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Friday, Sept. 6, 2019 · 4:32 p.m. · 43m 44s
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yes people know it here who
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who uh where are reaching the yeah but nah the
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they ooh
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we are going to to work but now you've contributed
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when you hear the relations you have very much to you
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oh yeah yeah what age of the fall workshops e.
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so let me look at the program you you you you know i think while they're years too
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rather than five fifty or so or that it's we uh if you forget
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it's you you you need a it's true yeah that's for work so who
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with one and that would be that it's i
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don't know what you so worked up by workshop
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we'll set us they
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you were 'cause that's to me that it is still
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we've
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each of the ideas that was with me
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i will write down it'll be our
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now do you
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e.
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when it is you
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star
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yea circular occurred away and tourism
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uh what what what's i um i believe you
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weren't i host e.
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new one you need one
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uh
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uh_huh
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with the topic unethical reckon i mean and they're there and
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use of paris sources interest and and there before and we built up to a or b. split
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up the topic into three main parts that that be backed down and that we had presentations on
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here and there each yeah the first is that important up the region into activities
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and this and that you attracted people to come here and now it's it's a perched very important part
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a second you have a hostility and you need to be able to
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and post the tourist in your eye regional in your eye
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community and third is their food and then the restoration part so
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and i think from our point of view it's very important to
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address the three of them together because they're also and somehow into collected
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and if you want to get the right tourist they want to have people ask you all three things
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so on the region and we actually very happy to i
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have had them very very different usenet three hundred sixty project that's
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close here and there and he thought that a little bit about the and the development of to the region
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and i think it's very important to us as well and the collaboration and how
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you have to work with the local community in order to have it as sustainable
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dan and we had then i'm attempting from e. h. l. that represented on that and
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next generation of heartily at and what's important actually in that building down
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and putting them already uh and i just enable mindset in the hat
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and i think it's also very important to think about the cultural aspect
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off to hop it's because up here is that you and attract here
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and third and get a project there from character that then
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and pretended bible in downey and and they're helping actually to
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reduce food waste by measuring the quantity said that you throw away
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and they they l. p. to actually also take matt nash's and an and reduce the ways
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so i think it said uh until reaching into usenet korean take the project
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so i think what you thought with all the three
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topics it's an very important is that you and approached it
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did the whole problem and uh i had a question from a
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large devil activation and that you um work on it that broadly
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and also that you and then it you can measure what you want to and to change
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and follow it out so you can and i see if you're on the right track or not
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and i think it's also very important to have a a good partners in that support
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of the local community in work to get a bit people i think it is very important
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i think another point that came up a lot but uh let it then back to steer clear economy are the economy
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in channel like a various the boundary and uh how do
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we actually take into account every frame from production to disposal
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and a how do we actually measure our economic value because nowadays
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the problem is that mostly on your part of this is then
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is mash it and then uh things like green washing can happen
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well i think that's the most important point and i get back to you here
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oh okay great so well thank you very much some well um so we know not shell
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you have to have a local project in this ah here we have the ease move wasn't
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wasn't project with three sixty which is you know
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doing something with the ease no part of it
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we don't know with the all right now i'll call waiting
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solution for for for it or mechanical accents oh a sustainable mindset
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and reduce the food waste and we you have to have a measurable
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project should be able to measure things with the support of local community and
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this cycle production disposal is very important that these these are up
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okay well it's the right okay to this this
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will road map for a a circular economy tourism
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excellent thank you very much um but no meadow fancy
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who would do the m. o. would do the map and you would they put uh that uh uh
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well i would like to ask you know all of
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work for the one who huh sustainable knowledge that biodiversity
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whereas actually uh_huh or by word of mouth
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uh_huh uh_huh uh_huh uh with the example of how to uh get it
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uh_huh
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uh_huh
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um
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uh_huh
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i take a little bit yeah i got a uh
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he that let's welcome
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chris
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one of our partners from the grizzled is
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and jessica had that holden
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who has been working a formalised
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uh yes while he should for showcasing
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get the
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i'm bart
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the idea of what has to take what we couldn't from that as as you
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what words takes a what can be transposed
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here e. fill out where art setting up
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the in association
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fall concrete projects hero invoke l.
