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Designing pathways to success – part kaleidoscope, part microscope
Jason GULBIN, Designing pathways to success – part kaleidoscope, part microscope
Thursday, Sept. 21, 2017 · 1:53 p.m. · 22m 24s
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good afternoon everybody uh in the strategy we used to bring your um bottles of wonder restaurants so i yeah
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um song you to try asking so uh the uh introduction bars
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and also thanks for extended the invitation to come to
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mon true of course uh a microphone the longest because how could you not
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accept an invitation to come to this beautiful part of the world
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so now it's time to switch from portuguese english to stride in english
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uh so again difficult for you i'm sure but let's see how we got so
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i guess my perspective about um uh
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designing successful actually passed twice a
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requires us to really look at it through two different lenses
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so the first lanes is really establishing evidence and the d.
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tells a and the interventions associated uh with developments
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uh you know we got a few maybe speak is to have the next to die to talk about
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a very detailed information about uh an ideology of injury
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a bouncy loads and nutritional balance a channel
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identification coaching in here to get spectra
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but the sign time we also need to take that big each of you
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and and this analogy that the kaleidoscope we need to bring always pixels in colours
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to get a you know latch creature to see the overall uh effect so
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i think with beyond discussing these monotonic elements of development
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you know i don't know that you better get pretty tired listening to the only thing about
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development is training hours or ten thousand hours i think we can be be on that
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and that we must look the myriad of factors and careless which affect a development
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so if we're talking that part twice it's helpful to have some sort of a round definition
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about half wise but actually in the talent development literature there's not really a good
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clear definition of what the apostle a. e. so um i guess for the purpose of this presentation
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um it from our perspective once again if we look at all of those colours they're representing
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all the myriad of factors that need to come together in order for an athlete develop
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what we're trying to do is to basically fallen this a navigational read along to that we can
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kind of follow in order to increase the probability is of us achieve peace out concert
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it's manufacturing sequence of experiences to optimised high performance potential
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so uh like this before probably administrator or cornet or national
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federation had you actually got detriment to do this
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well one thing is for certain that a competition haas
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why is not an athlete development halfway so
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when i speak to many national federations if you ask them play show handy
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your views on f. lee development your philosophy and also your plan i'll show you these
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and what will they will be this progressive increase from junior
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competition up different levels right up to saying your competition
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uh but of course i think is a pyramidal thinking uh has uh
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you know being um well remarked upon and i think a lot this committee that
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really this pyramid talk approach lacks any sustained in harry call well conceptual integrity
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so just to reinforce point if you use yeah we did a study with two
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hundred and fifty six hop performance athletes in this trial yeah and we chatted
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the performance trajectories three d. j. junior and senior competition experiences
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and you can see here yeah is incredible variation in individual variability here and uh
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um you can say that this linear approach uh uh which is what previous uh pyramids kind
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of show is actually quite a race thing so for example if we look yeah
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this is the signs starting but if you look at one half late so it the two athletes erase bodies rowing
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so the first effort he began rolling at thirty eight is an i. d.s light up
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i will uh i want to reach senior international level for strata
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but this was a ripoff why and he several percent actually follow this very linear trajectory
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and you um compare that with the second half late starter roughly the
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cyanide also took i used to reach international success so international representation
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and and you can say that it's it's really she usually
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period so f. i. part twice a hugely a variable
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so instead of putting down a triangle about competition levels
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let's try to be a little bit more developed
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and think about some all keep our flight elements the
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relative and important for each level of development
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so as an example you have for age level of development we're
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getting the levels light uh but they should be clear goals
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you should be very clear that the content uh they chew i'm to a
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producer all that you want star of physical physiological psychological technical tactical
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that will come scored knowledge you actually require athletes to reach an age level
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how you going to uh to point those development methods so through
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training okay it's a competitions of course you know competitions
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ah a portly stakeholders that you know the
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federation's parents the schools the clubs
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and so on by all contribute to the development of athletes and often
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we don't really pay attention to the overall student development parts while
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we from ross next that haven't already but it's very important to have a
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new recruit talent you identified talent and also how you select it
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hopefully based on some a clique criteria that national federations thought about and put yeah
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but also you know had he planned on transitioning your affluence
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at each corner of level so think about what to do i need now what will line the next
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because you know your x. factor for your sporting a many value add elements that you might why yeah
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three development through sports on sports medicine richer research and development
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what value asian monitoring and management so this is kind of
