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uh the record that's not what they are and the more i you you know
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are you wanna play the uh um when you you you
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you can you we uh are you know it might look on and um
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or that you know i know it will be you know there are like you
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are there at the e. on it right now
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you know you and you are units that are like oh no no to it
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so i can see you know
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i'm very happy with him you know or or and you are in and out
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right um it's a big presented to her who who's a
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few at e. p. f. l. and around your neck faculty
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before um your introduction let me just so when
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we thank our partner for the evening you know
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you know stands for remote part one and even when you don't have to pick the one
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using or something similar for architects and unions under i'm very pleased to have
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sure of the organisation of for evident with graham each room back to our university
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uh you're failing darkly soon began re for architecture i
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mean things a strong relationship with uh repercussions important building true
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which is important obviously but it's not to move because
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when you're working in us in a research in education
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to introduce you are i will give a pronoun to use presidents is this on purpose if you can somehow them
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but i miss you well ahead that they don't click companies
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you uh_huh with one one you'll likely not doesn't that's to hua
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i'm gonna have new another clone conjuring allow companies to turn
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uh_huh and it's real was that you um news new pupils abandonment when
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you look at it and he still couldn't couldn't oh uh_huh yeah she's them
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i know the fuse your business owners who look up much more
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indians she's more memorable student one honest we'll go locals local to the
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happenings of one president can you do know filament was
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the unions actually take calls the d. v. g. t.
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she didn't know what we'll do design should movies
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or than would be cool uh_huh we see what happens
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sensors sued him going is um can as bad no you know who presumably the ones on
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the to do the most unpleasant you wouldn't you know that actually going to know some people
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let me know who's usually use a you know a form as you want and then you don't win a couple cool huh
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the music was like cool and no one agrees on do not
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bridge to do not gonna sleep on you don't you don't want it
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i used to produce lucas infirmity on every bit instrument do you in
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some some hoops early polluted who knows it's not actually look good no
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want young people must rule on what he does and you need them
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right now oh mm cousins sample someone engine is
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the window you'll see you know printed woman's and
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who's going to presume who who who was standard with a low would do
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that you join pop is a one of a new mouse though the consensus
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uh_huh bonus you you're a girl you'll still value you know talk about i
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don't know but the if you were you will gain just once it's one who
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resume which we will use your use of comparable you must remember or partners human community
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just the the sun could overlook problems w. wanna present tense moment compelled to do next
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messy room so your room i missed the first are better
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i have tried the room to find it very for your return
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income for use camille exam for at least two you're at least you're very busy ma'am
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um first you have her knocking picture parties
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or maybe zimbabwean bus them your build work include
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or an m. w. corporate confusing going back or do you look back on our computing bangalore
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our room computer probably preparing to to construction for your move into
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the pool and an extension to the prince of world news you remember
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you are currently working on social housing project for anything but my roots in amber
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be so user would be to propose you you know
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i am i am but you're also working on a number to
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be doing for dinner parties can who's who's into your your inbound
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you are also very busy in education you
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teach underground youth group design up howard university
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were you our professor of urban design in the chair will be problem or urban planning design
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and you write on architecture one and bring them one of your most most recent books or
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the school architect you you need you know since nineteen ninety which was a huge last year
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and finally you are important news um juries in committees
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you still remember morgan freeman going school or
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economic cities and in indian institute for human sentiment
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you remember or for the steering committee repressed you'd use that i can work for architecture
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and i will come to make the president for awhile or return everywhere and
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you're a member of the group and your your instant one theme work competition
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speaking of which okay through or hosting this german you for your from expert to graham
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in the reclining simply with the lecture bar you are going to be do france's clearer
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you're all invited uh you are just to register or you can go from
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our website work and okay them but you know that's huge use for next week
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but tonight we're your commitment per customer per shoe remote root sensibility and
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a stronger warmer on the major challenges or you know you take to conclude
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whose regarding the quality of construction and the rumour architects rooms losing sincerity
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n. b. snow to new in your you would come true indium but uh also into work up now
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so i'm very interested we're we're we're interested to find
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out for and and somehow you address or these christians
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with your engine parts are and we look forward to be coming to you
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roman road for expressing our thanks
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thank you thank you for those very very kind words ah i think you made me sound busier than i am
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and so i think it's i'm gonna be in trouble with my wife because she's always saying i'm very busy in
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more so now so while i thank you know i'm going to have to talk about this later
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ah but this is a real pleasure to be here uh it's an on no
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to start with to be even addressing an audience like this and i'm
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really grateful to the institute and to serve for having taken the job
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for me it's also uh i was sharing with some friends uh
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really emotional moment to do this lecture here it was on ah
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when i left in there for the first time i was eighteen years old or through once more that eighteen years old
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the first place i went outside india and i landed wasn't us
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on a so my first gems of the outside world was looks on
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and i went and worked uh office seven months or six months
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of from november to march or april insured they'll send the needs
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and i worked with an architect call eloise bush who'll surprise me back coming here and i've lost
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contact with him for thirty three years so it's a real pleasure and incredibly emotional to make that connection
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uh it was also the first time that i saw so much snow uh when i arrived here
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and it was really it was a very important experience because when as a young person you walk the country
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for the first time you don't know what the french and you live in a place where everyone speaks french
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the only person who spoke english was the schoolteacher insured else and the nice so i had to phone
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him every time i was desperate for translation uh and but it was an amazing experience because it taught me
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many things which i carried away it taught me the kind of rebuff that you
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bring in switzerland to construction without factor sizing things too much is the practicality and pragmatism
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you don't me about democracy and openness to the way ah can't on than communes or organise night
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spend many hundred slides taking photographs of the profile of buildings
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but i put up on construction sites and was very very fascinated by that and of course
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one carries at a young age those impressions in very profound ways i want to thank you all
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for that moment in my life which was very very important to the
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i'm going to transport you to look completely different part of the world
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uh india uh and my daughter just title looking in one by
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really is ah about sharing with you ah want affected place might
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have in the way you think is an architect and you approach building
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uh and i think that kind of look listen that comes from those experiences some of which are very intangible
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is what i'm going to try to capture to you have for you today through some observations
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but also through some projects because lance gets like the one in move by uh
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our um and working in a landscape like that is about negotiating a place where
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global slows which we're all experiencing around the world don't
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the reason remake landscapes as easily as what's happening in china
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what's happened over in the middle east but those global flows off forced to occupied fishes
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the landscape which starts creating the interesting hybrid condition
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and it starts creating very startling adjacency is uh in the built environment and and i think this it
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it's it's mark i think uh is is is is the is unique uh apart replace are like my
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but i think it's these it's it's offline intangible readings
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readings that one often manifest themselves in terms of material
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are i think are the ones that i have engaged it substantially
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uh and i think they had a big impact on the nature of the brackets and our approach out to building
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and so just for clarity in dividing the lecture into two parts the first part i'm going to share with you
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c. d.'s of issues that i think have helped us organise our own thoughts about building in india
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then the second half i'm gonna share with you six projects quite quickly in the first part i'm
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going to into specific projects so you get a sense of our what i'm i'm i'm referring to
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so the first one is research and advocacy or research as advocacy your research advocacy
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oh which has been very important for us and i think for the practised this
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happen quite accidentally receded research became an integral
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part of the practised in this happen because
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when i started working in one but i i responded to the fact that there was no clear position and articulation
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of questions in that city there wasn't very much on the history of the city so wanting a straight and this
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is not really a part of the black this these are all the books we've produced in the last twenty years
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on different aspects of the city of architecture but
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all that as a as an instrument to reflect
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how we might ourselves operate in a landscape like these in one lot of these was self initiated projects
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some of them are not even about scholarship there about advocacy because they became documents
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that became the basis for us to act on an