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ah keeps uh here it go represent fifteen towns
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this is um now is my clique working with me
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e. e. s. she's in charge of the actually
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and i didn't shock stuff i lead
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yeah but i work a lot on the logistics of the association
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yeah
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since two thousand to three
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there are twenty four what relationships which ah hey the ups
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okay
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what
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globally doing those workshop a a
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we realised the sustainable development covers
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three sectors gotta raise its biodiversity that's also i would tackle them altogether
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we looked at the project and one that
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we lost by the way is a code management
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project ah there's a little hole breathe
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cab or a ladylike believe it's called
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and they are going to get paid pastures
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uh oh that code is going to become a local product
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and i'm sure you've actually taste that low product
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you know is it exported as well it's it's all
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products of something small herd so at least one cory
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physics portable so we talked whether it was possible
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to actually have such a project with local oh
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goes or do we need the pastures to be but today to to be the
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local food products probably so we're going to work on such a broad
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also we talked about networking what capsule products
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how should we work together i think they
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are all the products of it reaches the accent
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that is what issue here that sounds interesting but maybe we could develop it that lot scale
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then we talked about preventing valued shape former ah would
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just run for that would've destroyed
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we talked about the proportion of sustainable tourism
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we work with copies that's too
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that volunteer for local non violently at least uh works
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for example recovery wall logging trees
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oh the problem here with just like us you know globally little companies will tell
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you what allows as an adult twenty minutes away you know it's kind of hard trouble
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and video and sometimes you hear that i'm sure it is a little half hours
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so perception of distance type is one thing
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e. e.
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i'm also from ecological part of you we have to review to
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buy revival i saw it uh then bought so back to michael's
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how does a lot of uh we it's that eight to p. o.
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i called so if you don't do it regularly you'd find a
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solution so maybe she but goats huh you know could be a solution
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the little you have actually comes
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the head of uh the off to just cleaned up the pastures
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signed up for a lot of those only through channels
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oh
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ah okay um there's actually a second she
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t. e. s. because we had two subgroups
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oh yeah
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we need to bring the this to the
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attention of kids and especially you uh gardening
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we go from three hundred meters of addition to this without a leash
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twentieth fall was sent off for wired specials
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a national parties but should stop presents quite here
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um so what sort of gardening converter
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uh the the schools could be responsible
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for now but you sure did expressions thought
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and they see a that's actually the global heritage that can be a worked on
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they might get data the actually uh uh worked huh
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i fly r. o. luggage area a
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coalition or that um people get a
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forrest about colours
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and it is important for people to read just a
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portions of them on it for the the complete
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okay data eh i have biodiversity days eh are gonna ah yes
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one commands so a lot of things possible ah we
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air of uh uh early trials uh that exist or
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uh we all all those also other interesting trial
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and also the our remote forty six which is you know the uh
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the trail that goes around the for jim helps he's he's a great solution
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so we are hoping for the regional association
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to uh
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explain to people uh what grows along the trials
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and one to conclude just love we share a few words with through
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we all all the sampling uh what is this sir
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for this assertion the statutes are ready to be published
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earlier for we will um actually
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with the logo hands and we hope to richland lounge decision before christmas yeah
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with the private an act of fish a little
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well yeah the action plan that is being drafted
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and that will allow players to see the sun
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just yeah just uh and uh our list of specifications
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a a is rather should fit dish
