again a scene began which
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is a cancer a centre and uh they it's easy service in the in the library
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which is nice because people are they of walking on their thing and they have these other publications
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ah that they can look on their wall yeah and and here is the
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it's a nice place easily and it's lazy and so much about new moccasins that
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never made eating too light basing united states are into euro that we don't
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know anything about in each place again uh it is discussing it with a a
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a students from they are like that on the part about it would be a lot of research on chilean
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magazines but also with proper one east of the the
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the year that we uh incorporate into a they're kind of
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another ah experimenting in princeton was this one which is
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beginning from libby down brought that you're probably familiar with that
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meaningful as big as well after many infrared bit has been used it got brown and government with another one
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ball team for architects and then after for a these
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wrote this is how i'm writing or mining from maybe time
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and we get older we said something going to see them in they are are all these
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and that they are they dinners which has a a same email we would
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look into the archives in the basement looking through all they a local mains
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uh even they did boards that day is to
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you produce a d. a. in in nineteen seventy two
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in which are all all the strong and they look also not only up because of
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that maybe townhouse about how the house was represented in the media is so popular simply and
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number five months uh if it didn't so you you you had very very different indeed basic back that
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has one of these uh maybe townhouses and see if that's making changes to hire or uh that that one
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and eventually oh the nice invited out to a car cost is is the only according to uh
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of uh bob into it the only available house in a in a in a megan
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and easy going inside then that as signs of uh oh
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for a or that's big uh also or or like the owners
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it together with andy warhol also or or some birds i'm i'm believable kind of victorian platter
00:27:48
english you see all these uh uh elements of popular
00:27:52
culture american popular culture together with uh a date or
00:27:57
and uh the eight yes you're right it was precisely to do after you
00:28:01
so we interviewed them on camera i brought up the maker from n. i. d. u.
00:28:06
i. d. on a student and a and a yeah would be uh to do a theme
00:28:13
and also of course uh broke the companion volume planning from the spigot at me about you
00:28:19
look alright probably a playboy add a playboy uh
00:28:23
architecture the research was based on the kind of them
00:28:26
uh idea that there was a lot of architecture in playboy even you never knew about the people in the fifties
00:28:33
make these jobs that i think before the articles are in fact you open playboy you would be of tony's of uh
00:28:38
uh the the quality of the arctic or martin new one article
00:28:43
examples harper articles omni seen article from all kinds of philosophers and writers
00:28:49
all the time but nobody would have about all of you that there is a lot of architects about from the very beginning
00:28:55
of a playboy you have fun divide them need then they move
00:28:59
on to the four nineteen fifty dean is you don't know file
00:29:02
even sorry in a in a noise et cetera to
00:29:05
go to the seventies writing to the radical project that we
00:29:08
have been a talking about like up on from also
00:29:12
with injury uh yeah it sells more uh if it yeah
00:29:17
i exceeded actually in um mostly at the end i
00:29:21
you where you want any was in a in a in
00:29:24
program the salmon is going to be down in um
00:29:27
in from four in february so it best near here um
00:29:33
it's one of these to bunny ears in the case it's time yeah i
00:29:38
in the marketing there is something about architectural they sign an interview with an architect
00:29:42
so you can imagine how much content uh uh them i've seen has in terms of our detection
00:29:48
uh the seats and i a delegated to the production of the of the marty
00:29:53
how was the marketing may with uh have marion bit uh reflect the narrows uh
00:29:59
in the database and i hated to the war because of course a playboy is a product of the of the cold war
00:30:06
and uh it's very important to understand it in these conflicts a wee bit referred to that kind of uh
00:30:11
a good set up and put all these set teachers or uh
00:30:16
uh that related to it to the to the well the part of
00:30:19
it did you get it to make was easy big button or farm
00:30:24
of playboy these uh these these heavy on displaying that the that have no huh
00:30:31
another point what to do with the close said because of course with
00:30:33
all these things that they recommend you to buy which improved window along for
00:30:37
a cabinet uh if it uh where are you supposed to put all this is that and uh
00:30:43
then these details with we um borrow from either but also volunteered for ah in playboy
00:30:50
and so many other sections well the point is that ah on the way include the
00:30:56
the key directly apply to make an architecture and it
00:30:59
was a pilot exhibiting sell power will last this body
00:31:04
and last but not least is radical topic i would see with opening ah these one
00:31:10
which is the one i'm going to talk a little bit more in detail you know
00:31:13
the opening these one as part of the itinerary i'm still uh the
00:31:17
i think on the uh whether it is the um only now and um
00:31:22
uh it's it's of they exceeded yankees marketing side uh i think that the data that is cool
00:31:28
so basis of of the market for their uh
00:31:32
their maximum ah i indicated to places in the war
00:31:35
where these uh experiments uh of campaigning nice i on top
00:31:40
of the stable it's and number of these uh is payments
00:31:44
and uh there are where they can't on the on
00:31:47
the wall oh you must've related to a different uh experiment
00:31:54
and right there you see with some uh basic to uh
00:32:02
is for a radical either the you're right
00:32:07
yeah i haven't seen any good for the safety of this period at this preview
00:32:13
of the of the boards more uh experiment to see when was the last time
00:32:18
but the they were some uh experimentation in architectural integration because of course
00:32:23
they put us of the project that that we're staying away spinning wheel that what we're doing
00:32:28
now in spite of architecture is the oars uh a gradient to uh uh to this moment
00:32:37
it's it's a artfully i was talking with somebody template media about these before these are
00:32:42
uh the different kind of it's it's i say that is good will depend you could
00:32:47
uh pick him up and put them enough although i don't walk out of the exhibit can with a lot of information
00:32:52
all these thirty three cases of a experiments a worldwide
00:32:57
all four of it up again and again a bunch of us when they um presented in the
00:33:03
in a where in uh in baseball where a
00:33:07
lot of events what they mean um ah place
00:33:12
the way these uh i yeah projects uh overlap is actually a part of the
00:33:18
of the middle network to produce a collaborative across generations on the protesting away influence uh
00:33:24
each other and how we if if we always just printed with new kinds of upright
00:33:29
um new kinds of analyses and new kinds of of communication uh they
00:33:34
still these overlap that has been do you put for um for us
00:33:39
the key key point of a credit card will be not want to project the of the recovery that what you project is up it was
00:33:46
you can experiment free up with your role in shaping architectural discourse some
00:33:50
practised mystical part of the twenty century so the organ i see my properties
