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Round table : How sport can be a driver of the sustainable agenda
Françoise Jaquet, Sarah Hoefflin, Neil Beecroft, Sina Schneider, Nicholas Bornstein
Friday, Sept. 6, 2019 · 10:14 a.m. · 40m 49s
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oh oh oh so we can too
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of a forty five minute shots approximately and during this at the end of this period
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uh we'll take questions from the floor if so i think i'm going to start with snow
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i think xena will speak in german uh
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uh
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special obviously on the stand the questions asked in french but it's easy for her to express itself in german
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so we'll begin with an initial uh uh first exercise first either
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you understand german all you other uh take care headset for the translation
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it's you know you put this uh ice axe embedded in a block
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of wood what is this exactly
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uh_huh
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so to somebody's performance and boards that's a
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an organisation we created this uh i i sex
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as a prize to be awarded to individuals will always in contact with different organise is with
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a different openness is often uh any uh it was fulfilled so this price is handed to those you
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uh i perform an extraordinary way disappointed that encourages people
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to go to the mountains with their uh ideas on on sustainability
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so this is
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a a performance in the area of uh uh the mountains
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so people doing something for the first time something that might be a
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sports in exploratory uh it could be more focused on the on the environment
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so last year the despises one for the first time this is
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someone who you made it two hundred ninety kilometre jenny by bicycle
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and then she climbs mountains should it all of this in a single day
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so this is not just a sporty performance but
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something to raise awareness of the mountains these all performances
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that are strongly which should be a of knowledge unappreciated
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i could also all around people saying you shouldn't more typed it necessary to the
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plane go to canada to climb a mountains but you can also uh do things locally
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so have you noticed so he relies this type
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of action this type of vision has an impact
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on members of the l. point club on
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the way they uh enjoy hiking mountaineering in general
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well this is something which is still module which is still quite new shower things changing
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uh uh uh in terms of this notion of using a uh
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what is she raw egg norm human resources possible to
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climb mountains so yes i think people's awareness it's being raised
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uh there are more more members of the appointed who uh a sensitive
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to these issues we oh oh carol sort of awareness raising campaigns to
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and show the people access nature and respectful way but there's a lotta work still to do
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it's clear that we you can't expect all man but it's to you
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right from the nineties launches a up on the back to
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then re gets the mountains there are uh older people can't do
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extreme uh exports like this but you can take the train and uh uh well
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uh raising oneness of these alternative forms of transport uh is something as important today
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new because i'm going to hand you the mike because i'm going to ask you the following question
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in the world of
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competitive sports
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um we head what sarah i had to say about this and will
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probably talk more about this what is your view of the key trends
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wow
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is uh when it's being raised successfully have you noticed any key changes
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hi hello everyone so what's interesting to see is it sporting events
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um he affects all areas of industries that food
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industries uh all to much ministries construction textiles off
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and once the moment sports seasons change it to
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say that we can not only improve influence in industry
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but also be responsible for communicating for a wide spectrum
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uh of audiences run wild uh to say that the sport has an important role to play
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sports people themselves climate change climate deregulation the climate crisis is the
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biggest challenge we have to face and who better than sports people to
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to pass on the energy to pass on their mindsets desperate of competition and
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it within the sporting movement we can see the sustainability is become more more important
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it's not completely understood in all courses will it's not
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just about waste management it needs to be a cross functional
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cross disciplinary approach with uh uh taking a secular colony intelligibility
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this lots of what's nasty has to be don'ts for this
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to be understood fist to take root operation able for people to
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work actively in these areas and that's the name of the and geo we have a set up to developed all these initiatives
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so we will talk more about the existing solutions but concrete things to happen
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i'll just like to react whatsoever was saying earlier uh_huh so there i
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think she might say to the f. i. s. let's group together competition
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contests and the single location on a single part of the wild for a certain
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period of time and then we'll we we can move on to a different area
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we might have if if you a commission going is his last travel miles a day if you say this to people isn't here
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well at the minute the problem is in my sport that is a very young
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support with very young competitors and that's why it's important to speak to them about this
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because they need to be more athlete should talk at the same time it's
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uh as one about this i i get impression not i'm alone in sense but i'm a little bit isolated and
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this discourse young people love this little kind of luxury
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lifestyle they see it on it is to go and
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i think now this is great taking a plane here and there will ever want to a light say uh
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they want to receive like they want people to look at them as okay here is on social
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media but with the platform i have what i have done is to say that you don't need this
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you don't need to have an huge brand new jacket to be up to ski well for people to like human respect your
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so i would like to say and do them all just to keep trying
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to convince young people young athletes to tell them that right now you don't
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really understand that it's a big problem number in five ten years you will fully comprehend that is too light