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there's a with a lot of uh
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we have a few projects these your dog
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we oh i want to make sure that they are cool projects of the us it through
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and with you lecture we're hoping for more concrete projects
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thank you very much for time oh yeah but uh
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for what works for you and then have more um three hundred you know how big your
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uh just one o. or to the what next workshop
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i was just talk a good uh
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very happy a uh of the development of what to write good either
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but when you all thought it labelled it just says you should like the one that
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bird uh it's more difficult to uh
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to have access to finance
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uh_huh
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okay third workshop uh energy poker
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yeah
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mm it's the function to who's going to
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share with us ah what option of birth we talked about
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before doing so not sure that i don't witter do three years ago
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eh
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easter cave uh came to present the magic pass
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and somebody said okay that's mice but
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you're going to generate more traffic will
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so in fact don't be counter or um productive
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so i was a doberman hand high suggested
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to have a good energy production process on
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removes off the ski lift on buildings
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so we're testing days
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and we're hoping by next year
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oh actually offset some of the c. u. two generated by visitors
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and i actually on that will be available for cell or
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uh with regards to the third
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workshop is the role playing game
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work work together
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the off we conditions we to fine technical solution
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actually have access to
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those conditions to take take a way to find the finance
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uh most of the solutions how profitable so it's great
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that also gave
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ah has an idea
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and if you need to really you know i can make
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to match three phone calls i'll find you those ten really
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obviously it needs to be a good project
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uh uh uh
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and then the third condition is to decide to do things and it's you and me a the
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decision maker the back that you're and so on so the problem when it comes to this you may
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understand what isn't stage so it is no not actually
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difficult sometimes to uh
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to where the mantle of the other
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where the cloak of the other uh so
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that's
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stick to look at it do from different angles why are we
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energy program
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had fish
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idea is that we play to find solutions though
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h. two teams played yeah indeed we
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uh therefore for projects were to the
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we had a problem with uh the time tour
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a few judges building you it's hard to
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uh people would e. d. for to to
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to have a their grandmother move to smaller hands
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it's true that ah we you'd
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you apart
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house
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but another problem based learning
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the bottom of the last twenty years well okay right
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because of this
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uh so it's not so easy
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but a lot of people actually live out there or so that's what that our clothing
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sorry towards
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e. uh uh the um play with kids
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do you like that where off the different problems
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uh_huh
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obviously kids are not it's not a a
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ah experts but uh they're great drivers are well the and
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well and as an adult you know huge volt ah the project uh
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now that has been referred by hid a if you're the father that could you couldn't vote one
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uh the m. o.
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who tried to spend less time um another shower
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and uh you know a few is fat five rather
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than ten minutes later show our uh the the the
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or couldn't read
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uh okay eh eh me what
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about begging for trying to get one
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for somebody to get used to ride the train
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uh
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you know just try once a while at uh let's not go into the g. s. t. e.
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when the last one was uh uh stores locally
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the
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e. it is true that my uh like that
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ballard
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oh but
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okay
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eh for good to action
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it's it's
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uh
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by local g. s. m.