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issue on open conservation aunt policy matters in the city
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our exact role and so the fallout of this work was very interesting because
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it it it certainly opened up many directions because it not only made me see
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different ways that one can get into the built environment but also manifest and highlighted
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many issues with challenge to us and mean particular but i think that challenges us as a profession
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to also being changed and i think that is really the important aspect of
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this some of the demon spawn institutional structures which i'll show you in a second
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so it let us of course most and actually into documentation
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into looking at what the historical environment meant how it could be captured
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and i think with it with the with the vice of technology and the
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way it sort of taken over our profession completely i think just measuring touching
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feeling scaling buildings uh is very important and we ended up doing many many
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portfolios of measure drawings which led us into historic preservation by default or not
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trained as a preservation is but we began to do a lot of work with the starting presentation
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which was very very interesting because for me the obsession with history was not as important as
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running from it how you intervene in fabric in material in in material fabric how do you understand reading
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what happens in terms of life cycles of materials and so this is a palace in hyderabad which
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we've not converted into museum we used to it you know traditional techniques uh for example that one column
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in line plus still takes about three months to build because
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it's done in many ellison line has its own hardening time
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so it gives you a completely different sense of time to and rhythms
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uh and these different moments sometimes i think is what got appliances india
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because the old collide and exist together which is i think the fascinating thing
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and now it's become amusing on them exams family but it's a
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low cost museum has no air conditioning in unification it's very easily
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done but it's become oh so a public place in the city we also then got in more than a bigger project like this
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this the touch model where we actually wrote a management plan and
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this is the charge but actually that precinct is all of that
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uh which is all been parts that have been discovered indeed would uphold
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plan to manage this which was fascinating and that's a lecture in itself
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but it allowed us to in projects like this bring sensibilities about materials
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to intersect with questions of women design and planning and how do you
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perceive the management of a precinct like this and what is the river meat
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except trend one launch a great deal from this and like i said it's a whole lectures that we're going to it
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but we also then got into restoring areas which we did which
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i'll show you the second to make it a visitors centre some movement
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that that would be easier we did this about five years ago we even used
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a traditional techniques of using the channel to grind the line because
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the the the pace at which it's grounded gives you a completely different texture
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than putting line in a machine so again the sense of time but also discovering
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presence of these incredible grass that already exist in india without thirty sizing it
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but but trying to bring it to the four in projects like this up
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or trying to do these panels where the ability of craftsmen to operate out of an image
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i mean they rejected all the major drawings we didn't they said no we have a different technique
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to gauge what the scale is so one also sort of loans from that and this is how the centre was restored
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uh and now it's the visitor's centre we be resurrected traditional ways of doing it
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laying sizes and proportions of break segment sourcing all of that and and also led like that was the
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intersection of open design and planning we began to get involved
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with what resulted in the forest open conservation legislation and all of
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india this was the first time in nineteen ninety five that we
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hadn't legislation to protect the historic district of why and this was
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taking these ideas to another that's scale and because my training isn't open design
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i began to see that there's a complete low between planning open design
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historic preservation in architecture which i think is something that we as a
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profession and those of us in the academy have to address quite quickly
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because the side note nature of our disciplines is becoming very non for that
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uh and i think for me some of these experiences just died before the engagement would result
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opened up my mind to look at it in completely sort of different ways and so we began to get in ward then
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once the sort of area had been b. k. the historic precinct i saw nothing was happening on the ground so
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then as activists as advocacy plan as we began to getting gauge it on the ground and we began to take
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different areas of this historic district and come up with strategies well could involve people uh
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to restore them and how do you then as annette i i booked planner to that
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uh and so this was the first one and i want to the six of them but to show you this
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which we position doesn't our district and it wasn't an art district historically but it
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was interesting that because i wasn't to train preservation is and i was an open panels
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what all this compared to look at spacial possibilities for the future as opposed to preservation is we're
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trying to freeze a moment in time but colliding those two sensibilities you began to construct signal fig
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for all the content remote and so the question you can ask ourselves was what is the content me engine that can design a that
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can drive the process of preservation as opposed to finding the significance
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of the place in trying to freeze uh because it had no interest
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and in a post colonial situation does becomes critical because men
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that create does offer built environment in a post colonial situation
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and the custodians the people are cultural looks after it
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up two completely different cultures it throws up many complicated
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questions for preservation because an additive cannot be as direct as if you were preserving the same buildings in in
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so we can't do this process of constructing new significance for this place
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and historic area because it had a museum it had some art galleries we began calling it an art history
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and we invented a festival and invented all sorts of mechanisms that well
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used to fund the preservation project uh and to get a new sense of public space up to
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the city and so we invented a festival we got sponsors we did street furniture and sign it which
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in our government's because we have such other crisis isn't housing sanitation
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this falls very low down on that priority so we said as private citizens could be privilege some of those
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things in terms of our priorities and so this district then began to get perceived as a not district and
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the buildings that this great one building got restored completely from money that was raised
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by these instruments of the festival or or parking lot we discovered it became applause ah
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for concerts to raise money lately gardens began to get used people started using the fuss not and the street
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for galleries and so it became also a public space because whenever the polar ice
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societies like ours and i'll discuss this much more of the rich and the plot
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we have to find as architects ways to soften the threshold
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between these disparate groups and had a meeting the public space
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isn't important but those of you don't know india you will want to see
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these things happening in the private realm never in the public realm of so easily
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oh and so these little things which are taken for granted in the west perhaps we did
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but it also led us to projects because what we then that would be initiated a project to say that look this
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is the museum the one being used efficiently let's add things
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which will integrated with the artistic so these are projects then be
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saddam invented in partnership with these institutions because the one thinking about it
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like this and so but point here is that from a part of
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research and a part of documenting the start of city off it leading to open legislation
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uh and then going to smaller micro project allows the
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architect to spend this entire range which is it's incredibly
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exciting and possible only if you don't see the divisions
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between these disciplinary boundaries a moment you see the disciplines
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then you are bound and that threshold become very hot
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they don't become porous minutes landscape architecture planning so this is
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this is the the museum which is the centre of the on this trip that's an historic image and this was the warehouse with
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no windows it was one window here to bring things up remote
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grain and a skylight and it was fifty thousand square feet of space
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that was really used as a damp and so we said that if
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you added a veranda or a gallery here and you opened up these
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openings and you had because the fire regulations ways that you could move
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in and out of it you could use fifty thousand square feet for art
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which means for the ah districts suddenly you added a massive percentage
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of usable space and situated it more formally in the people's imagination
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and so what we did was we have laws that these drawings but we added this one little intervention and we took the
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skylight been made it atrium and suddenly fifty thousand square feet of
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space was added in of course this is a great one building
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was very complicated to then get the permissions to do something more contemporary which was in
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rhythm with all of this and what we came up with through a series of studies
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was to come up with a very contemporary intervention we use the all stolen that came out of the wall
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that we broke for the opening so that you had a memory off that but this was all done in steel
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uh as a contemporary interventions so that the rhythms with the same menu in the building
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the it the skylight was use the the sack circulation of the building was get separate from the
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old with the idea that is another generation disagreed with this they could remove it without hurting the fabric
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so the question of reverse ability in a sense which came from all
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earnings on preservation we began to apply with this sort of contemporary sensibility
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and then later we also suggested to them because an existing building which is quite ugly
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we set by making a very low key intervention we can create a visitors centre with the shop
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the bag it security instead of having security everywhere you clear it all
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up and so if we did this uh intervention which was a small kiosk
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for baggage and for security all very invisible so it doesn't alter the
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lines otherwise they have little shapes your of a security it's sort of terrible
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and so this was a little intervention around an existing building but you
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see the it's just the veranda which is made in stainless steel it reflects