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i it we have to react now you have to uh uh recognise that you are part
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of the problem and you can try to speak up and to try and change something that's
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so what difference does it make it for the contest at the same time all of you
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have all the contests time uh if they're all the same place they will still be completed young
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people should not be scared to speak up speak up to confront these issues to say something about
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this do something as paul the concepts together in one location maybe that will make a small change
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nicholas
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yeah i'll uh increasing number of
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concepts competitions races offence and that
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with our organised uh in the mountains in particular in the winter
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yeah should open noises oh dual nicest take into account
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uh these issues can you see the mindset evolving these are young sports the only sport with
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people but people or an animal relatively old what things changing in this uh in this area
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so what we have observed is that the process
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is slow a oneness is being raised very slowly
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but i would talk about the example
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of our a um a swedish result what the
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world championships at places campaign schema chums is to take
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place where the first time i was just sustainability manager which the f. i. s. also understood the necessity for
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this uh or and those to you organisation of luzon with
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a private company which carried out a full life cycle assessment
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to understand where admissions just the high summations we're going to
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be produced and once again it was fascinating to see was that
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visit says oh a county for the lines shit of admissions c. o. two emissions
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so this took place in sweden can imagine lots of people to plan together so there
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is a oneness is being racist taking a long time but i would also say that
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uh this effect on how how sweet in this case was involved in f. i. s. offence
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and just to talk about switzerland available we have
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uh f. i. s. sports people who work with us then
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you'll you'll from values will i'm sure he's seen from angle by
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and they also not try to speak up use the voice to ensure that this organisation a
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really to grab the bull by the horns there's a lot of work still to be done
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that i think uh uh things are heading in the right direction
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see nation ida how
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does the outdoor community what that's what we're going to call it
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how they perceive what you do what interactions you have with it
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people who enjoy mountain activities mountain sports and with
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people who live in the mountains hard you interact
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what discussions you have with them is it's tens of
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these discussions difficult all these dialogue open how or how
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with the people who live in the mountains but also we've outdoor enthusiasts uh
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if
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so just for you regarding your second question
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it's
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so regarding your second question is not as simple
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as no simple and uh uh we're not sure
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scrawny launching these discussions and change these discussions amounts in the well is
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it started with our wilderness project we have three pillars on which we work
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the protection of uh uh the alps the alpine sports and wilderness
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so we can conduct studies of last three is which of focused on
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separating us so it's and designs uh restricting certain sense and nonsense
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to protect them so we have a catalogue of designs will
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serve have a overnight and lots of people who have calmed caesar
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fans people from from the federation's people from the local and is
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people have been very interested nieces lots of potential for conflict however
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we see how you but when no oh
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all bodies organisations want to impose certain things
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on the mountains to fast on and they have vision of what should be
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happening said there's a clash between uh and uh then and announcing or thirties
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but we have had a first insight because we want to understand first of all
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uh what goes through the minds of a mountain but as
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we are people from the cities we consume the mountains we make
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the most of nature of the landscapes we love visiting at the
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weekend to appreciate all these wonderful things that people who live there
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the uh it's live off the mountains it's it's a source of income
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so we took a few decisions
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we want to eliminate a conflicts of
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interest we want to understand that problems and see it
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from that perspective it's so this year we of celebrating ah
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and that's really the issue we transferred our office to the mountains
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and we're going to spend three is in the town of sense more yeah we're going to be working there
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we has established a strong contacts with the municipality we've
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we have organised events for example on files in the mountains we have set up
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uh evening events parties with the
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uh uh inhabitants thereof in uh
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lively discussions but the questions were very direct we asked him what you wanted to do here
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what about issues you face we stayed there for three weeks
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not just for the evenings so these were very fruitful uh
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developments we had a discussion subsequent studies of this a
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three week period we're going to meet again to talk about
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plans projects a joint project some plans for the future
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so dialogue has been uh you initiated i'm going to ask a question to older people
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with us on stage we see a great infuse e. s. n. and real
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development of
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hiking sports weather be on snow shoes whether it be on
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skis a whiskey torrent but also a freestyle freestyle skiing snow boarding
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that country of the skiing
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so there is a uh we have to consider
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major but it's also quite disruptive for wildlife birds
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have all these people and the mountains uh you have to think about this nothing simple in our world
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so what does this uh what would you how would you react to this how do you reconcile this love and nature
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who which drives you when you uh
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enjoy a time markings on the respectful environment