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well the i love you well if it works e. why should you were good
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maybe this site
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her grandmother or law school but reseller
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a good year
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oh i've heard it was
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based on the fact that cooking for whatever for for the
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was the sort of energy now you would save if you invite others to uh
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that that ah heating
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what's
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the year um would work together to fire
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captured on bob and
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the
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uh maybe if you're doing or what
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don't judge that the uh for them or
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or was one for the the uh we
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mission renovate altogether
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a very often what you want to run richer hell's wrong all over there
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you have contractors you know that the yeah true help you
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but if you have somebody who
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a soldier that
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uh_huh
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uh_huh
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uh somebody to project becomes a mortar sergeant how do you
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know the loan alright thank you very much thanks for your call
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let's see that ah
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uh some of what you mention
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corresponds to what has been
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and talked about her the day
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and uh the there are some
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ideas that uh it it can't be
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the shower or
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use the temperature about
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well what are the issues of one percent of or buildings
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it's or it's it should be ten percent
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that's why a lot of
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going more that's that are difficult uh oh
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you know
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it's a it's something that should i uh i don't know about that
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just if um
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the what the fourth one shot that i don't know it's gonna
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form than a push and so how some principle happen with the popular
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e. o. junior people oh it up oh but nucleus go
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oh so this next e. workshop on the on the
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topic of sustainable finance which is the female next use form
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mm kay and
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up up up up up up up
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oh
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oh oh oh oh oh oh so uh
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uh_huh
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the next year be a moving mountains form will have to
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last three days because we have generated so many good yes
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um i don't think it's a bad idea to so we
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first we structure our workshop into a four different theme groups
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uh the first one is obviously a investment objects so that you have a clear idea of
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what do we need finance for and it and it is important
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to separate your holy up a. m. is important to to see
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oh yeah i like that that's that's excellent or so
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actually actually what we get
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um so the first thing is the first thing we need to consider is
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and new companies young companies that with the with the unique
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technology uh they need financing they need investment so that is want separate
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group that typically it uh acquitted that comes from a venture capital from similar
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uh and the other group is still everything that goes with on their infrastructure
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um that can be power generation equipment of any size
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i'm from a small ford will take rooftop to a um a a major hydro plant
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um it is important to also or not just generating a capacity but uh also
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a great and district heating networks water
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supply potable water um any kind of infrastructure
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a very important in particular in the in the context of energy
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efficiency is the whole restructuring i think a force for the mention it
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that's what we do in in the round table this morning i'm only one percent off the built
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uh switzerland is it a restructured per year
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uh that is a catastrophe does a lot to be
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down there um and creative financing can help a lot
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um micro grits may come up with the
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uh energy transition with the new technologies being deployed
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uh and what i mean complex the the whole thing is not complex
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it's relatively simple but there are many projects that in themselves by themselves
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or or complex because um they may
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include a part of a community um with
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uh individual generation capacity you can just put it down
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oh yeah i was um that have just by themselves a
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complex structure because the maybe measures of uh for the energy efficiency
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um it may you include some infrastructure and a investment
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so what the stakeholders um the stakeholders not in order
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of priority just as we generated them in the brainstorming way
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is obviously just the local population to have to live with it they have to take advantage of it
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um there are people who develop such project to have ideas will push them forward
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uh they have to find somebody who owns it and then the third group definitely
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is the supply us they yeah they have interests the they want to keep audio equipment
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um the whole thing needs to be finance that's why we had the workshop um so we need investors
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ah uh important criteria come from consumers uh maybe i
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part of the consumers or the tourists up at the end but
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they are very special group because they're not not necessarily local um hum
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or do we have authorities who were uh mm may
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i impose limitations also mm criteria um in in the building
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we have local business who have interests that um you know because it
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the whole same generates more called a customer flow or because they want to supply
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um and we have the n. g. o.s um uh advocacy groups that
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may favour or a more or less sometimes there are resistance
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okay so um source's off sources off
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finance and their criteria um the source
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is obviously for the first group for the startup companies and a compromise young companies
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good i'll i'll be done um the coal companies that them all into growth
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and expansion phase that's a venture capital private equity um we have a obviously banks
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uh we have grounds incentives from a
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garments we have one possibility that to
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is even in switzerland which is kind of conservative is increasingly popular scott funding
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um we have investments by the uh uh do
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public investment so by you by e. but communities
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we have corporates that does not necessarily have to be a
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utility but utilities uh are prone to that and then we have
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false of any size um that are specified for that and pension funds now
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the criteria for that to general criteria for an investor is risk and return
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um return isn't really easy to measure uh mm
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it includes the business model risk is not so easy to define
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um and it can have some soft in inclusions like a
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sustainable criteria that uh oh may come up in the future
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and uh uh just as an example you know the whole discussion about micro plastic is
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something that just came up in the last two years just wasn't wasn't the topic before
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um reputation all risks if something goes wrong i mean uh uh look at the
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um monsanto is a military popular today
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oh i don't know it by heart i need to read um the the the the regulator to um to um them
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the climate and the um environmental risks that may be considered
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in the future um on the individual on the individual uh
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criteria uh almost a venture capital of the uh uh the
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c. t. something unique something that nobody else has come up with
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banks banks or very conservatively you they want safe uh uh
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deployment of miami uh they like leverage label which means you need to
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have a considerable amount of money yourself before you get something from them
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um crowd forming you need story a story is something e.
