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the news board there um welcome to the talk back session uh well
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i should feel very very happy that the audience is though you know more
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or less picked to even with the the last session of the day
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so thank you very much for being here it's a pleasure for me being here in to
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being you together with fall experts uh uh for people with
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with the with the great background with interesting background
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uh so my i'm in charge error of the commercially unit in euro good news and sports and entertainment
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and uh i'm guiding you through the next around sixty minutes on the sports topic um
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let me start introducing you are out the penalties are
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first elf half life you have half an hour
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uh she is just arrived from las vegas shifted
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director of research at the university of nevada
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yeah yeah i have the financial gain if you if i'm in a flat top on both
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freezers caliph internet gambling with the phone with the idea of your fourth and employees
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she thigh that you're off the uh i think we first if you reviewed journals
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uh gee sure so at the international advisory fellow for thing if with national council
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she is the founding director of the new viaduct his fourth alliance
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and both names yeah in twenty three with the global gaming bases on the fourteen forty percent
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so other front i think uh that you're here and that we have to have one special topic to torture and
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if i could now say that if the reason why she iffy and we flew in the face
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of the decision today figure of but we've all we don't talk about it in if it
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then i'd like to introduce you to stiffen flipping if uh he he
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uh uh uh if if the executive director of he views forward
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he actually are oh that's probably fifty shorter fifteenth uh
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to the to the audience for the for he
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arrives from the from the function lever um the stuff i
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became the head of international program airfares are off
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yeah on the fed he you in ninety two he was later on the control of sports right
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he was uh in nineteen eighty i'm slightly ninety eight
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he was elected to use forthcoming fees sharon
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yeah yeah it is thought if they have the fifth year we hear the fabric of you region over a shoe that if you
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and later on now with the executive directive use for it
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have you thought maybe she if if if you're either make your rifle or whomever territories uh off
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including the of you know the football curve on for uh the both of twenty two
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and all the you get many many of of major thought marked and and winter
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um if if the if the events i'll forever is a lawyer
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so and we'll we'll have another way all that on
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page so and he thought it uh in germany in in that and let it every curve that's what to fit
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um for that long uh on on form of direct fifteenth and federation if if if
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chocolate defame them if probably the um many of you know the here so
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yeah if there aren't if our uh in charge of the haitian with all sport plus federations
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have you have a list of all the fake was involved in the politics or
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uh it's yeah and uh the uh it it brings
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um you know the traditional sports experts expertise
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uh together with to use force 'em expertise so here are
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up before we moved into each word he was the
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computer off the german poppy problems we go for almost ten years from two thousand five two thousand fifteen
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uh in twenty ten yeah he was no he was awarded to
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force measure over here by the german magazine how ride origins
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uh and it's a a fair around to uh the feeling
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of two thousand seventeen he moved to use that right
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fun test if you've also vice president of the german if sports federation if uh as i
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mentioned he thought if you off and five and have to get the vote if um
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so but i found and the final long uh oh very cool finite he's ahead
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of me off a out for entertainment if s. a. p. if up
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thank you um the radio um if the tracks if industry why the for for both
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at i. p. cast the most sports game publishers sports betting not read another
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he's also a highest impressions also bit of your passion your lecturer
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uh at the university all for our uh pump for a a a fabric that alone yeah as
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well as and a lot for all in london so you start with that recently right
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so you graduated the uh not in a war you credit in in the humanities and arts
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um and because i'm destruction of well so are for you go um that's develop
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a lot of international business from here sports and take confirms since the thought of exterior
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almost fifteen twenty years ago i don't want to vision your your person but
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alright thank you guys for being here so let's let's start or with the fashion
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there are i'd i'd like to ask you what uh all of you one question um
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please could you we're very briefly outline i mean you only inches the sports industry
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uh and uh and your view what what comes next
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but at least at my connection to that you sports sense
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what industry is as it relates to gambling snow i'm
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the director research as allies as mentioned i have the international
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gaining institute at the university in analysing i guess
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most of the head of social and recreational gambling research i at u. c.