00:33:55
for research it precisely that these experiments can be understood
00:33:58
are radical architecture product is is in the air on prime
00:34:02
and they are already got in the sense that we understand normally radical a
00:34:06
politically too but also radical in the uh eternal sense coming from the lighting
00:34:11
yeah we already chain as something belonged in a to the root
00:34:16
two is basis and explanations so radical a happy
00:34:20
that with the sake a foundation and the starr
00:34:23
uh something else rather than having fortune disseminate them and the channels
00:34:27
to normative thinking was uh i made your uh forced in port war
00:34:32
uh architecture our house will presumably be neglected in us policy
00:34:38
this was of course a time of a a a collective uh that they yeah these are images of
00:34:46
course of these a moment you of a unit is like the one so about but i used to
00:34:53
but also for the ah ah in and on what basis bar stool that would work around maybe for and
00:34:59
ah it's good because part of uh of these experiments sometimes consisted in in uh
00:35:04
a in actually bypassing the institution itself an organised method might be far infrastructures
00:35:10
as when a bigger moray with every price and and a
00:35:14
in an aunt or an ice these buttons would walk around
00:35:17
uh the finished goods and different things will happen that will be recorded and go on to the next though
00:35:22
and explain what did they made our office in a four star
00:35:26
convey anything yeah in the late fifties uh it kind of as consultant
00:35:32
to um the school of design or any yeah these the lovely thin
00:35:37
yeah and you know with the the or or you can think about uh unequal i think up
00:35:42
one day and the marketing group but in my t. that were funded the no nineteen sixty seven
00:35:48
that's one of the first uh uh it's good to start thinking
00:35:52
about it within of computers in architecture for many people is to
00:35:55
it seems that computers being uh in the nineties and it was something
00:36:00
that happened at columbia university for something the police and cute because three
00:36:05
oh well the the involvement between architecture and no and computers
00:36:10
and to understand the the the history of of these these uh
00:36:14
just to make the important not only i might be but also harbour would remain with uh computers
00:36:22
what comprises all of these uh hopping all these radical up the body integration
00:36:28
this is pretty precisely without prime of a collective you say it did fiance against me
00:36:34
avoid your fifty two channel bureaucratic and capitalise speak uh a structured
00:36:39
the political a landscape uh uh farther transform by the cold
00:36:44
war and maybe it no more would you give on or
00:36:47
you have the efforts on board thickly tennis is right here
00:36:50
and ah an article community working get going to be talking
00:36:55
i'll parties and in fact paris is inevitable uh it here
00:37:00
um it really at the mention of society anybody
00:37:03
dimension of architecture is uh is being a wisdom
00:37:09
and uh but it's not that far you can see a what is going on
00:37:13
in a forest but also quite a different matter things and we have
00:37:17
come up with the third when we were doing the remarks inaccurately cover billy
00:37:22
or would you be it it yeah that what we're all these uh
00:37:27
these protest which also includes protest against the system of increasing on an against
00:37:33
and guess what in the in contemporary against if the goal of the simpler uh
00:37:39
a genius architect and they and they conduct building so basically we're
00:37:42
in the same spot all these years uh i have to write
00:37:47
but they are also of course exporters uh a bookcase
00:37:51
publicly uh you know it's a baseline in nineteen sixty eight
00:37:55
uh you have a database innovative had it i rate talk about
00:37:59
the uh with all the students of me than over by hand
00:38:03
uh they deny lay an even uh the story yeah already
00:38:07
uh the building and and the installation only t. v. that was like the in
00:38:13
the fall of this and you're buying a couple the problem which included a section
00:38:18
for without the they protest of the yams of the protests have
00:38:21
been now incorporated as part of the of the uh exceed the theme
00:38:27
you can think of course about that uh pa and not just part
00:38:31
but columbia university this is say use propane in the comfort of columbia university
00:38:36
maybe it is the billing of architecture a very easy only strike
00:38:40
all you can think about yea a university the
00:38:43
architecture building web form ah down basis pieces they uh
00:38:48
uh and here you have a three the panther a a bummer handing uh
00:38:53
from uh uh the portal go about building distillers were uh of course uh industry
00:38:59
uh protesting a ah the trial of the
00:39:02
population of the trial free yeah pointers and
00:39:06
is precisely in this context that you have to think that this is when it's happening
00:39:11
in addition to deal of than just got brown and all that into the
00:39:15
ah uh and then mean and some maybe down so in the context of these
00:39:20
radical a protest these uh a kind of a is to is
00:39:25
taking place an interesting thing is that they still predictably port every class
00:39:29
is that the last of the news about an governmental because they were a politically what bring into villages that were
00:39:35
analysing what was happening with thousand in america they were putting
00:39:39
into it begins the uh racy al and all the uh
00:39:43
uh uh uh situations that were happening in america in these at this point
00:39:49
so they were sympathetic to distance and you were also sympathetic um ah to them
00:39:56
what this does happen well of course about highway so ah also
00:40:00
the students uh brought the x. o. or in mexico of course
00:40:05
i say this is all against uh i idea political landscape that had been transformed by the core war
00:40:11
yeah are they get in the way that they must get in the faith in the american activity anymore for fifty nine
00:40:17
uh i would maybe get to save and and a and b. ten minutes on the within
00:40:22
vice president of the of the county of this other thing was uh uh the bait as they were
00:40:27
uh depicted in life a magazine would be practically a kind of a
00:40:32
heater and and the meeting kind of kind of calmed down
00:40:36
in the context of these americans above all else we'll file
00:40:40
of appliances were uh it needs understand to make the point the disability of the
00:40:45
american system east yeah it's precisely yeah da yeah that everybody has a house
00:40:52
full of appliances if it didn't so uh and of course
00:40:56
they make and what absolutely terrified the what losing uh the war
00:41:00
uh on the space is based more in the sense of this put me was a already
00:41:05
uh inaudible where the nice i keep having one ms up water
00:41:10
and all that and uh this was somebody to live assistant scenes
00:41:14
yeah they discussing like now we focus on whether uh the makeup as well and tools
00:41:20
with this you can have a uh this was there that is pink or blue or light yellow
00:41:25
instead of having a government of this isn't from the top uh the essays that uh that is white
00:41:32
so ah is precisely discount they so far of fun environment
00:41:37
a build up of a a consumable uh
00:41:40
plastic uh all the exam object of mass produced
00:41:44
uh the sire and little and adobe and technological property
00:41:48
for a tall in science fiction tales now realising
00:41:52
a brave new world of computation got it under spacey
00:41:56
so it's in this context that architecture is uh is reacting is of course not impaired because at all
00:42:03
to uh uh sightseers disabling so to stake its claim i'm it's a new territory
00:42:09
be articulated the relationship to the variety of technological such a political and cultural transformations
00:42:16
that were occurring here you have a all the tupperware products that existed
00:42:21
uh as a a us the presented in a highway in uh the united states
00:42:29
um whether in mass i take a space a uh like this one
00:42:34
and a quarter of a d. nineteen sixty seventy mice in the wall
00:42:39
of two thousand and twenty miles in this is like the new existence minimum for the architects right
00:42:44
uh the space suit and the and the capsule becomes a like you suggested
00:42:49
for that generation but also uh uh when you use you see people like a dedicated to
00:42:56
new market some of those with the cost of black africa or all these uh the nation
00:43:03
we there of a of people in india but you
00:43:06
can also think about day a significance of the informal city
00:43:11
that we now i think also that was invented the other they uh but people now teaching uh appear to
00:43:16
a a lack of three though really morgan other people
00:43:20
but when you look historically utilise that already in the sixties
00:43:23
uh like this are uh any and the seventy second maybe study material
00:43:28
the tactical of uh make you go and so many other uh magazines including a d.