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the thing and this is where you take it back and you give your back that's already invisible so you don't see people
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it's abstracts contemporary uh of the time and sort of reflects the
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images around it so in some ways it kind of up disappears
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and that's when people go to security they come out with the kiosk is just a very light pavilion
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and then of course the result is also extended about trying to
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through these uh experiences understand what is the city a bargain at columbine
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kinetic city uh and i believe very much that in the urban planning in open design discourse
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one of the most non productive aspects has been the fact that we call something
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be informal city this so much literature on the informal city and so when you
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said taco binary when you say the formal city in the informants that you even
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the rich and the port your affiliations as an architect reside in one of the other
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so the people why not looking at the informal city sit in informal city
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and doing projects in for their laws and slums and all of that kind
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and i think is binary is non productive because it becomes a
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confrontation so i use the product category like the third world idea which
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mental politically many decades ago i call it the kinetic city city which has a
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completely different response to open isn't too density to the notion of temper at the
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and i think one by in many cities in issue in many cities in europe in particular are really the kinetic set
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and so we also been working a lot and we're gonna be putting this together than exhibitions on in the publication of
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this notion of the kinetic city city that is in flux it's reaching orgasm and how do you kind of read it
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and and for the kinetic city architect is not also the only spectacle festivals like this
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on the spectacles and this is an amazing festival of damage which gets over over over a couple of days ago
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where i'd million people participate in this on the last day of the ten days of worship
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two or three thousand of these large i'd lose i you must in the c. and these idols and made out of clay
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as the ideal dissolves in the water the memory of
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that event and spectacle dissolves and so the kinetic city
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the in courts its memory in interactive processes
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and the festivals become an incredibly powerful instrument
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the challenge even the idea of the static city as architect would be
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on the only instrument by which you can or the cities and so
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architecture then place a completely different role and what has happened for
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all of us we're all being bullied by what i call impatient capital
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impatient capital has been determining the form of architecture and cities around
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the world in the last two decades with the process of global isaac
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impatient capital wants to be realised very quickly and then the architecture that comes out of it is
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it's vendor driven it's of a particular kind it's
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about maximising line values at all doing it very quickly
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so the variations then become how much you can priest your building i suppose or how you can clad
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and this architecture impatient capital is i think the biggest ask
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for us globally and this happens in different measures in different ways
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uh in different places but this is i think the project of
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resistance are that i think would resonate across communities of architects professionals
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uh across the world and i think this is a important to blink you'll notice
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and kinetic city space is made in different ways the kinetic city is about how
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you mean the boundaries of the city more elastic how does an imagined
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uses happen temporarily so in this case for the festival you you see cost
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but by ten o'clock at night it becomes pedestrian and this becomes the
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big auditorium put people together to pray or to sing or to perform and
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it's actually becomes your conference room which is for ten days defined by
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these lights of course and that whether you can do it and then many
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many examples off this in the same festival entire structures that made in plaster
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of paris and they disappear and the these covered just incredible into special spaces
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all the most popular example is this one of cricket which is the open
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spaces and abide to the my dance and cricket is a very important game
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in india as some of you might know i mean in india we say
00:27:45
that it's a lot it's an indian game invented by the british oh and so
00:27:51
it's very very sacred and what happens in the evenings in mobile it is that the same space
00:27:57
by by by seven o'clock in the evening is used for weddings uh
00:28:01
and the only place that is not touch is the pitch because that's sacred
00:28:05
oh and so this is the club members of that it that that club that owns this having high tea
00:28:11
this is the reading this is the kitchen that's making some also was giving it to the members as well as giving it to the reading
00:28:16
so this incredible synergy and by the morning it disappears it touches
00:28:20
the ground very likely it's band to clark's string and by the
00:28:24
morning it disappears completely and this ability of the city to expand
00:28:29
its margin to accommodate use widgets come out of density comes out of
00:28:33
many many reasons some of which are not positive is i think a very particular of form of organism
00:28:39
which relies on temp reality it or that relies on the rhythm of time in very very interesting ways
00:28:46
and so that leads me to the second question which is softening threshold because when you
00:28:50
have a city or particular kind of open isn't like this it also comes out of
00:28:55
oh the fact that these adjustments have to be made to the kinetic settings
00:28:59
not about grand vision it's about trying to imagine grand adjustment because that's the way
00:29:04
the uh the city operates and soap within the city the ways of resolving
00:29:08
does but when this condition of polarity between the rich and the poor like separate
00:29:12
goes to the fringes of the city it becomes highly problematic and so what is happening now with the city if you
00:29:19
had this kind of density and this is very different from say the condition in latin america many other parts of the world
00:29:25
where i thought that allows us long so informal city
00:29:28
exist in spatially defined areas not on the scenes base
00:29:32
in in the case of the indian open isn't because of the democracy which is i think an operating democracy
00:29:38
this whole existence is mind blowing and it's very very adjacent to each other and which
00:29:43
is very particular i think about india because of this kind of synergy that exist in
00:29:48
and the the result to get these extremes in all the world's biggest house which all of you for people
00:29:53
live in that house and the world's smallest sort of more than ten in habitation you get these mind blowing
00:29:59
sort of extremes which begin to pose themselves but when you go to the strange is that what that thirty
00:30:04
plays itself out because it's not challenged by density the
00:30:08
challenge of density allows these urges and sees too well
00:30:11
but in the room or landscape around move by the everyone is building work or farm houses
00:30:16
the ritual really building farm houses and log back this is uh by one
00:30:20
that all young practitioners have to start with that you get a completely different condition
00:30:25
like you get an inversion where what really happens is that you get the palladium but ah patted
00:30:30
down but the essence of symmetry and the image of the building is on the exterior was is
00:30:37
but the indian paradigm where your your image and your symmetry alive from the courtyard within and there's the reversal of
00:30:43
this process and therefore completely different kind of organism and
00:30:46
you begin to get projects like this with walls and fences
00:30:50
uh and you know this was not even done by an architect dammit meant i'm at the contract that going to the on the bottom this is for things
00:30:56
pop stuff it in the end i said was the architect for the project
00:30:59
that you're building any certain and i was the architect and say you designed it
00:31:02
is there no that line just give me an image of the white house from washington and say make it as
00:31:06
close to that as you can and this is what i did so this is our aspiration off off off or phone
00:31:13
of the rich in a sense that that playing out that's fantasies in a suburban location because
00:31:19
they don't have that opportunity in the density off of white but even single family houses don't exist
00:31:24
any longer and so we were challenger doing several houses that like
00:31:28
all the un backed this design over the last twenty years we've
00:31:31
done a number of houses and i just show you a few not to explain the architecture project itself it might be evident but
00:31:37
but few things we were experimenting with so he'll for example this was so young will make up
00:31:42
and i said how do you soften the threshold that means
00:31:45
when you build as open people sophisticated architectural pieces in these locations
00:31:50
what might be the generosity or the gesture that house like this can meet
00:31:56
gauge what surrounded and we came up with the idea of create this is the living room of
00:32:00
the house which is just an open random so when the people go beyond the close the door
00:32:03
this becomes an offering together with the taps that if they didn't do well by the water that's collected on the roof
00:32:09
become an offering to the village the caretaker can use it in this family sit there with his friends that that
00:32:14
i've even seen awaiting happening that of the look of it so it becomes a way that we can make spatial modulations
00:32:21
which become the sort of offerings but they become experiments at least to become gestures
00:32:26
to what hal houses like this can be the material ice for that process uh and so that's
00:32:31
the plan of the house and that's the living room and the house closes the bedrooms face another side
00:32:37
almost a problem it has a lot on the front is left very natural as if it was an extension of the room
00:32:42
landscape that and this becomes of offering a veranda of public space
00:32:47
for the caretaker for his family for his friends of from philly
00:32:51
uh and so another project in and the bought a people building in an
00:32:55
orchard so instead of placing the house at the beginning of the orchard which is
00:32:59
the colonial patter that we decide to put the house in the centre of the
00:33:02
or to the lobby can houses so it's it's in the centre of the orchard
00:33:06
uh it it it's always is like when you go in there is
00:33:09
a pool which is just freshwater folklore emissions it should be charges the well
00:33:14
but it can also be used to watch the fruit in the orchard when the owners are not
00:33:18
there and a cool way every fortnight but they come on the weekend and when the house is closed
00:33:23
and this is open when it's close this bowl which is this poll gives access to the workers in the orchard
00:33:29
then use the pool and the courtyard for their own production so there's a
00:33:33
kind of dual coding which means that you can then potentially by spatial organisation
00:33:38
create different kinds of associations up with the space which becomes interesting as
00:33:43
an idea or in this last project that we've done the bottom bit
00:33:47
by creating a series of plants which attached to the kitchen
00:33:51
the all those can invite the villagers people who work in the phone
00:33:54
book on and said as if they're within the house and also to
00:33:58
except route without really nestle penetrating the privacy of a house which might
00:34:03
have you know want that previously and it's a very simple house even as i type
00:34:07
the way that it's it's then what i like very much uh what i'm very satisfied with is when our houses get referred to
00:34:14
but everything except the fact their house so this is called the school all the religious sell
00:34:19
that house that looks like a school so that's the house of or another house yeah i'll
00:34:23
show you another one which it looks like a factory and this d. with the realisation of
00:34:27
the image of the house is another way of beginning to challenge the type of allergies too
00:34:32
are doomed to blower to soften that polarisation that otherwise begins to exist and to respond
00:34:38
to what might be really great particular conditions are in that situation which is economic cultural social
00:34:45
oh and the inside of the house has the sophistication that open people
00:34:48
might want oh and the previously that it might but because it's it also
00:34:52
has principles up which we use in all these projects i'm not highlighting those
00:34:56
of climates and nothing is more than one room keeps everything is naturally ventilated
00:35:01
the water as a way to cool the air and therefore make it
00:35:04
would up uh in terms of temperature except also that many other climatic principles
00:35:09
oh that i'm not elaborating which also of course embedded in these projects of
00:35:13
this last project which is on the t. gotten oh in cool weather climbed
00:35:18
of course about the garden which is for a cause and they wanted to
00:35:20
remove the t. and have loans and waterfalls and rock reason all the usual stuff
00:35:26
he said look you should leave the t. uh and we came up with you said he's got his brief was i wanted to look like a log cabin
00:35:32
so we said we'll do that what we finally did as a three bedroom that carton board
00:35:37
oh that would sit under the standards the group so those are the three larry
00:35:40
kept calling them log cabins in uh plans are to leave found out that we
00:35:44
really fooling him but then he realised the value of what we were doing and
00:35:48
he accepted it but this is therefore by the villages as the t. exactly house
00:35:52
which is interesting because it's uh what's that sort of association and
00:35:55
that image uh and of course one has touched it as likely
00:35:59
as possible we did very knowing will cost a lot more cops
00:36:04
to see whether column should be how the t. would be useless
00:36:07
just up in terms of drainage because drainage is very important for t. that's what the rules
00:36:12
uh on on slopes of you also sort of use materials that were the local use a
00:36:17
lot of crafts people uh be created you know nice more divisions of lights these of that
00:36:22
not gavin that was referring to the mormons at the entrance which at different ages the political
00:36:28
oh and then these are the three bedrooms which i would the rest is a lot of public space because it's the views
00:36:33
that you really sort of enjoy uh and of course frames wonderful does those uh up from within within the house
00:36:41
and it's it's very comfortably uh in terms of scale when people are walking around the city and it's still
00:36:47
uh but i think it's yeah the response not cause these houses have a h.