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l. a. in los angeles i go back and forth between the two
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so evidently steady is underneath the umbrella of gambling still
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gambling markets as they pertain to game integrity or
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gambling as it relates to gain design which often comes up with the sports and video game
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i would then that's got van daimler behaviour as well as prior behaviour and how does
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manage to intertwine finance and operations that that you and how they are related
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i am from there at that time i became one of the founding directors on
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the net out you sports alliance add that was put together to log
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at these points not just from the gambling perspective of course last i guess is home to
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and massive a gambling industry but it's also mounted on massive
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tourism industry and from there the infrastructure associated with tourism
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was one that we hope to embrace as it pertains to the sports and competition
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i as for the future of the sports and what's next uh yeah i'll i'll answer
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within the scope of of what i know best which is of course gambling
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add this thing is ever increasing way we talk about the size of the market
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for gambling when we compare it to e. sports it's something that dwarfs the industry itself
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ah the estimate for twenty seventeen and uh the sports industry was that this market isn't a mouse and
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maybe seven hundred fifty million euros something like that and then i'm sure
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there are agreements disagreements on the actual assessment as their allies are
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whereas the estimate for betting on you sports embedding as it relates these points
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ranges anywhere from two billion u. r. l.'s to perhaps seven daily and euros and some
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estimates even put it at fifty billion by the time we had about twenty twenty
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so within that scope i think there's quite a lot of future within the
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the batting sphere or whether it be betting on the event itself
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i didn't play wagering is quite large with these points some of the pieces that came up in
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the last session certainly related back concept as well as bedding within the capacity of the game
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thank you very much different well um b. b. you your pin broadcasting union
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is an organisation that represents all the public service broadcasters in europe
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um so we're covering more than fifty territories countries
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um and uh we have a more
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than seventy members acting uh under this umbrella uh the you is that it
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collectively buying writes a sports rights and to in this respect reality following clearly
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all relevant media trends in order to see where our traditional media um might go in in future
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we um all the dinosaurs uh consider this the dinosaurs uh in in this
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world that's how i dressed up like that um and um and
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on the other hand being a dinosaur you see a lot of
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species passing by uh coming up and then passing away again
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and so we feel sometimes a bit like jurassic park you know coming
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back with version one two and three and being quite successful
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so our relationship with the with the industry of gaming is is they uh in the sense of
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not only looking at it but also actively i'm starting exchange with them
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because we believe and we have to discuss it later we believe
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that um you gaining wants to be will be ah
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that means a and spend the getting lots of money from the broadcasters or other groups of all the
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rights and i think both worlds of looking now into how to um if it how to
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merge uh did say at least various sectors of the activities and where does it go i think
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it will happen uh the merging of the traditional and the new uh sports thank you
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yeah and you know i'm with d. s. l. and on all
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all modesty it's the biggest sport company bought your noisy online
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omens leaks and often tournament this weekend in dallas next weekend to birmingham soul
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big events with ten thousands of spectators well the confetti comes down in the end and where you can uh
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rice a a trophy and uh hundreds of thousands of euros or as a as a
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as a player um what we expect well of we will make mistakes but uh
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in the end i think we're we're sitting on record and we will be though
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but yes or what sport would be the the biggest entertainment industry and work very well this would be huge
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thank you very good yeah i work for a separate or you will really familiar with is the largest
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uh business software company in the war we're ninety five k. employees more less that what footprint
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and we enter into your sports and entertainment um we
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we the whole to to deliver the best
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software solutions fourteen for the nation broadcast or any other is the holder and to this industry
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um obviously when you see and this is what we need double numbers year after year then definitely
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something the yeah i think uh this is part of the detailed information of the society
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uh people is not looking anymore line in you know in gauge and so they go to normally