00:43:34
these are enormous at indian already uh to the question of the informal i'm a c. d.
00:43:41
and uh they probably know so where is it quite
00:43:44
big of the space seats or the form there's a nice
00:43:49
architecture us classically defined you can say is one i could fix racial 'cause we can indeterminate
00:43:56
and it is in the seat we see on the basis of paint was forced to examine is on uh protocols
00:44:02
why some problems of radical practised
00:44:04
celebrated architectures integration is larger cultural maybe
00:44:09
and it's like a coach um you could be any anything for on a political to
00:44:13
port fraught with parameter or even it was a crime is also very important to them
00:44:18
but that we now i think also that we were a shipper generation thinking about equality but
00:44:23
you really have to go work uh uh to the sixties on to the little moccasins of these
00:44:28
for you to the and and not only that a light don't want to rely
00:44:32
significance that they had for uh uh that generation in fact we should the last time
00:44:37
uh we have to meet what go but the research because the this was the last time in with this uh thing
00:44:43
uh it was taking a yes you usually with the prices
00:44:47
of the biggest prices of of the seventies it at that
00:44:50
and then we don't have any more uh gas prices right on with him for a
00:44:54
while and and and we entirely forgot a whole research the world down and in architects from
00:45:01
anyway it was so um it 'cause you and
00:45:05
then uh became a a big goal for a uh
00:45:11
for uh uh don't for so either they very active uh uh in this way it can't
00:45:17
kind too in case the amount or they say they only the it's the quality of data
00:45:22
oh yeah another set of the school repeated into them
00:45:25
so trained to find a a what was uh basically the
00:45:30
autonomy of architecture trying to understand what the the steeply
00:45:33
into worse outside of all these uh question people like um
00:45:38
uh you don't pay the pot cooper junior on it it i would belong to these uh
00:45:43
to this category in any case uh uh here is uh you know the
00:45:48
the look and the nice where i'd be up to put union uh for example
00:45:54
um it occasionally came they they call for uh the subversive axioms
00:46:00
harding conference provided radical upheavals in academia institutions or attractive
00:46:05
these units of the between were generated to progress to
00:46:08
put up what you've got you need yet these it i would see oh but it it's an active agent interpreters
00:46:14
with which he was concerned for a remote sort of uh that that's completing recollection
00:46:20
got a couple of woody allen's uh compare you have to be
00:46:23
very skate that renders request can be institutions of it agrees young girl
00:46:28
architectural disciplinary or something else i need to be
00:46:31
stark architecture permission to soccer political and economical ah processes
00:46:37
yeah it is a and again is war while so he's had
00:46:40
a picture of magnetic go in nineteen fifty nine indicating on or ideology
00:46:46
uh here if the students of the architecture of of the if you want in on them complaining i mean
00:46:51
you would have thought that can be with the people that they have a pity not a a at that point
00:46:57
i think people like rubber it like a head be there is me so and i get people like the whole i'd young group like the
00:47:04
the good that they will be you know of these kind of the liberties in the way that now we are you know all these the liberties
00:47:10
hitting the great uh in the public schools of architecture but in fact the the students from the very beginning the work pretty
00:47:16
good so it really is to then uh a group have a little marketing and they were always good the only one that is
00:47:23
say from all these good is more is there to write but everybody else's of corporate right so you see
00:47:29
yeah making fun of far we can go to a here but they
00:47:32
uh uh practically all of them i mean uh uh the the site
00:47:37
the a a a a a or fire are the way that the hearing with use
00:47:43
elephant providing at the a this is a really cool party member crispy you up i
00:47:50
the thing i don't know how can i be picture association nineteen seventy nineteen seventy two
00:47:55
s. full of boston said that some rubber or maybe by way handing out of the bar
00:48:00
first to your right and we'll give you one downs opens
00:48:04
your plans if you won instructors opal or h. b. a. c.