00:36:51
people who are into meaning the and the challenge for us how do sauce on it
00:36:56
can argue whether the successful or not but i think even embedding an aspiration and ambition to do that
00:37:01
i think is a useful way to begin to articulate a discussion about succumb to the poet issue
00:37:06
which is building ecology and i think this is important in that just to remind ourselves that building common
00:37:14
scalable design which is not become kind of equal to that it
00:37:18
really is a combination of social ecology the economy as well as physically
00:37:22
and we can't departed from these understandings and that's why i go back to the title looking in one but i
00:37:28
mean for us we're we're running lessons which have to do with the social how can one make some shouldn't you
00:37:34
the me and trying to see how these might inspire us to build your narratives about how you can build and
00:37:39
so this image i like very much because of the sashes that you see here which is something propaganda uh invented
00:37:46
the book that's called the bottom of the purple timit but a lot see
00:37:49
chipper allow lots about how the bottom the printed in terms of markets is
00:37:53
the big one and so let's take shampoo a bottle of shampoo is the
00:37:57
whole the age of the problems working on a building site for a whole month
00:38:01
and they can't buy a bottle of temple because uh someone salary if it's about having the small
00:38:05
sashes that you have it's what you need in a few cents you can get for one box
00:38:10
so therefore they can decide to get the income and this is kind of incremental isn't that a implied here
00:38:16
i mean i'm big banner discussion that begins to get inspiration from
00:38:20
aspects like this in terms of the seat things as finished product
00:38:24
we don't we don't factor time in perhaps add a pretty i'm not saying
00:38:27
everyone doesn't people do but i met an additive that the profession is engaged with
00:38:32
within the did a bit of sustainability as many parts missing which up to incremental isn't
00:38:37
the uh the temp routing question ask or social culture
00:38:41
et cetera and so that's what has really happened is
00:38:45
that the whole debate about sustainability it too i think in my
00:38:49
critique to what we think important things that happened one is that
00:38:52
it has um are it has it has been hijacked by the high kicks so it has
00:39:00
it it at some moment you know through the sixties and
00:39:03
seventies what one had wonderful examples of loading look technology in africa
00:39:08
british architects working back to me that this was the cleansing of their mortality in the post colonial
00:39:13
period they were contributing to do social institutions that what they were great innovations then terms of include
00:39:20
at some moment in the eighties to hide next completely co opted the debate about sustainability and it
00:39:26
became a mechanical and chemical fixed to a problem solve it it i assume that let's make a problem
00:39:33
then it's fine better mechanical and chemical fixes to do it so that the whole debate either not need
00:39:38
it's a part insulation making the blossom anymore they're outputting three more years
00:39:42
of blinds having more efficient fan systems but the point is how do we
00:39:46
get to the root of the problem and of course in different climates it's much easier to do and so the other thing that went out of that
00:39:53
still abilities a social as material the implications of organisational questions like style except for
00:39:59
that and the third thing that went out to the b. b. it was just the
00:40:02
notion of building remove the debate from the question of whether into weather proofing so
00:40:07
everything that is tightening our discussions about dividing driving the industry is really about whether proof
00:40:14
the obsessed it's even send me obsessed with other the sealant is
00:40:17
transparent and how many years of glass but we're not looking at
00:40:21
bettering as we did which means life cycle of materials can be
00:40:25
design a building that's somewhat you lose might have to be replaced
00:40:28
danielle summon thirty has which is what lessons of historic preservation tell us and so
00:40:33
the question is how do you know that back uh in a way that it can actually in rich and inform us and get away for
00:40:39
and of course climate becomes very important in this question in there for example
00:40:44
we don't we don't have such to in most parts of india let's and why they don't have that much
00:40:48
planted radiation the monsoon is the only moment where we feel a sense of thread and
00:40:53
we feel oh a landscape that changes the sky changes the humidity changes otherwise it's quite flat
00:41:00
and so this is become also of course very important for us because the the the the threatening but
00:41:05
this one but the the the landscape exploding the happiness that comes at the joy the optimism the hope
00:41:12
it was so wonderful but also how does one design for that so do
00:41:15
we only for graphite buildings when it's not raining but also all the buildings really
00:41:19
designed for the rain all the elements that we can work with which is i
00:41:23
think these up things and traditions say someone like jeffrey bow and she long car
00:41:27
uh uh uh and uh began to talk about bitches become
00:41:31
very inspirational for us of those become moments and this idea that
00:41:34
the building can be divided and portals in design terms by life cycles of
00:41:39
and so that i think it becomes so that was always i believe we can
00:41:43
enrich the debate of sustainability and that takes me to the question of crafting condition becomes
00:41:49
also because of the high techs that have preempted this whole debate croft
00:41:54
also i mean the best craft is disappeared i mean it it it it exists but it's expensive because it's
00:42:01
mine but there's not enough supply in india it's much more so
00:42:04
continues tradition and so that continued is mind boggling and assured you
00:42:08
projects it exists it's all around you the question is i'll be abusing it this is the
00:42:13
question i'm asking us as architects in india because we seem to be perpetuating the materials like wood
00:42:19
or even still want it would be a bit yeah perpetuating of a mid hello spectrum of materials which are
00:42:26
easy to extend that often but it doesn't begin to address
00:42:30
the question of industry lactation other materials the bigger question is how
00:42:34
the document oscar agricultural construction is the biggest employer
00:42:39
and it's defined as labour not as craft how
00:42:42
can one changed and a bit at a much larger level but it's road building or industrial products
00:42:47
and not celebrating fetish eyes crossed within a very narrow spectrum of materials and so for me i think
00:42:53
uh why we boast of traditions in cost more across men can be doing i don't think we're discussing adequately
00:42:59
how we can extend it uh in the spectrum with you does within the culture of building in contemporary india
00:43:06
and so i asked to use a very small studio oh these are just images which are
00:43:11
this was ninety if no ninety eight also and now you can see that
00:43:16
drawing boards of disappeared but it's very small the i interested in model making be make a lot of things
00:43:22
oh we also in b. also engaged cross people all the different tradition off people who we can
00:43:27
begin to get them to look at them pretty things uh in in associated in collaborative ways up
00:43:33
to our conservation projects of which i sort of showed you a little bit of the part model this in a while
00:43:39
it meant going back to the original quarries to match
00:43:41
the model very rudimentary instruments but i think that engagement
00:43:46
his is an important one to support and of course the question is how
00:43:50
do you extend it a an extended down to the making of concrete or
00:43:55
extending the traditional crafts of stone and that of course it's still the last second last question which is
00:44:00
the question of the local and global you know we used to think about thinking globally and acting locally
00:44:06
and the problem is that in the last few decades because of localisation it's been exactly the opposite because
00:44:12
people who've been thinking locally it had the part to actually uh and so of what was that
00:44:19
the developed in houston is the code in pleasing and all of that was exported
00:44:22
all over the middle east and i think the whole process of localisation as being
00:44:26
emblematic off that and i think that's an important question process
00:44:30
last again because i think the resonance with the idea of
00:44:33
thinking globally but acting locally is an important one but how
00:44:36
it gets textured in the contemporary world is is is very important
00:44:40
oh and i think in the case of in there again the coexistence of these things that's my carpenter's tool box but
00:44:46
it's wonderful how the pantheon of gots coexist with the plates
00:44:49
and the castro heavy duty or in in a very easy relationship
00:44:53
uh and so it slips into lies an in and out of lies very easily and i
00:44:57
think that's what recognising rather than fetish rising and again setting up a binary which becomes non productive
00:45:03
and you know there's been an incredible resurrection of last two in india bitches financially
00:45:08
uh everyone is using it and it's mind boggling and of course the
00:45:12
haven't thought would be of last two nightmare because everything is a different angle
00:45:16
but these are abstract notions they don't it on an
00:45:18
architectural form but they determined location in terms of sacred spaces
00:45:23
and that would regions assign to fit in its does the kitchens you get the
00:45:27
mornings on southwest is where the master bedroom will be so you get the priest
00:45:31
but of course because it got co opted again by the prominence in by the place that got
00:45:36
corrupted in a way out that it became very complex but does exist
00:45:40
and be at least recognise it and and say that all the projects start
00:45:43
about ninety percent the projects actually you you've actually taken this as part of
00:45:47
the climb trees uh because they do believe in it it's a question of fate
00:45:51
oh and so then how do you reconcile this this abstraction of tradition and the resurfacing of the engine within
00:45:57
contemporary agent for make it's very very exciting uh and something that one
00:46:03
sort of looks at it you know this is the inauguration of a building with good weather like cows into the building
00:46:08
to basically crap all over the place but it's sort of way of senate rising public but
00:46:13
you know it's a beliefs and one had to accept it and he's a believes that it is
00:46:17
this is a hostile consultant who he's an engineer with a masters degree but he has also to think it's up the
00:46:23
so that we could see has all these meetings with holy people adjust to endorse the fact that his brushes with holy men
00:46:29
has made and someone with an inside it's a completely different operating on all the rituals that go with the
00:46:34
buildings of this building that i'm going to show you the location of all the major spaces with the domain
00:46:39
by consultation with people who practised in this thing in one
00:46:44
sees that as being legitimate as long as it doesn't impinge
00:46:47
on maybe the integrity of the form and the last thing that i'm
00:46:50
gonna talk about is models of practised before i show you the project
00:46:55
this is a book i just did on architecture in in the in the last twenty years which is the twenty is that going set it up practised
00:47:01
so the the insights from the feel but essentially i broke the book
00:47:05
down by what i called back to says models of engagement because i found
00:47:09
that these modes of englishman who exist in the indian context and what is
00:47:13
different about these modes of thought engagement are not only the values which means
00:47:17
what is what is very interesting for me in the research was the global practised as
00:47:21
which is the expression of a patient capital which is all the plastic the cotton casing
00:47:26
and then the regional practised as which is the extension also modernism
00:47:29
and i think most architects that you would even know about from india
00:47:33
fall in that category of regional manifestations that you have alternate back
00:47:37
this is like people like laurie echo will working for the people
00:47:40
aren't doing things that you know smaller towns and you have counter martin is images of the surface in the what was interesting was
00:47:46
that were images of modernity with the strongest the social transformation agenda was absent
00:47:52
and even in the regional us back to switch we celebrate as the aesthetics that we
00:47:56
all feel comfortable rate and the practised as we feel comfortable actually yes no social trance
00:48:01
that by the time you come to the fact that they're actually tempos being built which are ancient
00:48:06
traditional modes that have massive social transformation agendas and
00:48:10
this information from our understanding of modernism and it's sort
00:48:15
of a result the at is is very important to understand in india because the social transformation is happening
00:48:21
where they on mortality is resurfacing in very strong base and this is the big challenge uh i think
00:48:27
for architects and so i just sort of to these maps and to locate where out what is too
00:48:32
so if you looked at in the are those of you who've followed it to the sixties and seventies
00:48:37