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and this is nonlinear entertainment because it's very interactive is much more different than any other sport
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ah i'm broadcast teen haywood before so i i think it's alignment to
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to not loses and that's why it's so interesting for more fast
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for those who are question if this is a sport not a sport that i think
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doesn't relevant if we go one hundred years ago people would argue that you
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ask us not music and later on they need to accept it so as soon as you do it the but the but the the advantage you have
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thank you very much i'm i'm i'm definitely agree with you i mean maybe will
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not touch varies on the topic you see sporty sports or not i think
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uh all the people were interested in e. e. sports it i'm sure
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you are so you you have a discuss this question already
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so i would rather touch it will continue talking about entertainment
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and uh having you here uh uh you know
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not even twenty four hours for a from las vegas the mega of entertainment a matter of life and attainment
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uh i mean we all know that he's bored is really growing market about how does it get along the
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east word uh with the with the life annotated as it's because he knows in in uh las vegas
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it has been extremely popular to plug into the entertainment next in the product makes that exists
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is that last may i guess like in more of the resorts setting in general
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last i guess has cancer quite a lot of evolution is over the years
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and now it's very much focused on being and as you said and entertainment mac as opposed to necessarily a gambling madcap
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especially as we advanced in technology to have access to gambling is so many different media
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uh you know for example that the phone in my pocket will hold a gambling
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i don't need to go into the casino to place the major anymore
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and so are these resorts have have listen to diversify it's no longer just
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casino resorts would call them integrated resorts there's no gambling
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phrase allergy that exist in that name anymore
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i guess the results things like e. sports and gaming is gaining lounges had
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become particularly popular i read hasn't been very popular each entity here
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last i guess is now looking to see how e. sports can be
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part of it's entertainment next and we've seen quite a variety
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the e. sports arena which is uh as some not globally known brands they have
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i read as i or either existing market development all around the world
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just open that i i brain your brain i really just don't in a few months i don't now two months at most
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yeah you and last may guess in the labs or that's the big pyramid one and the script
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that has the giant like because that that you can see when you fly in and
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that went into an old nightclub space the nightclub had not been performing well the
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closed it and now there's a giant the sports arena and that space
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we also see a competition spaces the downtown granted honestly i guess has
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opened up a book and space where teams con and rent
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out the space and they can all live together much in the same way that that and i described in the last session
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i don't live together in bunk beds in a in a i'm not about hotels sleek and then they can go into the
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training room and train it really has very i said sure are
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very fast uh internet connections so that they're able to
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i i play there and train with their then we also have detail type lounge is one
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of the big trends recently in the gambling space is only costs deal based gaming
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uh which is a just a marketing way of saying gambling that
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has some scale component involved in it i'm from their
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leasing a big overlap with you sports that trendy to brain and i think if you people now mentioned millennium walls
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but just does the most lingerie and he did word in the gambling industry right now
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i had to have that converge together so it's not necessarily just a gambling product
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it's also the means of offer range and entertaining keys
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that simply exists we have or uh and and
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tandem with or a alongside the the gambling itself
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i mean i'm about to buy a ticket was bigger immediately after the sessions whether that's pretty clear so it
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seems that if a rather they go again and had of uh the entertainment and um and uh
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and uh i mean the consuming entertainment life and on
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side is probably probably still into these two days
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consuming uh entertainment through our uh uh through the media channels
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um different era i mean you're only yeah you're
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coming from from the only nearer to the t. v. world uh i mean you experiencing all of it
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uh all the competitors there um a form of on the nonlinear bolt
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um i mean what's what's your view and uh on on the
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development and how do you positioned at e. b. use uh
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uh you know i'm way off of presenting about be used