00:48:09
well the three thousand nine so this is what the maturity of
00:48:14
the schools uh so the only place that you could just feel a
00:48:18
lamb yeah the architects uh uh uh for phase you're in kind
00:48:22
of a a conventional uh we uh it was a work with them
00:48:28
that i'm not like that but that would see many times uh um i
00:48:32
ask about these these ten is of course uh um uh uh that uh
00:48:37
then i from practical architectural term but that was fine by their manager line
00:48:41
for the there there's a a product enough i mean ideally of italian groups
00:48:46
individuals and partly case yawns rains in time for
00:48:49
nineteen sixty three to nineteen seventy one and within
00:48:53
ah it's supposed to deal uh on this so with will uh is it oh yeah but you
00:49:00
have to put it to deal a lot with another non stop see the uh it it and um
00:49:09
and a and here you have a a a global
00:49:13
uh toots uh on one but he's already gotten ah
00:49:19
so all we're saying really with this them is that there is a powerless to betsy
00:49:23
on in academics or so is this term that uh that that's a line invented of radical
00:49:28
i think so up acted like a kind of umbrella either at this and they see the the
00:49:33
easily for this group of radical i critics need everybody like let's see well all on the little groups
00:49:40
uh and that was fun yep onto a land and to uh to
00:49:44
that in america well we're trying to say is that these are a little
00:49:48
servers and in a book isn't that we need to pay attention because
00:49:52
it seems to me like into a thoughtful to my students that would
00:49:56
that the method that we're using for the page cannot be candidate
00:49:59
because they need to look but not the to move a four
00:50:04
at least yeah is that at the uh in the uh what's he doing yeah well this is the fully of
00:50:11
course there was a against uh uh uh uh uh uh
00:50:15
the radicals the course of the focus not practical uh enough
00:50:20
uh yeah and in fact i thought that that i the other radicalism awards in
00:50:24
uh if you were signed up for example the architects of the basically
00:50:29
but connected to the radicals as i was saying before was also
00:50:32
perfume of education with the for it doesn't seem to uh talk about
00:50:38
it doesn't seem to to consider
00:50:41
ah and perhaps even even if the content of external peace um uh what
00:50:45
radical and uh that may pose that keyboard using whatnot cover the kind of them
00:50:50
but these are they who made out with the an oxymoron ah some of
00:50:54
my students uh uh it was kinda in a at the same you know
00:50:59
if radical means uh going back to the audience to change uh this is
00:51:03
good stuff but that would be um to back to or used to change
00:51:07
this is the what i would imply sexiest and then try to compare that with the seems like an oxymoron about have this is
00:51:14
tool for radical product is is you need a system in order
00:51:17
to undermine another system try to compare that with the in other words
00:51:21
maybe a sort of transitional phase you cannot be radical for a long time
00:51:25
to come up with any space in a way that's what i'm trying to say
00:51:28
that these are system is the bed up to undermine an existing system but it really didn't use it initiated to turn allies
00:51:35
and no longer run the company will have to be undermined by another radical directories
00:51:40
in the same way that avery island are inevitably become someone remain unused to be channels by another one
00:51:46
so it's important to remember them that are occurring guards are always
00:51:51
a systematic even before the arabs or by the institutions of the market
00:51:56
or the computer with g. indices is not an option on it is that the
00:52:00
phase when users being easy to use to undermine and all seems in but doesn't
00:52:05
i mean not all that we would be radical for ever you be ready
00:52:09
go for a while and then you will not be radical anymore innovative right
00:52:14
so ah from a formal ah i'm meetings like uh those so far in warm
00:52:21
in nineteen fifty five one of the first is good that we study uh two conferences
00:52:27
ah the we're speaking you but here we are in princeton with people like with the
00:52:32
iceman and um my of others on and ah from candles on it was with the
00:52:38
that gave peter and my wonderful innocence somewhere around here it's not or
00:52:44
is that the ah with all the other nice apple event and this
00:52:48
is the on off a lot of we who uh you'd be good
00:52:52
i've been uh on tony builder so uh to conference's than uh
00:52:58
to the no parties like this uh are the you know part b.
00:53:01
of the group of they needed to the point that they are under
00:53:04
bunny thirtieth uh in new york and you can see all these people
00:53:08
uh if you have like a bigger i the man and we are not very fun ah
00:53:12
uh can i found them on my on the phone out and tony blair said
00:53:16
anything but uh the main plot that one is the of the in easy to
00:53:22
to uh you can say the big parties uh i embark arrays so
00:53:26
oh to meet these meetings in the grass with bucky
00:53:29
fuller for example i had one day or in the beads
00:53:33
i seen again uh about price or where the
00:53:36
students and the teachers becoming a way uh the architecture
00:53:40
sure very sam takes a very architects or a a quality that needs to be a study
00:53:48
so what are they uh uh uh the we're probably going kind of that
00:53:55
what are they the case study that the students uh uh looking to
00:54:01
we have ah ah well one of the important things so one of the first things that we
00:54:05
used for you would be looking to was precisely jack around here yeah crown fear uh uh uh
00:54:13
you probably have read this book uh the around the school a martyr now
00:54:19
it's a fictional story of this jacket though that discovers that he can't eat what gets
00:54:24
and no and in the with this is the first thing that we've even be set
00:54:28
in the set similar is very important to me no this is pretty nice to always start with something of which i know nothing
00:54:34
about that for example by now why no asked me to does anybody know like for example that you make
00:54:40
a marketing know already got that would be the place of the the place of the we're all in the same
00:54:45
uh a little bit so uh uh da da no way is uh
00:54:50
is to um get everybody to uh respond to the material
00:54:55
in the same turns other than somebody taking or something to be
00:55:00
uh seemed to eliminate the idea all final for the the already
00:55:04
in control of the material i myself become bit ignorant a schoolmaster
00:55:12
and ah these are the some experiments very quickly it
00:55:16
that we uh study in pain and going back to the
00:55:20
uh to the beginning oh uh or to the elderly elderly ideas
00:55:25
the first one that we uh that will look and into is a black one time uh i call it
00:55:31
uh which is of course or a very famous just define honey
00:55:35
albert uh uh i thought they are oh john k. to market going gone bucky fuller
00:55:40
claiming remember rubber mother word billion it going with that and this is not
00:55:45
a problem that had been a study very much from the point of view part
00:55:47
addiction but it's definitely worth a look at uh but the fuller which was
00:55:52
a very important percent there as well i think means that we're also visitors gaze
00:55:57
with nothing a putting them and yet is the other long ah in black
00:56:02
mountain a quality somebody's button for the uh understood in mounting uh this thing
00:56:09
yeah he knew how far um a bucket wither up that one day
00:56:15
ah the united states and yeah it is it still is and
00:56:19
again uh you have within them without the thought never have one day
00:56:23
because ah you know way yeah yeah this is also part of the
00:56:28
evolutionary thing about bucky fuller just you would be teaching
00:56:31
uh like apart side cutesy dispersed typical kind of uh
00:56:36
a four seasons that you're taking existing schools of architecture like the thumb
00:56:40
and work the wheel yeah it be there for a few weeks m.