this was the architectural spine of of an s. which started in john they've got new delhi at the bar
00:48:43
borrowed alum by charles korean others working go up
00:48:47
on the cherry had some modernism and this is where
00:48:50
it all sort of lay and everything that we looked at what have you been on this architectural spine right
00:48:56
in the last twenty hours what i studied my bach the economic and this is also the
00:49:00
economic activity except that would have happened in the last twenty years this is where the access
00:49:06
this is where the production of architectures happening it's all be happening and got caught the
00:49:11
hype about jen at that you know the i. t. all the things that you hear about
00:49:15
now what's interesting in this new what's in the these new site so joggers is a production
00:49:20
the map package of modernism doesn't exist because the schools what i really think that project and that
00:49:26
that the the landscape and embrace that project and essentially what even happened
00:49:30
here but i think what you have to realise in india is that
00:49:34
aesthetic modernity right in india before so should we don't yet you have a complete mismatch
00:49:38
so when we despaired about the state of our modern buildings except
00:49:42
it's partially got to do with a static modernity arriving that before source
00:49:46
media like the west weights ocean would on it is that it we're gonna to actually was synergistic really intertwined and this
00:49:53
dislocation is a very critical thing to understand what technical lance
00:49:57
to be able to discern up what's happening in india and so
00:50:01
in addition to this what's interesting is these are all the new cities that are going to explode in india
00:50:08
and that three hundred and ninety two cities which and twenty other towns which in twenty years
00:50:13
be a million people four hundred million people are going to live in places that
00:50:18
i honestly can't even in ten of them i have to look at a book too
00:50:22
it's mind boggling how this whole landscape is leadership now for us the important thing is
00:50:27
modernism a particular set of protocols in ways you
00:50:31
give instructions you pull the images that you engage with
00:50:35
those protocols break down completely here by the time you come
00:50:39
to this landscape the protocol to break down completely and that's why
00:50:43
the proposition in the book is that we have to look at different moods of engagement with building
00:50:47
art with with costs people with clients with the protocols that we set up the feedback loops you create
00:50:53
and i think that's why looking at models of packed this is an important question
00:50:57
not only for us as practitioners to open up our minds but also for academics
00:51:02
to address in pedagogical questions and what you see what inspires you but the protocols
00:51:07
that are embedded in those processes become important and so i'll work has been located
00:51:12
largely well in mobile i put in the parts that i'm referring to we've done work there and i'll show you
00:51:17
but we've got very embed it in working in this place is it the protocols break
00:51:22
and i think in retrospect one wasn't doing this very conscious to even be working in retrospect
00:51:28
one things that because we were engaged preservation viewing get with many gives
00:51:32
advocacy and our clients will cost means and n. g. o.s and private clients
00:51:38
began to i think him by the fact that you needed different kinds of protocols to operate in
00:51:43
different kinds of projects and that then equips you as a as an activist or as a professional
00:51:49
in terms of how you can get to the problem and how you trellis that landscape of the resistance
00:51:55
is that we all deal with when we're working so i'm gonna show it a six projects which will be
00:52:00
oh well i think i will finish and fifteen twenty minutes to make my art but
00:52:04
these are projects that are broken into two categories of four start what i call global
00:52:09
programs because what happens with global programs is
00:52:13
you imagine all the client assumes global image
00:52:16
and the second set of projects is what i'm calling local programs which are programs that
00:52:20
are very much can only happen in india so to speak and what happens with local programs
00:52:26
is the clients often desperation is you can't get
00:52:30
shot the local so you make it like hawks in
00:52:32
really show you do that and i think what we have to do is actually worse that that is what
00:52:37
group will think globally act act locally i think to my my means
00:52:41
that that you can take global programs that come with the force of capital
00:52:45
that are coming with a kind of transformational agenda on a landscape that
00:52:49
perhaps got except that that it would be an intervention that would be disruptive
00:52:53
and you kind of lead you to me you localise it in ways that it operates but also makes it stronger isn't
00:53:00
and in the local programs is how you in what those programs to resonate small group will meaning
00:53:06
in terms of the we use that to size it and i think for me this becomes a comes on and i'm not gonna revisit
00:53:11
this question just please hold at the back of your mind as you see these projects so this was one is a project for india's
00:53:18
because machine tool company collapse me machine works they are in collaboration
00:53:22
with companies invented two of the the you know the cutting it stuff
00:53:27
and in ninety this the building we finished in ninety seven and we were
00:53:31
approached in ninety four my office is only four years old at that point
00:53:34
uh and uh they don't let us publish it because it really very low
00:53:38
key people in quite but or in south india they were just sort of
00:53:41
beginning to give it physical expression and so we went back to doing houses
00:53:45
because no one knew about this but this was the brief that they give us
00:53:48
and they even told us that in ninety four when our economy i just open that you could
00:53:52
not get materials from outside india when they give us the brief and they wanted to do this up
00:53:57
gloss stop with the garden in front of the phone didn't talking behind the said one but
00:54:01
it it was about the license to bring the glass from australia that won't be a problem
00:54:06
so we both got shocked and it took us a long time but we managed to convince them to do that
00:54:11
and to create a building that's it's much more in sync with the
00:54:15
landscape of industry of any hybrid landscape that's around it and that it
00:54:19
that that it the the the the the image of the building isn't internally sort of situated one
00:54:25
and what we came up with that that's an ideal was a series of courts which would model like what it like very beautifully the way the
00:54:32
do it in on the scale of the courts would change the quality of like whatever also allows for ventilation
00:54:38
oh and for the building to operate very naturally and so that's really conceptually what it was and record a water body
00:54:44
they're going to want to frost all the building because this is the rain shadow in south india
00:54:48
so it's a very dry climate and the building is just seven degrees cooler just because of the water
00:54:54
i'm a sequence of spaces that user walk through a in section uh you enter and
00:54:59
it's moderated or hell by this rules but kind of right up cane vocabulary within it with
00:55:06
god knows that up places people can eat and it gets more intimate as you sort of uh go into the building from
00:55:13
the street to it's transparent it's not a big reflecting box that
00:55:17
no one knows what's inside and so this is related to that
00:55:20
question of threshold that even the special access for people who are not part of our corporation like that is the way of
00:55:27
soft mean that threshold was just creating a very hard edge by
00:55:30
having reflective gotten gas which have gone in that case from australia
00:55:35
and within the building we have this waterfall that's used to call
00:55:38
the building oh and a series of courtyards at different levels the green
00:55:42
sort of you know kind of telephoto lens kind of up we it
00:55:46
collapses the green it makes it very tight and makes it very present
00:55:49
uh and on the on different levels we had artist do installations which became places people could meet
00:55:55
of the use the local k. tiles of and as you go into the building it gets
00:56:00
more intimate with a family that owns the building sets it almost feels like a tradition house
00:56:04
traditional house within this sort of a vulcan ten people category and
00:56:08
they had seven or eight indian artists with dodgy city what meeting then
00:56:12
oh to building elements of the said it all on art on the wall but what we'd like is
00:56:17
installations that actually also become a elements in the building someone
00:56:21
g. powers of it as all get out this bit is reeling
00:56:24
for the bridge or be worked with these sort of um it's does the stone companies and we
00:56:30
got large granted it was online the company on which is use right through but the
00:56:34
edges of the grand i can be tested we use those strips to create the waterfall
00:56:38
so we kind of better recycle that material for effect we did installations is a hundred
00:56:43
and four election is which is the goddess of wealth which is the symbol of the company
00:56:47
we didn't installation of this rather than just sort of doing a big sort of bored of which was done in
00:56:52
stainless steel like of slack a fluttering in the wind
00:56:55
uh and these what images of what magic ball usually does
00:56:59
so the first time he also translated is because in this case into kabul and that's what you bought
00:57:04
invite you've city and then we developed a vocabulary of about thirty
00:57:09
oh charlie switches screens which is of a traditional element and what
00:57:12
we did was we use an artist call you'll get trouble and we
00:57:17
this is the inspiration which is the old with charlie and
00:57:21
we created a whole look at reusing scrap metal from the
00:57:25
machine tool company so this is all the metal that comes out of the press and then making the components the machine tools
00:57:30
and that was used an integrated uh as these sort of johnny's and that created a kind of vocabulary and image
00:57:36
which works quite differently at different times of the day for different moods upriver sees in
00:57:40
front of toilets except or and this stack so they can be screwed open to be clean
00:57:45
and things like that they also become large bottles begin to
00:57:48
resonate tribal out that they actually just scrap metal from the
00:57:52
machine tool company which for me was an interesting thing this is definitely not one of our projects but this is what
00:57:59
is built for information technology this is the world trade centre uh a park in july poor
00:58:06
enjoy i put in some of the temperature is about forty
00:58:08
five degrees centigrade you can sometimes fried egg on the road
00:58:12
but this is one brand new building which is yet being finished as you can see
00:58:16
and information technology and this is what i mean when you have global programs they're associated
00:58:21
global images that go with it which i highly problematic so we were asked to design
00:58:25
oh oh oh oh information technology software pop for h. p. u. what back out
00:58:31
the american company and this is electronic city in in in bangalore and you can see
00:58:36
this is electronic city i mean this is a striking in the us economy that is the campus of influences
00:58:43
you can see the disparate moments here you can see the lawns up please
00:58:47
the american clients that is it it's all quite nonsensical so this is that campus
00:58:52
twenty it cause they had only don't get it cause using and
00:58:54
other indian architect who i won't name because i'm in criticising add up
00:58:59
what they had done was that really what you see in yellow is software which needs air conditioning all of this is
00:59:06
in all pantry is a photocopying toilets up places to sit except for
00:59:11
but these are class boxes that attract exactly like what
00:59:14
i showed you that's the image that actually new image because
00:59:18
you know it was real good uh uh so so so we studied
00:59:22
this still relies that you could actually this aggregated and what we did was
00:59:26
based on the street is so we may just retail and we put
00:59:29
all the programs we believe that didn't need eh conditioning along that introduce water
00:59:34
we put the software process modules that plot along with green courtyards between
00:59:38
them and put the generate doesn't mechanic 'cause the back a very simple diagram
00:59:42
for courts of the two and now what was interesting and that's the plan so what you see is this is
00:59:48
all air conditioned yeah this is not this is the condition that you use and that's those are study models but
00:59:55
talking about he needs and all of that up to one it's wesley what time
00:59:59
of the air conditioning is what we were told is business as usual a consultant
01:00:03
doesn't it yeah together you need certification they said you have to go up
01:00:06
to two ninety eight would be expensive and actually ridiculous because people do code precinct
01:00:11
then this clear on the computer so they buy expensive recognise blinds this happens all over the well and it's
01:00:17
sort of a contradictory thing but you made a problem is solving it with a mechanic look at the text
01:00:22
but what we did was we said forget to nineteen we don't want to lead certificate the client degree
01:00:27
and we took it up to seven hundred and five square c.