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for topic to the to the to the awfully increasingly
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i'm interested audience i if i really think and i believe um
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the two worlds have to start to to use the same language at least
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uh to start to discuss to have exchanges um i don't think that
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do we uh completely fishing in different phones um and and we should do more
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probably together uh i see if you go just move second away from uh the pure media perspective or
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from the pure d. c. t. v. perspective um what i understand is that even twitch is
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amy looking a bit at the traditional media by having now
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it twenty four seven sports channel uh on the platform
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so it's not only of looking at it in at at at uh the these in just a few game
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it's also the the gaming industry looking at us in trying to combine things um if you look at
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again wider the organisations uh we have all listen don't follow to discussion of the olympics
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will it happen or not happen so even these traditional bodies uh if he's discussing
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it and and we don't have to to to other question now but
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when you look at the asian games i understand two thousand eighteen already the
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asian games will run in the gaming competition and in twenty twenty
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two um in china it will be unofficial sport except it there so we
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see that the traditional bodies are somehow starting to discuss and when i
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break it down to our t. v. world um i can see the
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same uh what are we good that we are good that storytelling
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um uh is that you get a good at storytelling i don't know it's probably too expensive to
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have the players uh then we uh good at reaching still a larger number of eyeballs
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um we are quite good at that um i think we're very good at
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promoting things we out that at a catching the interest of the use
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what we i see clearly uh the advantage of the gaming industry so somehow
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as we all stand facing and facing the same situation that the audiences and experience
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that we can share um i believe uh that can be more done what
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do we specifically to you um we clearly hold off
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first you gaming workshop uh actually master class
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uh in in two thousand sixteen in berlin we continue um eleventh and twelfth of june
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to have old invited members um uh to have an l. another workshop in helsinki
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um and we we as it you uh also i'm in contact with a t. e.
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gaming industry uh to buy or use rights and to offer it to all members
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and all members uh again oh extremely active in this field already so we're
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not just sort of a different world files when i look at um
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minimum fifteen to twenty members are already active in this field
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um part of them doing highlights part of them doing
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broadcasting part of them starting having news items so all
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different activities so it's happening really that we're merging
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oh getting together at least one after the other and um in this context
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i believe that there is more to come i'm i'm quite convinced um
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we might probably not start with certain violent sports we
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might start with other sports we might start
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very conservatively with the parallel to our it's a live shows with the the simulation of sports
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um and we believe this is a good start but we see that other members are even going a bit further okay so
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not sure enough i mean each each of the members i'm either going over the kind of kind of the only opinion
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uh so therefore it's it's a it's a kind of a transition period which you just described
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what what you so a role and how's the use as influencing
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i mean the the developments there of the of all
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the development of the media channel what's the best media channel for four years old i mean everything started as
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as she ever mention with which but no i mean as as the the the public order of
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overboard dresses i getting approached i mean how do you want to uh direct is this
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well we're we're of course interested to reach as many eyes for eyeballs as possible so that for you and uh
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member associations a member stations off of of the highest interest us
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uh i would uh i'll just uh said jokingly to justify uh there's always the two minutes before the
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types although the the menus and german t. v. i'll watch by like ten million people there's always
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two minutes uh use from stock exchange uh could be an idea to to have
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two minutes or what's the baby wrap up of the sport that uh that
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might you you more interesting to just send your application with the real world just just just a
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job that's the the the the very next i'm not the very next step um so
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that there's a basis of of expectation of the sport and service that
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you can see something on on on which or at least
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for free uh on free spoke what retorts after so that's where we stop and you too
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but we we feel more more that classical t. v.