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getting a little bit more in the long looking for
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okay i'm in the r. s. c. put at a consensus that the not so long ago
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and it's a very powerful statement and it was uh put together by next but a
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group you know notice it a secret law is here to come seeking to them
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g. o. s.'s at a um and so this this piece of work
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is actually almost biblical in terms of its impact um we
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should all much stop and really think about this client of recommendation
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as provided by a such a i never got a committee
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um what this expert group did was basically that value why did the current state of silence
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and uh and practised within youth athletic development and then i did a great series of uh recommendations
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the recommendation was very important from our perspective was this
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one and we ought to adopt viable evidence
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informed inclusive frameworks of leslie development the flexible is
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based practised elements four inch developmental level
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we in bryce individual effort progression and of course we probe
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to respond to the f. eight respective and these
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so i don't know how many federations would know that this recommendation ages
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uh for more discussion with many federations is very few and i certainly have absolutely no idea had been put
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it back on the recommendation but it's a very important one we should stop to think about that
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okay so um our belief on quickly that this
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prime work a fully mates those criteria set
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out for the all i say no of course on the little bit boss puzzles involving
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putting this together with much strain callings but i think it really does
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make the navy's um of the recommendations uh on body i say
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so um what these framework he is a it is inclusive energies
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mary lou uh levels of base practised sinhalese flexible has all these
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things that the and i see was looking for but also
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this particular frame looking development tried to address some of the issues that were raised by other researchers
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in the development chameleon detriment to improve vastly development
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so we wanted more stages of development
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we didn't wanna have frameworks or a morals depending on your perspective to
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be chronologically in content prescriptive 'cause this huge variation between sports
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more holistic and multi disciplinary and of course you need to
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think about involving more a sty columns within your planning
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so we got to a little bit uh in you know not but just a couple of very broad features
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so well look at the participant here in a moment you
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know it's underpinned by these important elements of possibly development
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a critical component of these foundations skills these really skills
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which allow uh the participant what haven't acted lost all maybe halfway to enjoy sport
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or for the re few right into the heart
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performance partway through some clever identification selection
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and the threesome talent places and then uh some my
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even uh reach a c. international levels of performance
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but the guys earn a little bit more detail using a concrete example
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using the sport uh of skiing which i think i think in our bed in switzerland you you did is a little bit
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okay quite important sport here in switzerland so um that going
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through all the data all of the f. tame and
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framework and d. f. part of if ten stands for foundations anna begins really
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very really basic physically to see which we'll see pick up that phone
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within extend and we found some of those movement patterns typically within schools clubs all communities
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and then we corner alright well to a committee to sport or even do some competitions and that means we
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can stay in sport have health you lost all or it's the prices for hop off on sport
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so i'm hopeful shows so that what they're what i would call collectively good move it's so they're
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a bunch of kids here they got good movement fundamentals at the next stage they and um
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as i said we we take we we try to identify does have got feature for high performance board
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and so we we could identify and select in and
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another important component is to actually can for the
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the tire out of town that they do have the right stuff
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for the future to to ah approachable uh that they ah
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um i responded to training and they do have the sort of things that we would like to have
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you know detainees down the track for example so a talent confirmation face is very important so
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within this framework this is actually a process with
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quite bought the sport all the national federation
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that is taught informed consent talent but from an awfully point of view what
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it represents is a very really talents stardust just at the beginning
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flies of crossing over from participation into the heart performance parts like so
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which one to differentiate talent and this is the first caught
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then after talents confer then then is uh uh then we can call of move more into training yeah
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wasn't putting a lot on because it has to be a lodge and this in the home
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and resources and energy in order to achieve because obviously um as for themselves
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so there are college with the talent even bases and so they working hard is really a long way to
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say your international levels there's lots of a growth in
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many ways and skills and body um in mind
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and importantly die are on track and meeting expectations
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other the coat of themselves or the federation
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you know be some that will actually achieve some sort of breakthrough reward
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um and so for me that's really a true talent uh that at
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this point whether it be a junior championships a national tolerable
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maybe it's um the reward is being imported into a larger high performance trying squad maybe it's uh
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a university scholarship at some moment that by connor right through
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and um uh deport thing is is is that it's not
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open senior competitions other really on the the g.