01:00:30
put down which was like three times what he even wanted for
01:00:33
a platinum but we can do this by what we did was me basically convinced that line to be need to a condition seventy percent
01:00:40
so it wasn't locked tech solution but it changed that back the diagram of that discussion company
01:00:45
and i think and back no is a very good climate it's eh condition climate almost
01:00:50
but what are also that was a good was the location to create architectural
01:00:53
spaces which the software things don't have because you're trapped in a glass box
01:00:58
and so that was the challenger these are some conference rooms the
01:01:02
spec is design copper which will become the colour of what you see
01:01:05
oh you can walk along the building a and within the conference rooms the greens of frame
01:01:11
these other streak areas which are double height spaces so people can call out
01:01:14
to the friends and they can talk of places that it's it it made
01:01:18
and they come out of what adolescent isolated in one block yukon
01:01:21
meet each other uh except f. unless you make around the whole point
01:01:25
uh and then you know so it becomes a completely different atmosphere in terms of the materials you can use the colour
01:01:31
oh you know the spaces you can model it them these are the full courts that
01:01:35
arctic conditions company can actually ventilated they have different scales of spaces where you can sit
01:01:41
uh and communicate with people bush between the software blocks we put very minimal placing so from the high level
01:01:47
when you're sitting on a desk you see the band oh but it doesn't affect your computer screens you don't need
01:01:51
you have very large lines you can headlines a good communicator pogo dot and greens it also become what gets people can sit it
01:01:58
it's actually a low tech solution but it's not the image that's software wants but it's very efficient
01:02:04
and so then extending that idea we were aspen infrastructure company
01:02:08
oh to do a building for them in hyper about which is become the new tech area it's called cyber bought them
01:02:14
again it's all these gas boxes oh out which are all class this is the
01:02:18
only bob box that's not glass it's clad in brick and it's designed by mario bottle
01:02:23
lucille swiss architect so it's not lost seventy usability class that it's a very sensible
01:02:27
building but these are all glass boxes and this was the site you would get it
01:02:31
and so it was interesting we began to study hyped about it and
01:02:36
these are the two things that we do that this is a typical glass building the
01:02:40
and what's interesting is a lots of rights and hype about because they want to divide the state now
01:02:45
and when you live in a glass house you don't so stones about those of course everyone throw stones at
01:02:49
so now when you order the code and gazing from the went doesn't the contractors when they get to
01:02:54
the shop drawings they also get your shop drawings to attach an extra talks to the next these fish nets
01:03:00
they come with the class so that every building that has fish net so
01:03:04
that you can have the glass but no one can break the glass better things
01:03:07
so it's another aesthetic that's sort of developing which is
01:03:10
almost totally ridiculous but it's perpetuated because the power of association
01:03:16
through the way global capital perpetuates itself also comes from somewhere else it's pretty determines
01:03:21
what has to be built and some drawings colour window comes in the builder got
01:03:26
then we look at this little heart just outside unless it this is oh what a cool
01:03:30
it's a natural water cooler in july poor actually which is similar climate that that document what's up
01:03:36
and they put it up in the summertime it's not actually cool when you see little cattle there and that's where you get anybody can go it's
01:03:42
free you go there and you put your hand out and somebody posted what
01:03:45
the cold water you drink it and you can go on your way so
01:03:51
it's just sort of look at that for a second so we began to document didn't study because i was just so
01:03:56
fascinated by it and that's a minute just come to work you so i'm going to work and now you put the kettle
01:04:02
so he is open for business it's the water cooler and people come and they drink
01:04:07
uh huh and uh it's it's cool water it's clean water
01:04:11
people stop on motorbikes and then once in a while the man comes out
01:04:16
of the small if top of water any sprays water on the
01:04:19
reeds which is by evaporation cooling the hunt and then within the heart
01:04:25
when he goes back there you close it again size air moves draw it very very low cost
01:04:30
oh you begin to get this and then the parks in which the water's kept
01:04:33
also made it ought which means they porous which means to read operation the cool
01:04:37
the or what colour you which everyone uses uh and so you get very cool water
01:04:42
in the process people enjoy it and we talk could be sort of be inspired but
01:04:48
for this infrastructure company hype about we took this as a
01:04:50
starting point and researched it a little bit measured some temperature
01:04:54
oh and talk let's experiment again even if it's a gesture it might be
01:04:59
what so what we came up with was an idea of the green wall
01:05:03
again starting green was that i see all over your upper just talk on buildings which is not the
01:05:08
intention here this is the veil this is the double wall it's a double skin what happens to be green
01:05:13
and what it has is it has a nice thing system in the green so every now and then you can missed it
01:05:19
oh and the air was through it again through that creative cooling and the inside of
01:05:23
the building is suspect reading but what you can then do is three different kinds of gotten
01:05:28
and so we just start that's some of these principles of the screen of the really of
01:05:33
the evaporated calling they come from muslim traditions which exists in high regard is largely a muslim landscape
01:05:39
and so looking at these traditions more deeply one relies because we've done the palace restoration
01:05:44
exams family we began to understand how these devices will being
01:05:47
used and so we began to get confident about extending it
01:05:51
and so every first start then has a different pattern because it can be a changing facade you come back
01:05:56
and been tough you don't recognise the building hopefully this is just being finished yet that's why so hopefully oh
01:06:03
and then basically they studied many species we set up an l. c. d.