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stations linear t. v. stations visions recharge russ phosphor
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for magazines for for life events even in germany there was putting that i thought were broadcasting
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broadcasting live counter strike a off eleven in the evening of course
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and uh so what went very well okay well this will grow thank you for this air
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very good um i mean it's a p. just a announce the ah thing one or two weeks ago all
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their involvement uh in in the team uh it partnership or sponsorship uh oh are you name it
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but uh your interest in in the in the sports industry is different it's it's not just being here
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a a spoiler or traditionally like having some uh some uh
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uh i don't know media over this so your interest is different would you
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like to outline please the interest of as a puny sports sure
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um that's everything is moving from union to nonlinear and everything's going interactive
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so from your perspective also off or should go that way
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and in that sense we ponder should uh with the uh team liquid
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which is one of the largest your sports team in europe
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to understand the k. p. eyes that they need for paper phone phones me and also develop
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older core innovation projects that can help cost to serve other software into the industry
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um it's a new way to connect the brown to all the
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obvious is that otherwise you cannot reach in particular may be
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um a company like i said we will not reach if they are not new sports because uh
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we had pieces of work so the way to conduct with dolls on this is different please
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into new channels you complication channels just sports okay i mean
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i think this is pretty much it trained and
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and we have new the sports i mean we're we're investigating the market and we have we're seeing that
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at this stage i mean a a brand especially in on it uh it don't make brains uh moving into into the sport
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i mean i i we'll give you one video for you there so prepared for the session just
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to also to present you a second uh examples next it's a. p. how you can
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uh be engaged air within the e. sports industry and i'm i'm
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asking the the technique to play the the video of gillette
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we're we're
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they are
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i think it's it's quite interesting to see how they they activated how i'll their house gillette involved with it
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let me ask you i mean this video is from the the is the top event obvious
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ellen captivated who who went to see into with the the even got to be to
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i'm not not that many off that one three four people thought that
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and uh uh who else visited any sport even in general
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of course i mean everybody yeah then the the audience so i don't know ten to twenty percent so um
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i think i mean putting the the um is it if you use more topic a little bit on the side i mean
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i'm i'm still let me i can't really a way to oh two or two oscar you bread uh i mean
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for your view on the on the decision happened to two days
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ago and probably you would like to explain what precisely
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has been decided by uh by the us or a government
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authority to to open the case for for betting
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so so so the two sentence explanation is that
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previously there had been a federally imposed
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plan and sports betting other that knows that were grandfathered in from prior law
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that band has now been left it so damn their sports betting is not necessarily universally
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legal across the united states no but the bayonets that's just it's no longer band
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i as it currently stands gambling is regulated at the state level and the united
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states much as it is in in germany as we were talking about earlier
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and as so currently each state has the opportunity
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to create its own lot regarding sports betting
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ah there is also one currently uh issue for discussion at the federal level the
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we'll see where that goes and then from there the sports betting we'll progress
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and uh and what does it mean for the sports industry on
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let me let me before you weren't i'd i'd like to
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jump over to you and uh i mean there wasn't but do you think what it means for the sports industry
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well i think this is really big news we can become very happy first of all it's it's great for the customers for for
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the for the feds because they can get more involved into the sport through betty this is uh this is something uh
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you and others did research on that the moment you you bet even if it's a small amount on
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on a sporting event in your getting more involved and you start a conversation
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with your friends et cetera et cetera sort would be just more fun
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to what you sport or to be involved in this and fall fall or