00:56:43
b. that on on something else will happen after more so so very much
00:56:48
you for the uh that all of this form a network of uh
00:56:52
well for schools involving a many many thousands of these two years of working on one project
00:56:58
and he also believe very much in the a. v. oh well recording uh
00:57:03
the so the idea of media is very much part of it was it
00:57:08
uh this is of course another problem that we know grad with this this will own ah i
00:57:14
it before but the the project of mark's really from nineteen fifty two
00:57:18
i need to raise another used to which is the question of the building itself i could it's racers as a form of uh
00:57:23
of that with the uh you know the the the with a built by the uh
00:57:28
uh uh by the by this the the the one with uh uh not the
00:57:36
and of course introduce the question of this
00:57:38
sign ah so we took the elevator a society
00:57:43
many people visited warming printers and re use
00:57:47
the he um another with part of one method
00:57:51
another problem that we look into what that texas a rangers of
00:57:54
the nineteen uh fifty switching to the people like young radio can
00:57:58
uh uh well this last key according show it yeah
00:58:03
you know are actually quite intro with but now of course in texas in nineteen
00:58:09
a fifty five even a part of it it it will explore in
00:58:12
the this to bring out the enemy these kinds of the schools that
00:58:15
i say uh other mormon of a density on instead of radical i
00:58:19
smell to reply to find the autonomy of the the basically the beep
00:58:23
they don't want to know anything outside uh these deeply impressed i know
00:58:28
and it's very important to understand how cooper union that big also eh i don't
00:58:33
play the game from there and this will be bought ah p. if it though
00:58:38
another school about what i say you know what of a place for me to tell you any things those are some of the
00:58:44
uh faculty they ever so groove up whether your me y'all uh
00:58:50
and some of the file name is thin but but id so
00:58:54
with your very away from india uh with so i won't spend any time
00:58:59
yeah this is the problem facing within my first bill of nineteen sixty seven the ball's in but by so
00:59:05
very important to understand that this is all happening again asked with powers and with many of the little ones
00:59:11
well the transformation of the radical perform a science in him but that
00:59:14
wasn't happening the context of a political upheaval and i mean uh mexico
00:59:23
disqualified picture in medical so it's important to understand that it's not just uh but but i so lonely that's no
00:59:30
next you know an inmate people you can also think about four hours
00:59:33
well one of our case uh it's probably probably part of it so
00:59:37
and we're one is more intel powder this of course would be really
00:59:41
know villanova r. t. there's it's it's also a great okay so they are
00:59:46
about nine and transform that kelly they probably put them
00:59:51
you think about the last when there are enough anything yeah what people like uh
00:59:55
like rossi ah and basic being a it is key
00:59:59
many of the italians were uh in argentina at that time
01:00:03
things to look more i'm not twenty nine forty six something that you're taught that
01:00:07
of nineteen seventy and seventy a five this is not a lot of well
01:00:13
uh the they yeah but uh we know how much more time for the
01:00:17
i think when look also to uh then you just go round on a lot of
01:00:22
into it gaining from a less data uh they are they are in as big as a
01:00:27
and they are they are very studious uh and became very goofy in basically the in as big as
01:00:35
uh the institute for her number one ah studies this is the the team you know
01:00:41
that the the the iceman is very obsessed with soccer and so it be thought everybody
01:00:45
round me to the the part of the with a a soccer uh thing
01:00:52
and this is a typical ah review uh oh okay i'll be easy to
01:00:59
a not only a a was a um at the institute
01:01:04
in the united states in thinking about that that would be but
01:01:07
also a dimension of modern art in collaboration with uh uh the institute
01:01:13
uh oh nice these uh components called didn't have to pass in nineteen seventy two
01:01:18
we stay interested released a focal experimentally neighbours the dedicated to the problems of environmental
01:01:24
design so very current again on the people including discomfort you're not going to believe it
01:01:29
every leper miserable for one another another more important member
01:01:33
topical finer r. and b. and and then the local ones
01:01:37
peter i remember something about it but you can see for example here of
01:01:41
a political on our yeah yeah yeah but here to look at the uh
01:01:45
at the at this book uh that was within the public so you never think that'd be
01:01:50
a very very interesting also very interdisciplinary all these people probably also
01:01:56
be thinking about what is that it's not like i think so
01:01:58
going to a yeah b. indicates that we haven't done
01:02:02
anything of that magnitude in a long long um time
01:02:08
uh i it's awful interesting to look at things that we're having here
01:02:13
in x. it with the group that believer better lay and going to work
01:02:16
uh eh just a big but it started
01:02:19
uh again very theoretically yeah oriented is buying perfume
01:02:23
to look at the lethal for if you're that they marked out of this program people like drawing
01:02:28
a violence uh leave it in watching with that part of the uh
01:02:32
if at that so and the books that came out of that is good
01:02:37
did they end of history and theory also was very important to look at the group of uh of top forty
01:02:44
which is at the institute of architects or a a history may
01:02:48
need which is not a fully only but the for each you see
01:02:51
mark to market cherry francisco or margaret mead gaily is your face or pound gorilla
01:02:56
and so many uh well uh somewhat what is relevant is that you will get
01:03:01
a degree in architecture and markets of architecture without ever having that up with it
01:03:06
people do yes custodian theory and these issues i in nineteen uh sixty when it's
01:03:13
when they start to make the sixty five or something like that if it's completely crazy
01:03:17
right is computed radical it's not happening anymore business but that would be that would be not
01:03:22
to be true you would not want to plan to do something like the and write about it
01:03:28
global our tools uh i kind of nomadic if pull it that started in florence in in
01:03:35
nineteen seventy three and people like uh arcade to on nine nine nine nine to paris to your
01:03:41
with full yeah it's it or and that again uh it was normally we
01:03:46
move uh from place to place some for for what was happening in different places
01:03:51
you can think about the institute of uh uh the now
01:03:54
they do well with the the internet's in a laboratory for architecture
01:03:59
and the one uh is that it's it would be no but then coupled apollo ideas to run for five or so
01:04:05
they i think uh in nineteen eighty but a lot of people
01:04:09
were uh uh they have before me you like going to be ideas
01:04:12
they were they were constructed of different schools of architecture and we've got there for two months normally in the summer
01:04:19
it was nominated in terms of the team by team tame people like for example
01:04:23
peterson it's on and and and uh and so on used to come quite a bit
01:04:30
the body on which again is another uh and nomadic disqualify say before organised by peter worry
01:04:37
what's on it off e. d. in connection with a in and around and pay the price
01:04:43
and uh the idea was a a two per more flexible forms of uh of learning
01:04:48
which require according to say the price more while flexible and temporary infrastructure so again these are
01:04:54
it would belong the collection of all these experiments but rejected