01:06:07
we saw fossil plants grow and then we came up with the first start
01:06:10
it's essentially a spec building and reinforced concrete which is the vernacular of india
01:06:14
today and a little village they can do it's it's interesting how that's been appropriated
01:06:19
and then we said let's put our energy in designing a trellis
01:06:22
so that even if the plants don't exist the trellis has some beauty
01:06:26
and how do you design the stratus so this is what we came up with the prices for so you have a lovely area for parties
01:06:32
and at the podium individual the parking goes and water that becomes places for people to
01:06:36
sit in the parking disappears under the podium and so that's the photoshop image of course
01:06:41
uh and it's really what would happen if you made nicer scaffolding and then didn't take the scaffolding
01:06:46
often these are the important conference rooms with sort of jumped out in the parking is all below
01:06:51
uh and and so we concentrated on making this palace
01:06:55
which i said again if he can take new material like out minimum handcrafted because i mean it
01:07:00
was usually excluded by the town and no one bothers but we said let's get people involved and
01:07:05
the man would make the grills for us in the l. m. w. project we involve him
01:07:10
and he set up the small factory outside hype about just to do
01:07:14
this and he employed twenty people so it was very very handy it
01:07:18
uh it was it was sort of yes there's a textual it was hand ground because
01:07:23
profiled in a way that we could have them listing system a sort of fit into it
01:07:27
and that's what the palace look like it was really this beautiful scaffolding that
01:07:30
stays on and this is before of course the plan sort of grew on it
01:07:34
and the section wasn't just the simple one it also had a modulation to define spaces with courtyard
01:07:40
so you got beautiful light also got a escape their pocket so there's a kind of logic even in the way
01:07:46
the section is developed and of course then it gives you a spectrum of spaces to define different departments the entrance area
01:07:52
oh the upper areas of uh with the skylights materials that defined the circulation goals
01:07:59
uh and then that's what happens with the green beginning to grow
01:08:02
this is the podium but much while grass which is local and native
01:08:05
bottles and stainless steel defined ones that you can entail visa
01:08:09
hydroponic trays of that up that need just drip irrigation so the
01:08:13
mistake is only to cool it when you want to the plants grew with this thing so you don't you know expend too much
01:08:19
oh what about it in in the process and then these become
01:08:22
the important rooms where you don't interrupt the view as you would do
01:08:26
in a place like that now what is interesting is that you're beginning to
01:08:30
see the patterns develop object to do the red flaws of beginning to come
01:08:34
this is the hydroponic straight which is a catwalk which means that for five slows the got notes
01:08:40
can go anywhere they want in the building no and they can't into the building
01:08:43
and for me again when go back just for a minute to the social special
01:08:47
in our corporate office like this in a place like
01:08:49
hyper bother just border lies not only religiously but also economically
01:08:54
you would have twenty gardeners would've been working in the garden have no access to the building also the
01:08:59
glass facade that we see the reflection didn't even know what's within it and that becomes a false exclusion
01:09:06
now of course architects cancel the social problems but i think we can create the mormons the spaces
01:09:11
the softening of trash was where even accidentally these moments of contact begin
01:09:17
to a cop and for me this really becomes the moment where that happens
01:09:21
and so with the conference rooms as executives are talking about infrastructure projects in
01:09:26
some other part of india or the was the actually see that god knows what
01:09:30
but the gardeners also have equal penetration of what is within and so the what if that's i
01:09:35
contact that this becomes also i believe a mode of top softening the threshold of creating this penetration
01:09:42
but also it is within buildings with sometimes other kinds of materials exclude
01:09:47
and that's what the building so it looks like when you missed it that's what happens and you can set them this thing at any
01:09:52
level they had starting that we haven't perfected it up but this is
01:09:55
just a short trip which gives you a sense of how this up
01:09:59
travis was made at this little factory which was all sort of hand made these twenty people
01:10:04
how old was created a which was profile uh so to integrate the listing system
01:10:10
oh and uh you know the other medium was of course aborted
01:10:13
melted and up and cost into place well and then molded fixed
01:10:18
finished up by hand uh uh to be sort of use in the
01:10:22
building so again it becomes hand made it becomes an involvement of people more
01:10:25
in the locality maybe it'll be copied in use for other things of
01:10:29
which would be a i think for me at least up the very very
01:10:33
oh and it's on the fringes of the city where it's possible to have lander you ought to do this kind of thing but i
01:10:39
think it also takes the involvement and that's when the listing systems
01:10:42
on other plans haven't yet grown up in the process of tracking it
01:10:47
uh we also have a young scientists not starting temperature difference at different times
01:10:50
to see whether it's it's just a static kind of thing or does it actually
01:10:54
uh make a difference it definitely is great i was feeling yeah they're hot somewhat data fields rating
01:11:00
how long do is is is very very beautiful in the whole beating sort of gets him goes in this but it's three or
01:11:06
four feet away from the mean facade so it doesn't sort of effect that in all the different plans are beginning to grow now
01:11:11
uh and it gives you the sense of moisture the sense of blackness which in a dry climate
01:11:16
as you all know is very very welcome but it also lets the texture of the element in state
01:11:22
uh i'm gonna run to this very quickly because we're running out of time to
01:11:25
get to los project but we also have tried to look at these local project
01:11:29
so the topic is give social sciences of any remote location that
01:11:32
we use passive methods we were inspired by the vernacular house expanded that
01:11:37
i got this is about a fifteen year old project using been scripts and
01:11:41
coding but trying to develop an aesthetic from it but also experimenting with ferro cement
01:11:45
to train local people to create a prefabricated method of construction but
01:11:50
which also gave us a good insulation because when you fill this with
01:11:54
a lot a lot grow wheat material you got very good
01:11:57
insulation but you going about their for the regular offer them
01:12:01
available course construction and batting small pavilions you added the number of spaces of
01:12:06
a low cost housing for them but you created another kind of a steady
01:12:10
about passive cooling and similarly in go up in our think tank which was meant
01:12:14
for a ten people to meet their uh and meditate and contemplated discuss what we
01:12:20
did was allowed to prove under which they were a series of meeting rooms but
01:12:23
the roof of the meeting rooms became places for more informal discussion for you all got
01:12:28
awful group meetings and developed a kind of a static of passive cooling from that
01:12:32
using the local actor right but the material which of it doesn't very beautiful ways
01:12:37
talk to create fantastic textures these last two projects all these are about very local
01:12:43
programs and it's amazing the slums of will bite even have a boy smiling like
01:12:47
us that magic boss which is in in geo that works with um a straight children and some children and
01:12:53
they create oh oh uh campus outside will buy with
01:12:57
these kids that they can on the weekends or recreation for
01:13:00
health nutrition related stuff and magic bus because it's it's you know this vet boston
01:13:06
magic bus because they get to a different band and so we decided to
01:13:09
do it as a series of put billions of we just sat on the landscape
01:13:13
but what was really interesting for us about this project is because we were also in involved with n. g. o.s
01:13:19
i said how do we make this research project how do we use this opportunity
01:13:23
evolves something which can go back to the slums and the street
01:13:27
kids who come here for education as an architect in terms of
01:13:30
the built environment in terms of textual material ways of putting things
01:13:33
together so that the the the constraint that we set ourselves was
01:13:37
we would use only material that you see in slums and began to develop a
01:13:41
panic of materials which often medusa recycle but idea was that it the same kids
01:13:47
so all these materials used in sophisticated ways oh that when they began
01:13:52
preparing their own houses and of course this is talking founded on the
01:13:55
assumptions that's lines are not gonna go to for two decades and like the way my government believes that didn't go over in the next few years
01:14:01
oh i think these kids could dramatically all tell the way their own houses on the eight
01:14:07
and situated and then for the only looked at the mess type biology so for example the dining
01:14:12
room is an open veranda with the kitchen but it also could be a public toilet with an education
01:14:17
and we used to as we would designing this before the shopping them into existing slums to see one of those
01:14:22
a static equipment and so these are the qualities in that project very simple materials cement
01:14:27
oh oh modules the dining which is essentially an open brand of the cement
01:14:31
voice yeah the put in all materials from that ballot that i described to you
01:14:36
well that that's in the directory the module the windows i mean there's a simple principles
01:14:41
any light construction this is all gathered i signed it's not stay in this to you
01:14:46
this is a big rules but we didn't need the cat isn't the program with the
01:14:49
adding of dallas you added another space but just listing the rooms are slightly higher up
01:14:54
this area and you gotta get your interesting moderation as a result
01:14:58
and also thinking about how you in bed these back and then how can they
01:15:02
make a difference so loadings on the project we began to work with n. g. o.s
01:15:06
and i think it's it's amazing to see a child like that would be all white socks coming
01:15:10
out of that to go to school and if you look at the average us point it's in
01:15:14
shocking i mean we were talking earlier about doing workshops and out of the and things but this is
01:15:18
the big problem where the un human development report says it's one toilet for thousand four hundred forty people
01:15:25
the bombay municipal corporations as as hundred and forty hit and the aspiration our
01:15:29
target is one is two fifty which is also in passing and shocking because
01:15:34
should be one to six it could see at least one whole family uses it but that means even the aspiration is not to
01:15:39
solve the problem so we started working with spock which isn't in geo that believe that one is do it on their sort of up
01:15:46
uh and we said they were doing three hundred products at the world bank was sponsoring
01:15:50
and they were doing them all over the place of the solo you'd probably know these we said we've done
01:15:55
research let's work with you it was we didn't charge for this it was just all human human that during project
01:16:01
and what we do that with the story it's this is what happens they don't get use basically in a
01:16:05
couple of years no one uses it women and children can't even go and you know that it's highly problematic
01:16:10
and so what we did was we came up with the prototype of an idea what we said we'd use the same
01:16:16
green principle we're developing the pot it's would be stacked the women and children deal up so that they will say fall
01:16:21
we would have the caretakers house there with the community centre on top of that body so that can take up who is
01:16:27
the lowest cost usually because he's cleaning the toilets now gets the penthouse in the building and so he's really on the top
01:16:34
oh and so he gets the best view sort this is gonna social engineering to mention that and children can use it
01:16:40
and then i went to one of my clients and i designed the house for which isn't there in those beautiful images
01:16:45
and i told him the story i made him feel so guilty that he gave me the money for the sort of that
01:16:50
well which uh is not in their specs because what the solar panel does is it takes it off the great
01:16:55
which means children and women can use it at night because the contractor other ways to save money doesn't let the electricity
01:17:01
so this was a very big move and of course we couldn't build maybe try so we did many photoshop images
01:17:06
this one was built up to the blame them to stop the work this
01:17:09
that you can't go for the off uh because they imagine this long will go
01:17:13
uh uh but we know from reality it won't and my argument was even for twenty years
01:17:17
of p. one generation's lights can be more high to make it was important to get fighting this
01:17:22
and so we did number of sites another them got built one we managed would be to go very remotes long