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e. whatever project you want to sell you always have to have
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a good story isn't um okay uh uh public investments you
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want to have a long term benefit to the to the community
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corporates corporates are seeking innovation um something that
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develops their business so it has it has to fit into their uh traditional business fonts
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um you know if if you manage to found a with one billion uh on the management
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you cannot start investing in projects of fifty or a
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hundred thousand because that would just kill then you need to
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go to smaller fonts specified for that so these are
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the criteria it up and then the last one and all
00:37:41
i i'm fully aware that i'm between you and the operate if so the role of the regulator as
00:37:47
the last one i um and again uh that france
00:37:51
will be you have already mentioned it to today before
00:37:55
uh the the fundamental thing is the regulator has to than
00:38:00
that technology's just get them out of the way they forget
00:38:05
um e. it is on popular to do it but we've
00:38:08
done it several times before i just think of on let it
00:38:13
um they did gasoline uh people so what are our it
00:38:16
within one day you change the whole infrastructure off gas stations
00:38:21
did anybody experience a problem well just changed okay um okay so the regulator the regulator
00:38:28
has come to a lot by you defining standards that a certain technologies have to fulfil
00:38:34
like clean air act or something like that um
00:38:38
they can they can help new technologies with incentives
00:38:43
or they can hinder that technologist with
00:38:47
this incentives disincentives like a carbon tax
00:38:51
um you know they don't regulate this regulators are generally
00:38:57
on the pressure to be technology agnostic technology neutral um
00:39:04
oh that is fine as long as every technology
00:39:10
there is the whole cost it creates including the external
00:39:15
calls for this is the internal isolation of the external cost
00:39:20
um hum gone once can do you risk uh in particular
00:39:25
when new technologies have to find a way on the market
00:39:29
um i just like to mention to you that technology fund that this was common test set up
00:39:35
when the uh the um uh any private land there can have his loan
00:39:42
secured with the uh comment from the uh by the the that will go
00:39:48
um and the last point when uh the regulator has a lot of influence is uh with the public procurement
00:39:55
given a chance to new technology that would face major obstacles
00:40:01
uh before it is known that's the opportunity where the uh
00:40:06
regulator can help a new technology make its way into the mark thank you very much doing excellent flip chart
00:40:19
you know a a word jenny
00:40:27
sorry thank you jenny for this presentation so there's a lot
00:40:31
of work for next year that's for sure but they're all solutions
00:40:37
okay oh investors europe repent for the money and when
00:40:41
i'm office that were interesting conditions coming in play in
00:40:45
coming into place you have the e. f. g. environment
00:40:49
so ah i. e. s. g. one of social governments around
00:40:55
uh initiative many investors oh oh joint forces of this uh are you getting
00:41:00
on board we talked on pension funds also tension phones are desperately looking for
00:41:06
uh profitability to to try and finance our pensions
00:41:12
and within these projects property which can be found
00:41:17
it's all good technical but he's not elements we must put together together and next year
00:41:24
we're going to try and and match uh uh uh projects wave investments sir
00:41:33
thank you very much for all of you virtually for taking part in history
00:41:39
we again to ah fall fall is on the with the javelin for example we can too
00:41:46
ike or conduct a concrete projects with protect someone says is
00:41:52
not three sixty also we have lots of ideas lots of energy
00:41:57
does your new ball or uh yeah to the fall and which will just give us a springboard for next chase
00:42:05
project so basically and the all of the uh if you
00:42:09
show parts of this a if moving nonsensical village for um
00:42:15
but just after the drinks that were followed is we will have the icing on the cake of that day
00:42:22
which will be a control project each
00:42:25
yeah we support through mike leigh brushes foundation
00:42:30
here it really wasn't feeling well enough to be with us in the form to fit fit for
00:42:35
we are supporting eight control project we had the sculpture we had the neural
00:42:42
unknown little chalet you have uh not far from here
00:42:47
here we decide to have a musical project for supporting
00:42:51
the school project and it's a group from from formats
00:42:55
a group from mountain musicians we after a young people expand its cold winters home
00:43:02
and a of fairy in through the idea of perfection i
00:43:05
went off and they're going to play h. inclusive config here
00:43:11
we're going to let them set up ah do a sound check and in one
00:43:15
and a half hours they will be ready to play the concept here so please
00:43:21
then one of the songs will serve as the basis uh with a with a musical illustration for our form on
00:43:28
the website they would generous enough to give us a snippet of in your argument for this purpose thank you very much
00:43:36
and i hope to see you not only at drinks at the
Conference Program
Welcoming address by the Municipality of Ormont-Dessus
Eric Liechti
Sept. 6, 2019 · 9:48 a.m.