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but of course this is that traditional tricky here isn't it weird i ought to step up to see new competition
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often it's a step out on what i can't and make
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those demands and and other job that one before
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so their talent achieve is and then finally uh and we
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have those who actually make a scene international a
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competition model ought to point out that we have though is that if you want represent the country
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we had those that are actually successful and and win medals
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and we have those that actually win medals of a multiple high performance articles and
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so you maybe you call them legions but the court of recent mastery
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qantas status but the point is when looking better part as we have to think about connecting now
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these different types of athletes all participants think a bad again what do we need at each level
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and had to ensure that we can progress or transition to the next uh what's required
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and just in terms of this conference i asked uh uh frederick it the only before the comments
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about this idea of this young athletes for what what you mean by young half like well
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from if i try to summarise what i went through before uh sees me um well
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from a these uh definitely uh a young i thought so the not at senior level
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but if we're talking and trying to think about developing young athletes
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him really have to look at these young athletes whiting
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this the participants know called ominously ones like wanna move into the high performance
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a program but we really have to consider had do we maximise good movies and develop
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more good movies and thread this pathway before we really start workings and has talents
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maybe on china had a little bit powers for the um the divide it on the second day that uh yeah next conference
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okay
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if i had to come up with a few things and was good at one point each level
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what could we do to try to make up caught liberia let's start with those foundations
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the first thing right at the very earliest died we need more parental education
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and when it's too late parents now it's important in with the
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uh children to encourage them to ply developed physically to see
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um at the second level definitely if we could have
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more from the school physical education digital age cadence
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and more uh probably school visit full stop i think that would
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buy 'cause she huge difference to a development path wise
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and this one here would be outing car a just
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to try to recruit more pedagogical type of people
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into a bicycle itchy because it's not necessary that you need to have great sport
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skills in order to coach at this level but you need to be good
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with time management beamer dividing encouraging now had work with keats
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and so i'm often hear federation say we don't have enough coaches will get people from outside the
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sport that a good with the skills and i can do it one for job for you
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in terms of the televise 'em out my crushed wrong
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a point here that tell identification is very difficult to select into the feature
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and so let us be more inclusive rather than exclusive
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without selection so much hard to develop logic cohorts
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not based on this idea of feature potentials often we we select way too
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early and we have a it's not a very klee some wants
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in terms of confirming tell if you did take on your cohort trotted confronted i had
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the scroll if someone said you referencing corrode wait did i i willing to make mistakes
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other room to try the willing to learn a very important to futuristic sits
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and did i respond not only to the training stimulus do they respond
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to the couch and maybe the team sport today to dictate nights
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at this stage three starch um i think it's important coaching point of view
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that it's very holistic that the coaches i will also to be transient
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and not false genius the june you will change should success uh up on them
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and to be very endeavour redraw asked with a coaching and
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always think about saying is excess rather ingenious excess
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and then for those talents uh that are succeeding uh at a high level they and uh i
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think which one to integrate them or within the heart performance program particularly support and maintenance
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from those coaches and athletes about so that the transition can be a smith and facilitated
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just to round out the set this idea of what we could do i just make the point that
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understanding the seeing huge amounts of competition will always shied
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you know what we will ultimately do you know at least talent and foundations stages
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well i had one one other point or shouldn't forget and that uh are there all if we
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can improve by fails sport and system pathway coordination
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that is between high performance and participation
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we get that is skills on a national federations get a senior late is a bit aborts
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and flatten the coach coaching hierarchy say that all coaches wrap this system
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ah are important not just the ones at the top so there's some things if we were able to do
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and the king for down change one thing at each element of parts why this might be a something to consider
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well so what do you look in your work through the microscopic
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lanes or more that kaleidoscope lanes big creatures sort of stuff
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what's really critical is that we and i i ever think about transferring knowledge
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and so i'm really like this quite quite dan gould and
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he says that it's a grave mistake to focus so much attention on knowledge acquisition and so little
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attention on knowledge integration and dissemination also feel sometimes in terms of it we actually now now
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but we don't get it translated on the grants not done the i see examples of classic
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is that a lot of people i know where that it so we need
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to try to do better in getting this information on the ground and
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uh i know to more i will hear from if it's hard
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in the story for the back piece of aboriginal signs and
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and a practitioner gap and um early lot this five state model which
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tries to bring together you know the evidence about an intervention
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and bringing in to a group of sty callers who will be responsible for the knowledge
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uh trends for uh tools in product development so colour really lock this uh underpinning philosophy
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okay so just to wrap up now i'm in order for us
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to really optimal is the work of the national federations
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and national sports agencies and now nationally p. can
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be committees we need to actually facilitate change
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and i was gonna reference um apartment sandra from the hints you've tried it sounds
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a lot signal is displayed in conference with even two thousand fifteen posts olympics
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in order to trying to system in order to move this in the right direction what needs to happen
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well we are than it across a set turning platform so you gotta show you
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know mobile as everybody that's not the greatest foundation really for changes it
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but sure enough as it crosses so some done when there was in skating
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income chang or austria in that's across as things which are inch
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more policy wise if we have a very good lead it's typically charismatic leaders in sports
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uh whether they'd be um a performance manages coaches c. e. o.'s administrators
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these are the people look into the politicking and might change happen and is a hot but noted not
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a real otherwise which you get system chimes if you host an olympic games not saying this happened
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three sydney watch was a new case board concerning working of tokyo where
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the answer to every question is yes because the hosting usually picks
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surface which one unfortunately um the put the thought was not the stock your chance of placing
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olympics but of course you do have any um twenty twenty uh usually p. kinds inside
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that might be your chance and also the chance that
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we can focus attention on this huge development issues
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and uh and and and so do outside get a tractor challenge up
Conference Program
Opening address
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Biological Maturation and the Path to Success: Before and After the Fact
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Designing pathways to success – part kaleidoscope, part microscope
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Talent ID and Development: Why doing the “right thing” is not always the “best thing
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BIOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT AND PATHWAYS TO SUCCESS - Q&A
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Sept. 21, 2017 · 2:41 p.m.