01:17:27
but even felt the government people won't go so we did that that no one sided got done we put the solar panels
01:17:32
to become a space that people are using the government is trying to move people into that housing the one goes that
01:17:38
and it's become a community space this is just bamboo which they can you the solar panels in place and it worked
01:17:45
i mean a lot of problems i want i'm not proud of this is an architectural piece we were limited by the
01:17:50
specs we wandered which fast and we have now been researching and into the competition that you won the first
01:17:56
prize in the open to take for the maybe at that to see how this kind of institution can be indebted
01:18:02
much more into location and how in different location different local materials
01:18:07
can be studied to create different vocabularies which would engage local cops
01:18:11
so that's where we're at and i'm gonna end with this project only because it will put it on the poster i send this
01:18:16
as a joke but he thought this was the best post up this is a project that we've done for elephants and that models
01:18:23
uh this these are our clients they're also among the poorest people
01:18:27
and chapel uh most of the models and the elephant on those on
01:18:31
as an accident of history that given elephants are in jeopardy because
01:18:35
the moguls bottom bit of four seven money and all of that
01:18:39
uh and the state because he's a tropical beans is no reason they should be
01:18:42
in the desert and so this became a bit of a project of advocacy because
01:18:48
the public works department i'm sorry there's a pain to do this because
01:18:52
you know why would they doing this and they did a competition the document
01:18:55
and i think for five architects were uh invited and i think most of
01:18:59
the response i think we want this because our response was one of the
01:19:03
i mean i just set the fundamental problem use water if you don't salt water forget the architecture we could spend time
01:19:08
on the architecture but i knew that was a losing battle it it was a losing battle so we concentrated on the landscape
01:19:15
in five years with governments falling corruption ascending to tighten to resign but it's moving along and i
01:19:20
just quickly share this with you so these anderson's working number depicts to uh the uh of tourists up
01:19:26
they painted in this toxic colours and that's the reason why you see that they have a discovering of this
01:19:32
can which is very sad because it doesn't get like watched it not because they don't have to walk up
01:19:37
and this is the site but got mean give us which was actually a site that sign or
01:19:41
a people had used to take out all the set and so it was really a lot of holes
01:19:47
we saw that is an advantage this is where they live right now really want top the elephants at
01:19:51
the bottom it's terrible because the bonding between the model
01:19:54
and the elephants is a very complex and critical relationship
01:19:58
that to control the elephant it's almost impossible so we
01:20:02
made a landscape project and look at the existing holes and
01:20:05
what we could do with that that was the side when we got it so we focused on where the depressions will
01:20:10
oh and then came up with the site plan and put the
01:20:13
housing on areas that would non consequential it's it became a landscape plan
01:20:17
the added other institutions which wasn't part of the brief but now the government is thinking
01:20:21
of leaving them and then we focused on trying to design what the house might be
01:20:26
it's four hundred square feet per family because it's low cost housing so the challenge was
01:20:30
how do you expand that and so instead of making row housing we created these clusters
01:20:35
uh using to the local school and it was also done with the minimal because it's low cost housing before
01:20:40
let people change these and that bound to change if we don't have the control so the focus really became landscape
01:20:46
and essentially instead of doing houses in the rule we made them back last
01:20:50
as you have a hierarchy of courtyard so you basically make elastic can use
01:20:54
create more shared space so therefore the house actually
01:20:57
doubles by adding all these possibilities away they can add
01:21:01
space and that's what still was excited about using it but that's what site was it is about
01:21:06
and this was an interesting as an image because ever since god likes fact they have to lie on the mound
01:21:11
that's what i always lie down on the market is it can't get up
01:21:14
and so for the small medium large an extra large we had to actually judge
01:21:20
what would be the right levels of the slope for them to be able to comfortable in terms of getting yeah
01:21:25
uh and so what happened was they built all the houses because the public works department is interested in
01:21:31
the architecture that's where you get all the profits of the speaker density back and so they built nothing and
01:21:37
the document itself so they can do anything with the housing it was just like that there was no water but
01:21:42
what when and get no budget for the landscape borders when i talk to the local cost people they told me that
01:21:48
but don't worry just go ahead and make that whole probably costs
01:21:51
nothing because the k. compositions such that in one monsoon it'll harden
01:21:56
you don't need aligning you don't need the budget for it just doesn't happen and we went by doesn't stink
01:22:01
and within them on soon be captured water the elephant started coming from
01:22:05
five kilometres away where they were living to be it there it began to change the topography and so that
01:22:11
was march two thousand and seven that hill and this is what it looks like in two thousand and ten
01:22:16
just the presence of the water that has transformed complete landscape and
01:22:20
the presence of water that has actually uh created not only in ecology
01:22:25
it's created species we've done replanting uh it's changing the atmosphere but this is
01:22:30
the critical thing the bonding between the model can be elephant this social condition
01:22:35
gets talking exaggerated as a result of that because the amount of time they can spend
01:22:40
with the animals in the walk up is what makes that relationship uh actually work
01:22:46
so these up and they come back from what they actually have to walk in
01:22:49
these situations because this is not a drop it to fly but with their indigenous animals
01:22:54
uh and this is what they do a full work of at the on their ballots
01:22:59
so to this weekend the inspiration for number of architects and i'm not
01:23:02
that a number of schemes or about taking the architecture of this which
01:23:06
unless you address the what it was a problem and this was just when the
01:23:09
houses it been built the water oh and now you're beginning to get this and
01:23:14
it's it's evolving in interesting ways because now the cup and sees the possibility so
01:23:18
it actually supporting us uh in the process for the first time in five years
01:23:23
uh i mean should have resigned on this project long ago i don't know what
01:23:26
drove us interest again i think just the goods on four of the oppression in
01:23:30
this in a way that people were using this will uh sort of facing a
01:23:34
and and that's what you see on there which is where they go to work
01:23:38
uh and and of course is the whole landscape that is evolving which we're trying to convince them to behave as is because
01:23:44
i think it would be region itself and just the fact the elephant gun lot lots like that
01:23:48
uh is is is is just a very interesting and not the beginning to occupy these houses are beginning to live here
01:23:55
and what's what's interesting is that again each cluster is evolving differently
01:24:00
uh these little bit rules designed to take all the fall for the elephants to be stored
01:24:05
on top like u. c. l. which also give installations at a low cost way of doing that
01:24:09
but every community is thinking of the cluster differently these guys wanted along
01:24:14
uh and you know different families of doing different things and it'll it'll evolve automatically and
01:24:19
now we're taking that to try to make a visitors centre to bring more attention to it
01:24:23
the government is giving us money not to do the pitching for the next water bodies and the designing it
01:24:28
as wraps so that the elephants can what actually to the water quite easy and so this is the project itself
01:24:34
a bunch of different more stability and will hold the water for much longer but you can
01:24:38
see the amazing consummation oh that's occurring as a result of it and just when you was
01:24:43
exactly two minutes to summarise i'm sorry have gone over
01:24:47
over time but really i i think i'm working in this
01:24:51
condition if one has to learn i think i think that concerns we should not even use the global sought than not
01:24:56
the concern is really the majority was this with a separate set of
01:25:00
issues that as architects i don't think we have enough of an additive about
01:25:03
i think the idea of thinking globally and acting locally obviate many inspirations for this
01:25:09
number of says architects yeah itself but uh uh of how this can be done much more rigorously and i think this
01:25:15
idea of the grand vision was is that and adjustment is
01:25:18
a critical question because i think as the world becomes increasingly global
01:25:22
we have to really be cautious and careful about accepting that
01:25:26
things are growing more like because it begin to look more alike
01:25:31
because when we engage with the deeper excavation of the site on which we operate the locality in which we operate
01:25:37
uh and then we engage an understanding that draws on both the objective realities as well as that
01:25:42
subjective perceptions of the site that there's actually a much more strikingly then before
01:25:49
but differences were actually a short when things look different so this is something that
01:25:54
really be cautious about because even though they're looking the same it's actually getting more if
01:25:58
so i think architects obviously then have to find a more rigorous way of defining the complex emerging
01:26:04
cultural fabric of multiple aspirations especially in places like india which is a mutinous democracy
01:26:11
and more importantly to see this cultural fabric uh something that's ever evolving like i i think one of the other
01:26:18
big sort of red herrings in our discussions of the question of identity identity is not static it's about what we could
01:26:24
about what we've all been architecture plays a big role in evolving this uh in fact in
01:26:28
the words of large end up with the right answer body set culture the dialogue between aspirations
01:26:33
hence sedimentary traditions which i believe you have the ability
01:26:37
to excavate to us productively and to notice what we're doing
01:26:41
and i think that's a decent oppression interpretations is designed as as what helps us make
01:26:47
a a a place which are uh it helps us not h. nourish the place somewhat ideas the future
01:26:53
as much as those ideas about the lost art that we
01:26:56
sort of otherwise obsessed and this highly pluralistic environment especially in the
01:27:00
case of india or my experiences working in in yeah and by
01:27:04
acting requires a planning and design can isn't what is what happened
01:27:09
so that's what excites me that continually negotiate between the difference is
01:27:13
and actually dissipate the binary set the other way setup
01:27:17
i believe there's non productive design instruments so i think that
01:27:22
it is it is it is architecture then can't become the sole instrumental
01:27:26
peacemaking it's a very important instrument but has to embed itself in other process
01:27:31
uh and so then you it becomes a form of resisting the facts that
01:27:36
our one entity can remake and make it really
01:27:40
make an prevail in the making of an environment in
01:27:43
its own image and i think that's what makes working in move by the landscape in the i. e.
01:27:47
and i think once the architects sees these various distances as being
01:27:51
simultaneously valid the simultaneous validity of this is i think we should
01:27:56
the challenge then of course for us if you're setting up a sales up or challenge because how do we go beyond the polar ice bob binder
01:28:02
and i think that's if you can crack that anything can get excited about that if we can develop might and additives around that
01:28:08
i think that's the space that in which we've linkage architecture and
01:28:12
society more generally much more meaningfully thank you very much for attention
01:28:35
uh huh if you agree and we can take some time for questions
01:28:42
somebody has a question in in french could translate it with her and her so
01:28:53
it was very inspirational inmates yeah really strong inspiration um
01:29:00
i i one again think i'm a bit translator a a complete new
01:29:07
for two reasons posts because the like would ingenue speak very very fast
01:29:13
but you speak with a lot of patients so yeah last bastion press bastions sorry
01:29:19
and uh so sink you most phones for your question put
01:29:22
to transmit and therefore the performance of for some tragic translation
01:29:28
and now i welcome you owe or uh to share drink together uh
01:29:33
in front of for um you accuse whom exhibition space i worked a
01:29:37
cushion uses to lupin as well if you want to visit and uh

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