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fall torment over notice and all teams that this i think this money to uh
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well just off just in the premier league and english premier league or
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half of the teams have a betting companies on the on the jersey you the the the
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main part of the the the main part so if you if you picture this would
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something like this would happen in the in the us market or even even globally
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for the teams and for the for the event although not as also always done
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under the prop for transparent compliant way of course this could be great
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i mean yeah please correct me read of i'm not a a vamp wrong but i mean uh uh if i remember a lot of i'm
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i read write paper i mean the n. f. l. the m. b. a. they are not so much in
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favour of this decision is it warm water with uh what's your view i it depends on the organisation
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uh it but some are in favour i if you go back even just maybe three or
00:27:56
four years none were in favour that now and i see it certainly as i uh
00:28:02
monetary plus e. v. opportunity it's uh the option that they
00:28:06
now can collect on certain things so for example and
00:28:10
i many areas the water sports betting is already in existence
00:28:14
there's an existing and stable market and regulatory structure
00:28:17
there are fees that do go toward leagues organisations to put toward integrity
00:28:23
training tracking at partnerships with gambling regulatory organisations as already is
00:28:29
partnerships with adding operator is not just from the sponsors yet perspective
00:28:33
but also from a an integrity perspective to look for
00:28:37
i know i'm betting patterns that might signify identify some sort
00:28:41
of corruption in the sport i and so from there
00:28:45
that's something that that i think some of these leagues are little
00:28:48
they capitalised on and not necessarily a negative thing capitalised on
00:28:52
i would say that there's certainly a mix of opinions on
00:28:55
how that will actually well there's then requests for
00:28:59
i i feel one percent have handled so this is the amount of
00:29:03
money that's spent on again it's not necessarily the amount of money
00:29:07
that the block windows so one percent handle can actually be a huge amount if i
00:29:12
put down a hundred euros on the l. canada not have main arsenal game
00:29:16
ah but that that is only going to pan out say you know i'd a hundred and fifty euros
00:29:21
i the the taxes coming out of that hundred euros it's not coming out of the amount that
00:29:27
the the the book might we and and so that's been a huge sticking
00:29:31
point from the legislative perspective in the united states because that he
00:29:35
is typically ending up being in absolute terms greater than like this they
00:29:39
would actually get so for example in the state of nevada
00:29:42
i find taking an effective twenty percent which is about but that one percent fee would be quite a lot of the revenues
00:29:48
i'm getting three to four times like this data data is getting so there's been a lot
00:29:53
of discussion on that might certainly i don't look at the perspective that he's boards
00:29:58
there's quite a lot there half erica said you know doesn't matter us is part is
00:30:02
a sport or not a sports you just move forward and go with it
00:30:06
i unless things change has been defined sport united states uh it has an impact
00:30:12
on the sports because wagering is different if something is considered a sport
00:30:16
or sort of an event is the word we typically use because bill if it's a sport has to fit under sports
00:30:23
betting regulations that it's an event it has a completely separate
00:30:26
set of regulations that if it's under so currently adam
00:30:31
oh all football games you can pick whichever for value like adam my american accented
00:30:35
one or the actual one the ad they they are typically just sort
00:30:40
of capri approved entity i don't have to go away and do the gaming
00:30:43
control board every time i wanna take a wager on an arsenal game
00:30:47
i find that bookmaker whereas with any sports events if yes that was hosting a major event i wanna
00:30:52
take wagers on yes i love and i have to apply for each event that yes i
00:30:56
was testing so it's not very popular thing right now so until there's well the colour white list
00:31:01
of events was it that that would be slow to move forward interesting i mean uh
00:31:06
so you mentioned already if federico so i mean recreate me it's a piece focusing on the
00:31:11
on the in all the tricks of of the teams et cetera at you know
00:31:14
looking at getting and and you know the prob possible negative impact on that so what's
00:31:20
your view i mean uh how does it come together and what all the wreaths
00:31:23
uh we would work with but make us actually providing them software to
00:31:27
teach the i'll use or to run their operations into databases
00:31:32
um on your sports we want to understand it cause system better
00:31:35
that's why we are working with that in with tape your
00:31:38
or software solutions to the t. needs on what the others they all believe
00:31:43
in this environment are from spots within perspective i definitely think that
00:31:48
with the arrival of your sports we will have much more markets to bet and actually is all about who's
00:31:55
gonna win maybe the next round but we're gonna see much more alive engagement when the yes boards
00:32:01
a tournament or games into the but the houses because uh oh this is not the more popular and
00:32:07
everyone will understand better what to offer to the audience and when we think about i'll lose actually
00:32:13
uh the stand time that a person can get attention is
00:32:17
we shorter shorter because the options are much higher
00:32:20
in the past noon yeses have the remote control that page of the way we watch t. v. but
00:32:25
before that it to stand up to the chip that will have everything on one or fingers
00:32:29
and uh if you are not interacting with the loudness after a second then people would move out
00:32:35
so yes forces gonna offer to build make us a new market to approached an
00:32:39
audience when when you buy a men's also because it's different kind of sport
00:32:44
um so definite is gonna be a poster for the bookmakers that why
00:32:49
many of them i do not good job in that sounds like a mission as an
00:32:52
example of lottery downs good spiel in denmark they uh have been amazing job
00:32:57
and that's fine now is one of the top five
00:33:00
e. sports lean years but because that they have
00:33:04
but in a i'm running on the website because they have started these many years ago and all the lotteries
00:33:11
had not yet to start so it's time to go time to bet on your sports uh the best solution for your
00:33:18
how does it sounds very interesting yeah i mean i like to open
00:33:22
air this topic is really hot topic a very fresh topic i
00:33:25
may actually we have organised this topic for the session today so yeah
00:33:29
do you have a question is it uh with regards to
00:33:32
to the the just happened decision on betting in the u. s. s.