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who would like once a first
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so i think it can be reconciled is we have been raising awareness for many
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years regarding respectful approach mountains or you
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can go into the mountains well respected nature
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we have regular campaigns it's always going on and i think the most of the people who go
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into the mountains as sensitive to this are aware of this because if you go in the mountains
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you can not learn about nature and learn to love nature and if you love it you want to protect it
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it's more uh people really meant truman to people who
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leave the mountains a lead to town to go into mountains as much as possible they want
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to be able to appreciate and nature for some as possible to keep it and preserve it
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so it's about raising awareness of this need to protect them the exact nature there's always going to be people who don't respect it they're going
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to act in a different way but at the alpine flawed by a
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lot of our work involves raising awareness among all members of these issues
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i just wanted to add that for me off when you enjoy these
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different sports equipment uh it's important to note all the equipment you buy
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and all the equipment you use has an ecological impact which is quite significant so when you choose
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to in cajun a new sport if you don't have to use new equipment old equipment works very well
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personally i try to use
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i don't have a brand new clothes uh every two or three years
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if i tear my jacket i fix it that's a message another message i liked to pass on to my followers
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all skis can work just as well as new want you don't have to buy
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brand new snow shoes uh is any to buy new things are all the time
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uh_huh
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yeah we have a cool white striking foe to
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and see that sets a mention is added this dialogue with the monkey
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in communities that are uh anna living from a nonsense or isn't for
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mm announcing based activities today we're seeing the development of electric
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mountain bikes but lots of people will head to the mountains because in fines to religion baskets
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and this was all talk about having fall season for some now and
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this raises the questions and send regarding economic cycle broke so the ecological cycle
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how do you see all this
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so that's a an excellent question because of a a a a
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but as i wrote an article about this very subject i
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have friends who you've launch a new route from somebody to segment
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this gives people the opportunity seats for people who honestly very fit to
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enjoy this route on the bikes and to connect it to the locations
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so now we are asking certain questions should uh been
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dwellers state and the cities should they be equal changes
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for people to access these landscapes what is going to be the impact
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of this landscape on the cycles with transformation people go into nature for
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the for somebody's going to undergo the way it's important to think about
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and the fact that opening these new trials these new routes
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means you have to raise people's awareness of ecological issues and you have
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to involve n. g. o. isn't doing so when you get trained up
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uh by the outline slump to use a chance you have for example but you also need to ads
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training on part of esteemed ecosystem set to an sickly lead your question i would be very much in favour
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if i i uh i hope that one never be a most away like kinetic with terry uh
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between germany and i'm not um but it's it's important the same stand again to develop the trend
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but we need to also uh minimise impact and
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raise awareness sensitive it's refuses and therefore preserve nature
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i just wanted to add something uh on this topic what we did in the yeah the
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it with the u. s. u. zurich we work with the up on top of the university
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yeah
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it's uh
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i'm a member of the alpine club uh and zurich and we any strange but they
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the students tended i need to use the costs are going to nonsense what's uh uh
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and uh this why should could may be encouraged to do something different so we went with them to ensure
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that students you remember the double club uh take the
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train rather than taking a cards and we also raise
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awareness through the mountain guides and each time the mounting guys talk about
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ecological issues and i think it's two things uh go hand in hand
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so without wanting to keep people and pointer finger people you can
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i enjoyed nonsense while learning about the need to protect them or
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yeah
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so just to talk about the image of being sharon uh over the western before the mountain
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bike as a check this for it so when you're at the top of a particular route
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yeah um so this was a nice actually a workshop
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a full mountain bikers
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and we also had a workshop with those you plan for and a layout the trials
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um and you do not see by charles i mean we talked about
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yeah we've we've talked about how mountain biking is
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a sport which is a finding an growing audience
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an sort of from these workshops we
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have a derived information from nazi by 'cause
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who have been talking amounts the setup of the networks us networks of trails uh and
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to talk about what is needed is what needs to be done to counter the increasing number of tours in the summer
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what's important is uh to establish tolerance acceptance to
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have discussions and interaction we don't want to stop
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uh other forms of a transport uh we don't stop picas
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for using certain channels and haven't just amount to much we don't
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i i create conflicts in a sense because is uh this would require e.
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setup i even more trials for each different uh audience
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and there's also the issue of e. bank c. bikes cannot be a are not permitted to be used
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above a certain number of what's two hundred and fifty watts approximately
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and the proportion of e. bikes in the total sales of
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bikes is increasing rapidly and they offer higher and most um resorts
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a where we are there's a fifty fifty split between most rise
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by action on march rice so we have to share the trials
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we need to have a say it's in um so stats and skills to be able to use a and e.