01:04:58
the idea of ethics building in the fix institution and they
01:05:01
seem to require the small you see in other uh it
01:05:05
to open a so the bus is double the car uh buyers
01:05:09
uh eh when between a school to pick us between it's cool and reported
01:05:14
on broadcast it uh uh the material in the next uh is that is that
01:05:20
in terms of technology i have already mentioned this but it's very
01:05:22
important to remember that that that computer finished third in the nineties
01:05:26
yeah and columbia university we support paperless is to you
01:05:30
you have to go to the beginning of this experimentation particularly
01:05:34
it might be the architecture machine group of another one thing in nineteen sixty seven
01:05:40
which makes architecture engine you up on computers
01:05:45
and it is it is part of the what we look like yeah a computer with the size of a vulnerable
01:05:52
but even less known if uh uh people know about they in mighty
01:05:57
very few people not that far off of a laboratory for computer graphics
01:06:01
and especially l. analysis supported by are you down from the for a foundation nice even before in
01:06:07
my the architecture messing that we're talking about nineteen
01:06:10
sixty five right and they had been experimented with computers
01:06:15
and with a on martin yeah our math is on ah
01:06:19
the thought about a group that one of my students to study
01:06:22
build a detailed has been important to also remember how i have probably save it probably too many
01:06:29
times but the but the phenomena is the one that we have not talking any more about that
01:06:34
a western experiments that these europa or uh the united states
01:06:39
uh you can think about the easy to of uh of design
01:06:44
you want about that i already mentioned were the teams were uh otherwise source
01:06:48
and they just have a sign i mean all the acting with people from that we'll be
01:06:52
that it will the participating and and the the uh uh worth uh in fact between ball
01:06:59
or this uh uh people in india in the the people want or uh designs that were uh
01:07:06
uh that were of the saying a part of the of the lot of a lot of what kind of uh
01:07:11
uh uh more than uh for the for the the very interesting to see it
01:07:17
into it than the school and this with the the mares it's our who insist on
01:07:23
uh somebody calling this school that emerged from the ruins or or what
01:07:30
eh another oh you were so friday or tool and the light
01:07:34
uh a way destruct us enough to about nineteen uh sixty nine
01:07:40
very interesting for me with the discovery of these uh program a bit berkeley painter
01:07:46
for independent living of nineteen seventy two at that point berkeley was considered
01:07:51
like leap capital of america you know how uh_huh clipper studies at now
01:07:55
very much uh uh in vogue and and a lot of people are paying a lot of attention it seems to me
01:08:01
that there were a lot of a on x. number of uh of people of disabled people know what living in berkeley
01:08:07
uh an approval for students to but with five would be expected this uh uh
01:08:12
this is the the will for accessibility okay i'm painting
01:08:17
to be in a study of the compose everybody nice deep what i think
01:08:20
is the the guy doing is thirty to make a decompose accessible and collaborative
01:08:26
so again when do you think that the per study scrapping uh uh i just i think i think we need to the
01:08:32
remember that in seventy to it but it was a very active
01:08:35
group what experimented with doing a a very uh important uh more
01:08:42
in the screen i'm going to put at least that is like the great it's nothing
01:08:47
of all the people that have wanted it to be without a lot of have done uh
01:08:53
very uh a detailed analysis that i have no way to percent gains that's sort of fine of each
01:08:58
one of these uh cases is very important to me also to the degree that this group is already
01:09:04
mm much smaller than the real group because something has
01:09:07
happened very similar to what happened with the past downfall
01:09:11
you are on the wall on other people come out but being you know
01:09:14
about being to the people might well no idea nobody to do the the one
01:09:18
somebody told me into this old he wrote this part about the only in your novel
01:09:22
that i get up i don't know i didn't know anything about that i heard of that
01:09:25
so i did what on the wall other people unmarked that are doing is today so i can do without is sort of different things
01:09:31
so now we are interested in building up reform with different people from different parts of the work and uh
01:09:38
uh connect they are uh the research uh uh to this project
01:09:43
so in conclusion without typical sore wipers prime these kind of diverse
01:09:49
experiment often upon one of the followings ends all day while i'm gone
01:09:54
oh uh all all the solution assimilation into generic mainstream
01:09:59
integration or termination due to you know we're all political constraints
01:10:03
many could predicate but that would you place on our which is typical of the
01:10:07
among our leading from practicality to come internally the front to back down to institutionally facing
01:10:13
and yet much of the base out there of the d. c. princess
01:10:16
train came from this experiment effected the institution but for all of them up
01:10:22
and they they live they are kind of dormant like a kind of a a a dorm i'm biased
01:10:27
a kind of waiting to be awake grew yeah we can buy the next
01:10:32
uh generation which i think uh use uh ease you i just it'll happen
01:10:37
architecture banality in maybe you have become is stay in school just
01:10:41
being or we have to be something happening but really not something
01:10:45
much is is going on student when wait for sense so far
01:10:49
active disengagement without rapidly a boarding war but rather wait before you hopkins
01:10:55
teachers likewise worry too much about their place in the good enough
01:10:58
parakeet whether they're getting paid your remote thing and if it didn't
01:11:01
particular structure have partly chains indeed can pick a despite the mute reformation topic in place
01:11:08
with a lot of nobody takes your new technologies and information uh carter
01:11:13
i just would appear to be yeah increasingly if a bring a professional efficiently seem to
01:11:19
uh drawn in surfing pores were critique oversize
01:11:22
appropriating any possibility for the marketing of experimental practically
01:11:27
like this is a not so for for us it's figure is always under under rated
01:11:31
failure is very important everybody in science uh not a failure is important if you don't
01:11:37
there's something to fade or you don't know where you stand so it's very important to to explain
01:11:43
so in response to the need be all the school this probably the article but that would be a project
01:11:49
returns a tutor it'll get your experiments of the sixties and
01:11:52
seventies but not the blockbuster you've gotta study but also to remind
01:11:57
ours what ground campaign when put out with the takes read this in that sense uh probably too but also
01:12:04
a call to arms to think about what are the real issues of our time
01:12:09
what are the new technologies that are affecting what light on to start with thinking
01:12:14
would use architectural it up will be able to do now right okay thank you
01:12:30
the
01:12:32
you can lay in my case probably yeah yeah but in my keys it
01:12:38
the case of office opens the channels in the people also want me travel
01:12:45
it through our thing and make sure you
01:12:52
but why did he should you work in the uh uh a good yeah it takes years
01:13:11
yeah yeah
01:13:20
yeah
01:13:25
uh_huh uh_huh
01:13:30
oh yes
01:13:34
yes
01:13:43
yes absolutely well yeah i mean you know uh maybe in spring when but of course
01:13:50
you know nothing would have happened in the in paris for example the the i. d. m.