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Resistance training during long-term athlete development
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Sept. 21, 2017 · 2:52 p.m.
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The development of aerobic power in young athletes
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Fueling the young athlete
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Training young athletes: challenges and opportunities
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TRAINING THE YOUNG ATHLETE - Q&A
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Coaching from junior to the top of the world (Lara Gut)
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Keep your athletes close and their parents closer: Working effectively with parents
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Combine sport and studies, are the schools doing enough ?
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Sept. 21, 2017 · 6:11 p.m.
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COACHING, PARENTING AND DEVELOPMENT - Q&A
Panel
Sept. 21, 2017 · 6:28 p.m.
DÉBAT PUBLIC (IN FRENCH) : Children and competitive sport, for the best or the worst ?
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Knee ligament injuries in immature athletes
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Osteochondral lesions
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The influence of athletic activities during growth on hip development
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Sept. 22, 2017 · 8:35 a.m.
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INJURIES WITH THE ORTHOPEDISTS - Q&A
Panel
Sept. 22, 2017 · 8:54 a.m.
Back pain in young athletes
Liba SHEERAN
Sept. 22, 2017 · 9:34 a.m.
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Injuries and illnesses amongst young elite athletes – so healthy it hurts?
Christine HOLM MOSEID
Sept. 22, 2017 · 9:57 a.m.
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Long term sequelae of youth overuse injuries
Mark BATT
Sept. 22, 2017 · 10:19 a.m.
OVERUSE INJURIES - Q&A
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Sept. 22, 2017 · 10:40 a.m.
Concussions in young athletes : myths and reality
Christopher NEWMAN
Sept. 22, 2017 · 10:52 a.m.
Screening for heart disease in sports – nonsense or necessary?
Matthias WILHELM
Sept. 22, 2017 · 11:16 a.m.
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Energy deficiency in young athletes – prevalence, consequences and screening
Anna MELIN
Sept. 22, 2017 · 11:39 a.m.
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Competitive Sport & Health: hidden issues
Gordon MATHESON
Sept. 22, 2017 · 12:04 p.m.
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THE COMPLEX MEDICAL PROBLEMS - Q&A
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Injury prevention in youth : What is learned in the cradle is carried in the tomb ?
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Sept. 22, 2017 · 1:46 p.m.
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Injury prevention programs : The 11+ Kids Project
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Sept. 22, 2017 · 2:12 p.m.
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Sports specialized training: what are the true effects and is it really all bad ?
Neeru JAYANTHI
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What is “load” and how does it impact athletes’s risk of injury ?
Torbjorn SOLIGARD
Sept. 22, 2017 · 2:49 p.m.
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Instituting a unique public health approach to ACL injury risk management
Joseph Janoski
Sept. 22, 2017 · 3:47 p.m.
Instituting a unique public health approach to ACL injury risk management - Q&A
Joseph Janoski
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Parents’ Knowledge of Sport Psychology and Nutrition
Dr Camilla J. Knight
Sept. 22, 2017 · 3:57 p.m.
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Injuries and injury risk factors in youth alpine ski racing: A two-season prospective study
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FREE COMMUNICATION AND BEST ABSTRACT PRESENTATION - Q&A
Panel
Sept. 22, 2017 · 4:21 p.m.
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Closing Address
Frederic Koehn, President Young Athletes Forum Foundation
Sept. 22, 2017 · 6:04 p.m.
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