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bike so that could be in exclusion criteria if you're not used to not to mike in is going to be
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uh of difficult if you choose to to get on a trial you that you've managed to get to the top of using any bike
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in semite there are lots of that trails the little
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significant working that's fine but uh and and should we
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concentrate is in is in an area or should we think about how this could be done in all areas
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so before i hand uh
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mike to for for questions should we define
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activity someone's possible activities and and sounds where there's
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mm when activities can be uh no sporting activities can be uh engaged in
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what you cannot hi craig cannot mountain bike without solution would what we stretch and
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b. i. an important tool in the evolution
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of the environmental impact of sport
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i don't think that's a very good solution restrictions on never a good solution
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people like to go to restricted as because they are told they're not allowed to go that so i think it's
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a better to let people go into the mountains and have a low impact
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and to respect the mountains are based on the concept of uh of respect
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but it's restored cinnamon confinement to certain areas and regions not a good solution
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i i i agree a completely
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when you look at the of votes in the summer for new park
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isn't isn't even a as and when the when our company
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for instructions it's just just slightly restricted access this difficult in this
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highly populated country i would be very cautious about such matters or do you uh do you agree uh_huh
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on a uh i'm i'm if i follow fairly liberal uh approach that i think
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if you close the mountains to to visit says you close the doors to awareness raising
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people who go to the mountains uh people who visit the mountains whether
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it's at the point what should take the train was the speech the kinds
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uh the there when this is automatically raised if you can't see nature if you
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can't be in nature it's it's much harder for the message to be passed on
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and we would head towards we nice return to local tours and the local a holiday making
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with a a little utterances that could be benefits from source and i did a favour by diversity
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but which also favour the behavioural change them
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okay
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so um main focus is to raise people's awareness
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and not more important than to try and restrict what people can do
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that's what we do and what we uh the uh uh approach we
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supported through various actions involving various uh uh audiences you enjoy the mountains
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uh_huh uh well i don't quite agree i think people
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generally need to to have certain restrictions that doesn't mean
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the having certain restricted designs doesn't mean you closing the doors to them the entire mountain it means
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having certain design for such really protected these areas exist in
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national park for example you not not to ski national park
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and i think that's something that's good to be able to uh
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leave habitats untouched uh uh let's see if i have i i. e.
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people don't always have to go and if you want life on clark's and
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they can appreciate it without having to trample on top of it is but
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when you give people an inch they take a mile and you need to
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uh people always going to push the boundaries of
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what they're not today so telling people uh and that
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they cannot do certain things i as has to be done sometimes to to restrict their audits sometimes say
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in certain zones if you uh if you see uh you
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can now receive signet confines uh uh so yes is not
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a consideration there are restricted areas when you're allowed to go down a cool if you want where where every
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uh the area is restricted to allow certain species to
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survive through the winter so it's not necessarily is uh
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irreconcilable you can have access through a restricted area but it
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the access point needs to be restricted needs to be respected and i think people going to the mountains uh e.
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a vast majority uh focused on protecting the environment so we're gonna have a few minutes
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to answer any questions the audience might have
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i'm going to hum i'm a mark for now to the floor so that you can use if the questions are
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uh_huh uh_huh why there is a sharp but use rate here a lady of over
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oh i don't really like to poke presentation
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oh i put yours made a lot
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waited to plant sorter billions the mountains here
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uh the circuit for a car
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if uh are those cattle on a a a a
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pastor of it's actually good uh for the slow