01:13:55
uh going to the u. p. seeks an uh all the
01:14:00
settings isn't looking somebody was that the board of the tunes
01:14:03
in in in part is that led to the transformation in the
01:14:07
beginning the inability because of the board of the students in mexico
01:14:12
the the late to the uh to the uh to the new system
01:14:17
of it agrees and the what the troublesome button on my water ball scene in in all these places
01:14:22
and even in places like they is very interesting to see that even when they have made
01:14:27
your fingers as i say before have huge because of the pointedly them was was very hot
01:14:33
you would think that the students if you want to they they will buttons claw monk uh make it too
01:14:36
so i'd know they'll proceed they were already pushed in there was nobody you nine don't be your nobody was um
01:14:43
it was a a celebrity he was very interesting we were doing that either minus things to
01:14:47
see how many emeritus precisely in the context of the you know how many would somebody still
01:14:54
so he was the remove him from from from below or in most
01:14:58
uh okay sees even when you think about more institutional thing stacked whom
01:15:04
of course cannot think about one without thinking about the uh there's two is just
01:15:08
too there's been the uh uh the built in the students made i made this goodman
01:15:14
is very curious to see how in some cases this school is more of a
01:15:20
i kind of know to university and then you know that right from for example many times i think
01:15:25
to myself what probably not the e. for some integrated market is to turn out of the way you know
01:15:31
because it's not is somebody with the same thing exactly the
01:15:34
same amount of uh say celebrities in architecture didn't come out of
01:15:38
places like all of our local um you know a princeton university which are considered very good this good so what's happening but
01:15:45
crazy place industries easier with that's got cooper was a
01:15:48
new puppies open so frightened vocal oh for theses like
01:15:53
yeah i'm a and there was this the complete the uh
01:15:58
you know wait how also of different people be doing a different uh things
01:16:03
but he he was conducive one on the other hand as we were discussing those night will campaign
01:16:08
with the greatest pull of a well stocked would be in being how come these now i
01:16:13
mean from they in a moment i'm without thinking about it and i can give you ten
01:16:19
top names of people that went to the in a in a very prone to have the program what governor
01:16:24
to that a lot of it you know all you know you can see all these these meet weekly right
01:16:28
member trouble uh kind of it up or you can say all these people might
01:16:32
but you can use a stingy with a full you know you can't and you see
01:16:36
one i can you not right so easy even when you
01:16:41
have minor anonymously maybe that was a girl program you have
01:16:45
in colour so one maybe mister this upstairs for for school
01:16:49
so i entirely agree with you asked us close to this unit
01:16:54
that means that the school is not the faculties colour the student we have yet to you know
01:16:59
i define easy and you're already like on on our part time and and
01:17:03
it would i think i could do to one another body to to see what
01:17:07
just visiting another one talking to being already knew how to do everything down and
01:17:15
so i am and complete agreement in agreement with you it's true that that that maybe when i when
01:17:21
i presented because you go like okay the school of mark speed about max me like after yeah the net
01:17:28
because you couldn't expanding anymore by then you will see wasn't all
01:17:31
the programs with for problems with mother nah i'll just do it
01:17:36
mister you have happy were my car language asking which you don't know what it is yeah
01:17:41
they uh i mean it's not like you know not familiar architect or anything but maybe post
01:17:47
for all these people to to axes
01:17:52
i think something interesting
01:18:04
is that
01:18:07
about cost yeah we did i i know the boss is a very important um reference particularly
01:18:13
yeah and when you look at a at a at a let
01:18:17
the american book for example and see the the steeple brain fine wine
01:18:22
who came from the bow our son yeah and kind of brought about how to t. v. but is a company we've rambo what
01:18:27
is very interesting but we were focusing the size and the board
01:18:31
will uh the uh we there's depiction of like modern colours that stars
01:18:36
before uh the work they are there's there are are poured workplaces and the
01:18:41
reason is that a lot more spies have time on the yeah we are um
01:18:46
a school so there have been exhibitions of more montana like to get some more
01:18:50
more not yesterday someone on the ball park with one house all the time of file
01:18:54
philip johnson no uh on the ball hardly have been booting up being but nobody
01:18:59
seems to have ah it study or these
01:19:02
yeah ah yeah these experiments in great detail
01:19:07
i mean there is the bulk of cooper doing on that page look inside the the and it was an exhibition of more more in the
01:19:14
seventies but that's more like the school it's uh not using a kind
01:19:18
of an exhibition of what they are doing not critical beauty it on what
01:19:22
i'm happy and give me nobody could view on the global phenomena
01:19:27
how can benefit from more men in the study endpoints had imprecise v.