00:33:39
oh it's it's things that betting is not a very big topic but we have one question over there
00:33:48
alright insisting on alright perfect um i think one big thing in regards betting in terms
00:33:54
of uh preventing manipulation is um like you said you have to analysts for patterns
00:33:59
that requires you to have a certain set of data two tickets to the patterns
00:34:03
no new sports i think we have challenge that you have multiple different gains
00:34:08
you don't have an aggravation of all the data from all the gains anywhere so don't you think
00:34:13
that's going to be a problem to make a recognition of patterns that could indicate manipulation there
00:34:19
it's kind of yes ah yes definitely
00:34:23
i there's a lot that i the discussion and that's that some of the box has
00:34:27
a saturation updated to the point where they are able to target somebody's betting patterns
00:34:33
and my opinion on on that specific point is actually less so that the data is so spread out
00:34:39
but actually more that as as was i think discuss their least
00:34:42
alluded to in the last session there's constantly new games
00:34:45
that are being developed an exploding upon the scenes a fortnight a battle right now nobody was playing the six
00:34:51
months ago because it didn't really exist any like what was the release date that's not even six months ago and
00:34:57
i i guess suddenly it's one of the biggest gains that we half cell when games are continuing to goes
00:35:03
patterns that's what we really don't have enough data to really be able to term and
00:35:07
what might or might not be i'm normal banding pattern because it simply to french
00:35:12
and for a long time actually with the same idea there are
00:35:15
many issues with creating alright as reagan mentioned that and
00:35:19
is it on sky spell and uh in denmark and they they've been doing
00:35:23
this for many years so it's like easier for them to send line
00:35:26
if we look at the history of football i have all sorts of data on third party now
00:35:31
what sort of behaviours are good for a good football player
00:35:34
so i can create a line for a football match
00:35:38
that would allow need to sort of even out the bowl for bookmaker is to have an even amount
00:35:43
of wagers on each side of the match because they will always win from that vinegar the bigger
00:35:48
and so but that's we don't necessarily know how to properly set a line for the
00:35:53
sports matches for business perspective in addition to the integrity perspective there's issue there
00:35:58
other back to your original planks 'cause i as an academic tend to digress and
00:36:04
i i agree i think that there is really an issue that we don't have sort of a centralise the database of this
00:36:09
but um i've you want is more that these these new games that
00:36:12
keep exploding and get very very popular are regularly being added
00:36:16
tuesday at cut competitive schedule that that groups like yeah seller having
00:36:21
i i that much harder for integrity oversight if i can or something on that topic uh i think this is
00:36:27
a great opportunity for companies like i. p. and other software
00:36:31
tools to demonstrate artificial intelligence and the machine learning
00:36:35
as soon as you are on the algorithm under the stars learning how that game behaves
00:36:39
and how the players or letters that games are run then we
00:36:44
have a much more compiling this story to tell our customers
00:36:47
why would they will software that just advertisement anywhere like read something
00:36:52
so this is the the new marketing way to engage on your sports is not just
00:36:58
spray and pray for someone to buy your stuff
00:37:01
is much more a storytelling uh about
00:37:05
what you do and why you do it and how would you do it
00:37:09
seven and not to the betting i wanted to have more a question related
00:37:13
to the sports a business model actually uh it's something i will okay
00:37:18
alright i mean uh yeah i think i mean in this decision is probably just the milestone uh uh
00:37:24