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because just no ah stays put so you shouldn't actually
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uh could you saw is a meat eating
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uh also all o. or we made a or
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tourists from all over the world the close you will be here today if we didn't have his excuse
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so all whether one the phase remember doesn't take
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the plate that's a bit strange i think or
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how also well you to shape a half pipe oh it takes hours and hours
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of of a machine work so what about if you did it yourselves with the shore
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okay well thank you for call them to carl we actually talked about it for a long time
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oh oh
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we had a roll call project with regards to food what was local have vegetarian
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oh oh who the jurors to that with regards to what's the best ah are
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local cultivated needs to be now had courage to
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do it here true how the tag that huh
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i think we have a board global uh issue here
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and the it industry wise camper is
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close to the great quantity of neat
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yeah that is incredible in switzerland or three or four times war but
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what is the just heard what is good for that a lot of it
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so who gets the study that was published last spring
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from our objective is a lot to stop eating late lot
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just top how are put to use it to um to this the idea is what kind of meat
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are you gonna eat what kind of me do you need to leave a healthy life so
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it's two different messages loves or
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if you took it personally ah howell
00:32:37
uh_huh oh i oh i hope that you have to start better are or where this work
00:32:44
we're not here to forbid people to eat it but i'm just like that where
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of other consequences
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uh_huh
00:32:56
the babies are could actually come up to the third probably quite
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ah the number of mushy there as the
00:33:04
digital shapes lobe of part is that crop production
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uh_huh
00:33:12
wow
00:33:14
while those or a lot of contradictions and i agree with you that
00:33:17
the l. o. hit every shooter is all dated a shape half pipes
00:33:22
but it's the same thing to group the you know all the slopes huh
00:33:28
uh_huh
00:33:30
the thing is
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you cannot actually d. but they show all to all of plates on the house but ship the slopes themselves
00:33:42
but i don't think it's a good message because nobody
00:33:45
will wish to give up case board of especially professionals uh
00:33:53
for the sake of sustainability
00:33:56
so yes we use heavy machinery well i uh are yeah we groom
00:34:01
uh slopes yeah why uh maybe it all solutions maybe uh even ships
00:34:08
uh_huh okay that's great it's true that with um the but we actually looked uh to uh
00:34:16
machines the the peace and does that was ah uh to uh
00:34:25
first we have to train the pilots you
00:34:28
know how you actually drive you know you wish
00:34:33
and the the hybrid the ship well they
00:34:37
have a limited uh i liked but oh
00:34:41
most important is to do the three g. p. s. senses
00:34:47
because the the actually tell you where are also is they don't
00:34:53
so that is the the starter that they have not about oswald costs yet but are
00:34:59
the had had a significant reduction reduction
00:35:06
so that actually is pretty good
00:35:13
one
00:35:16
uh_huh uh what about a region yeah to true as the days go
00:35:22
mm
00:35:27
oh it seems to be a reality uh_huh ah ah it's
00:35:31
true that locals tourism local tourism is not going to be enough
00:35:40
uh_huh uh_huh used through the uh huh
00:35:44
a swiss people however o. z. to be skateboards with that
00:35:53
yeah uh
00:35:56
uh_huh
00:35:59
thank you for all your actions and congratulations but uh
00:36:05
oh what about their relationship with god
00:36:09
locals people who are full live it about
00:36:16
the work true like someone to
00:36:19
to live off the lab and ah
00:36:26
but it seems that we are only talk a
00:36:29
lot i yeah turn or our financial or adults
00:36:34
all all produce more eat all make all
00:36:42
in order to bring more people or so that's the business uh
00:36:49
uh approach um i think it's a contradiction in terms were to
00:36:54
uh the quietness that you wish to well
00:36:57
but that's the respect for nature of that
00:37:02
to reach back to of creation up so here we have a a
00:37:08
very important contradictions so we need
00:37:10
to turn our heads our head sideways
00:37:16
it is a lot profitable to a date
00:37:22
sure is not profitable but it sure is priceless
00:37:27
so maybe you should think about it in such a way
00:37:35
um and so you are priceless but there is a cost silence has a
00:37:40
cost quite has has a cost but ever thing that can be a pistol
00:37:47
to generate results
00:37:50
use the the uh seasons of chinese people are coming in droves
00:37:55
while white become because you asked selling them that possibility will
00:38:03
well that will be the last question uh indeed
00:38:10
who do we share huge our codebook all will uh this see things differently
00:38:20
uh_huh uh uh how do we live in the mountains is the key question
00:38:34
we in the dark encouraging uh_huh e.
00:38:40
a drive for added value which is not only financial
00:38:48
but uh also wore big who who what we live
00:38:58
the d. i. dear he's a lot to something
00:39:04
quickly to reach to lunch at all are one of
00:39:08
the uh the because of the day after uh that good work the of the third to um or
00:39:16
the hard here is to build some things that is sustainable
00:39:22
our actual people stay over for three day is uh
00:39:27
the uh_huh so that they can actually cups you locally
00:39:32
that's you discuss sponsored a approach
00:39:37
uh uh it's uh uh was aiming at protecting
00:39:40
the landscape uh but the bridge was built and
00:39:46
the you just call label arm was actually the lot awarded
00:39:51
so it is for its overboard with low ball
00:39:57
approach
00:39:59
if you transform the mouse and into a
00:40:03
war does the pork oh it's not there's
00:40:07
other good idea you know we don't necessarily need that to attract a tourist i think
00:40:13
the fewer tried them through peace and quiet
00:40:17
there's some some them up to a uh
00:40:20
now pike club hot out there will i'll feel much better that it a five star hotel
00:40:25
well there's a lot of things that nature or or how has to offer and i think that's the way to do it thank you
00:40:36
that you've was was the those are uh offline when it was being no real big rubber