01:19:32
with a few untroubled lose or these kind of probably pretty easy on
01:19:36
of our office payment in different parts of the two
01:20:10
it is not now or what do you mean
01:20:14
now for me seems i've never history but history not only you know i
01:20:19
always say that you look up on the price with the eyes of the
01:20:22
of the press and so the only reason i'm interested nine looking and uh uh
01:20:27
yeah with the it's the same reason i had when i start looking at the the the magazines of the sixties and seventies
01:20:33
were how the interesting modesty long was i'm
01:20:37
starting to wonder about how i have time
01:20:41
it that in the in the face so funny all kind of fun um
01:20:45
when we were there for missing in the means of communication within that need them
01:20:50
the beauty of doing things much quicker and cheaper there was not a and something else
01:20:56
and martin so against the story companies operable case you know what are you doing now
01:21:16
yes
01:21:22
yes
01:21:34
uh_huh uh_huh
01:21:37
right
01:21:43
uh_huh
01:21:45
uh_huh
01:21:49
yeah
01:21:51
uh_huh
01:21:58
if
01:22:08
uh it's very interesting question that's easy p. there's a delay energy
01:22:13
you know you may be interested to know that in i just using
01:22:17
these late phenomenon any was preceded by a lot of the base about why
01:22:21
the when you people and some of the market it it was not
01:22:23
on this to you that b. is the worst myth sorry narcotics weren't euro
01:22:28
basically was uh that's what is it true i mean in buffalo no ice i saw it first
01:22:35
the is these i mean the first the is the problem is that in the seventies as what
01:22:40
i mean i yeah yeah
01:22:44
no on or a is that the other sane so they same lake they said no no i'm not
01:22:52
there are seventy definitely because i i late seventies
01:22:55
i remember can't yes if any is this interface united
01:22:59
when i have the united states i have already done the course work for my p. l. team but i don't know
01:23:04
but people like my own profile morning or a message um well it's work
01:23:08
teaching the course it when i have a problem that the uh university as a visiting scholar at allies that
01:23:13
not only did i have a lot of the beauty that people what eating for time and then you're right
01:23:19
and the have appears the in fact i was orifice i find myself still working on my p. h. d. and how far higher
01:23:25
by columbia first them by putting some after before i finish the p. s. p. and all but you know he's young
01:23:32
with the need to be is yes we were to see people like may macleod people like michael hayes people like myself like
01:23:38
but we we we were all ah we worked eighteen so is that you know isn't that was brought in a median but
01:23:44
going back to the base about why would that be is the next sorry in a distant there was a lot of uh
01:23:50
discuss the on about why is the ends of architecture uh do you have any use for history theory class
01:23:57
they were boring they thought they were trying to avoid them if it that it
01:24:02
in the world of simple stupid people x. even holiness and a number of people work participating
01:24:08
they they talk about the eating of uh the architects of these thirty and this to the architect
01:24:15
and you was precisely to have the tears of architecture morning gauge
01:24:19
ah in history and theory and debussy parents waste families because he was
01:24:24
taught at the art historians work where a waste of time into it or
01:24:28
and that uh are simply putting no matter what the
01:24:32
error with intense years are they will go back to the
01:24:35
two panels keyword at the first this nice i think the top top
01:24:41
top someone just only insofar as i do that as the money at all
01:24:45
yeah we will back to morphine employed ascii and uh at the says
01:24:49
this nice at the faces need of a historic uh uh the usually what
01:24:54
topic you couldn't you couldn't go there you couldn't hire any of these people
01:24:57
interact so it really brought squares families to it would be that organisational architects
01:25:04
that we're also interested in us policy the with its architects of these things so that they will
01:25:10
i did anything it is and that the that was your yeah idea so you know it's like a sort of face
01:25:18
um but of course the have changed a vatican reasons
01:25:21
than uh and and and the teaching of history and theory
01:25:25
in fact this is very popular in the united states now on it and the number of
01:25:31
same yeah so the lack of same as always the kind of the one of content and clean
01:25:36
uh uh beams an an a student with the student demanding more and better classes
01:25:42
or the time so and more popular schools are the ones that are longer and some of them
01:25:50
right beside it it would be nice to you this it's it's e. e. c.
01:26:00
question
01:26:01
now do we use e. that says i just uh
01:26:09
ah e. room wall
01:26:14
yes yes i agree and i think in in spain just sane i mean not i mean i just days nobody in their
01:26:20
right mind things that architectural have obviously in spain if you
01:26:24
are a speech in the school of architecture and you're an architect
01:26:27
you have to have a p. h. d. which is called using the sender something doesn't make any sense
01:26:31
at all right but it's part of i mean i think it's the d. c. stands a and isaac
01:26:38
following a workable but someone that is how many p. is these you ah that's it
01:26:44
but at the same time one thing that uh that uh
01:26:47
that i that you get the same but i think that's important
01:26:51
in the production of knowledge the production of money that's what i mean you have the eating with these
01:26:56
not to read would be paid what we already know how did the university's supposed to be made of people
01:27:01
but are constantly right thinking that i personally producing new no it it's as though what is on this earth
01:27:08
the things enough i can certainly there's these are these and investigating daisies
01:27:13
the stuff that's not worth the eighteen in in physics in in in in science is that are you know but isn't full of
01:27:20
modern prices but people have been up for that's what they're supposed to be doing what they do on the side is that it's it
01:27:27
these are more than it is that that that that county and innocent
01:27:31
these these are asking the same towns you are supposed to be um
01:27:36
i i think that in it so or or you know or or some by these thirteen i haven't product
01:27:43
uh involved with you as well in the same way that you that
01:27:47
people in the sciences or or students in a class i think it's definitely
01:27:52
appropriate that you being the p. h. d. students and lot of oratory also or
01:27:59
it's just for the uh uh the past tense didn't so the or the u. s.
01:28:05
so what i don't like is not will contact him you have to copy is the two piece design wise that is yeah
01:28:29
love was to it
01:28:32
uh_huh
01:28:37
yes
01:28:40
yeah
01:28:45
uh_huh yes
01:28:52
yeah
01:29:03
yes yes yes in which each each individual uh these the we do we analysis i see
01:29:10
uh eh what does camping what are the tools the forty to include
01:29:15
in the building the building itself is on this to the supreme court beating
01:29:19
they are these cases in which the building is is invalid
01:29:23
lists of the philosophy of the school and they are all the
01:29:27
cases like the global through also the body on with precisely
01:29:31
one one in the building or why isn't going to the beach
01:29:34
to do some words over a performer is part
01:29:38
of being a or the availability and i intended
01:29:49
yeah
01:29:58
yes
01:30:05
uh_huh
01:30:07
yes
01:30:12
yes
01:30:15
yeah right right
01:30:18
yes that's payments
01:30:22
yeah yeah that's definitely part of uh uh what uh
01:30:28
the east to a market it's another gonna study this uh
01:30:32
so this is part of what to put in an ounce or uh so this point though with you what now
01:30:37
uh uh in florence happen that in in in the case of friends i'm not sure how they got to
01:30:45
to the point but even to fully within the autonomy of ah architects and you know right
01:30:51
so these or this line which we also included in
01:30:55
the vatican uh um put up with these uh project right
01:31:00
mm underlies the mean in in different time so not not all of them can be on a licensing
01:31:06
the same way so this is our kind of up in the face
01:31:09
of for these lot affirmation singer we have met leading to be the steeply
01:31:14
which you could possibly design because they would actually this
01:31:18
is a very conservative move many people will win and
01:31:26
you know what

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