Opening of the 8th edition: "Mountains move, move us, move themselves... our role, our mission, our identity. "
Thierry Meyer, president of the Ecovillages Association
Sept. 6, 2019 · 9:53 a.m.
Inspiration. Protect our Winters
Nicholas Bornstein & Sarah Hoefflin
Sept. 6, 2019 · 9:59 a.m.
Round table : How sport can be a driver of the sustainable agenda
Françoise Jaquet, Sarah Hoefflin, Neil Beecroft, Sina Schneider, Nicholas Bornstein
Sept. 6, 2019 · 10:14 a.m.
CE2, Circular Economy Entrepreneurs: here we go!
Cornelia Giger, Adèle Thorens, Corinne Feuz
Sept. 6, 2019 · 10:55 a.m.
A solar park on a mountain lake
Guillaume Fuchs
Sept. 6, 2019 · 11:46 a.m.
Round table : How to bring the energy transition to altitude?
Florence Schmidt, Martin Senn, François Vuille
Sept. 6, 2019 · 12:03 p.m.
Round table : Sharing knowledge, between simplicity and complexity
Olivier Dessibourg, Pascal Kober, Emmanuel Reynard, Frédéric Fournier
Sept. 6, 2019 · 1:50 p.m.
Questions about the project "On a mission"
Frédéric Fournier
Sept. 6, 2019 · 2:40 p.m.
The DiabLab project - Introduction
Eric Liechti
Sept. 6, 2019 · 2:47 p.m.
The DiabLab project. Towards sustainable public lighting
Guillaume Fuchs
Sept. 6, 2019 · 2:51 p.m.
Destination circular economy: how tourism can become more resource-efficient – a CE2 Lab - Projet Isenau 360°
Thierry Weber
Sept. 6, 2019 · 3:15 p.m.
Destination circular economy: how tourism can become more resource-efficient – a CE2 Lab - EHL
Noémie Danthine
Sept. 6, 2019 · 3:27 p.m.
Destination circular economy: how tourism can become more resource-efficient – a CE2 Lab - Kitro
William Downey
Sept. 6, 2019 · 3:35 p.m.
Destination circular economy: how tourism can become more resource-efficient – a CE2 Lab - Synthesis
Thierry Weber, Noémie Danthine, William Downey, Samuel Kilchenmann
Sept. 6, 2019 · 4:12 p.m.
Synthesis and rendering of the workshops in plenary session
Panel
Sept. 6, 2019 · 4:32 p.m.
Recommended talks
Synthèse et rendu des ateliers en séance plénière
Panel
Sept. 6, 2019 · 4:32 p.m.
Point de situation sur la stratégie énergétique 2050
Benoit Revaz, Directeur de l’OFEN
Oct. 4, 2023 · 8:43 a.m.
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