you know within the betting industry and we really a lot lot more many more things about that
00:37:29
a very soon so let's come back to one of the grey or one of the questions um and from the agenda
00:37:35
i mean i'll say e. sports competition going to be changed i i mean stefan are i mean i uh oh
00:37:41
so the fact that you started early and you you more it what was going on the
00:37:45
market and you will have your next it's was workshop in finland very soon so
00:37:49
so really i mean so you are you are ready or uh uh to to move
00:37:53
in what when do you expect the explosion first question on the sports and uh
00:37:59
and uh i mean what do you recommend a yarn to do in order to change the component
00:38:05
competition that uh the the the why the audience uh available for the increase the interest
00:38:11
i think the explosion is is happening from the perspective of growth
00:38:16
but uh the level of course from where you start i mean percentage that's high but if you look an absolute figures and it's
00:38:22
compared to do the television already is still on the way let's
00:38:25
put it this uh this way um and to and therefore
00:38:29
i believe in order to make the competition crow i mean from our traditional understanding the teams for example that
00:38:36
team from our traditional understanding means you have to click in to connect to them because of something
00:38:43
it's not the name it's not only the way how to perform it must be something
00:38:47
else and and this is a bit difficult for the outside world to understand
00:38:51
who is the team why i'm a supporting this team all the other team um and
00:38:56
that is something which from our traditional world we believe needs a bit of um
00:39:01
uh_huh blood fresh look and and to see what kind of learning from digital
00:39:05
sports can be taken to is it a national team visited and and
00:39:09
be at the represented of the national team here but he said the big
00:39:12
guys uh somewhere else as noted with the national team so somehow
00:39:15
this seems to be one to do one problem that is existing the other
00:39:19
one it's very simple uh you don't know all the people you
00:39:22
don't know the teens you have difficulties to understand who is it um
00:39:27
and that's where i think television and asked the and and and
00:39:31
egon could probably come together and say we could really um hop out
00:39:36
with storytelling on on performance on the teens who is it uh and to
00:39:41
make them get get rid of emotions around that it's not only them
00:39:44
moment that is emotional i think delete up has to be a cast to
00:39:49
prepare emotions and that's where i believe television can can come in
00:39:53
and this is what our members have done um they have started to broadcast and then
00:39:58
there is so it's not good enough and they started then to create highlight shows
00:40:03
um and surrounding stories around this and this then led to a high interest
00:40:09
and we don't know going so far um but as you you
00:40:11
we're exchanging a regularly news items for all our members so
00:40:16
we have fifty thousand items that we're sending to all the
00:40:20
broadcasters connected to us and the agencies by the way
00:40:24
and we are now considering also to have its to um certain highlight events uh to put there
00:40:31
exchange it and hope to get it at least to the sports and or to the news
00:40:36
in order to make people understand that's there and then once you have that kind of momentum
00:40:41
i think then the financing model uh from our perspective could fly that we're willing
00:40:45
to pay even for rights as long as something has to be built up
00:40:50
um it's difficult to get these access to these revenues and uh we we are willing to build it up
00:40:55
but we're not ready to prepare it and and i mean yeah unless or noise i mean
00:41:00
how do you uh what's your vision listed to to uh to you i'm not
00:41:04
what what do or or yon maybe what what what what is your view how would
00:41:08
you like to develop in order to to to to get to a better axes
00:41:13
well or for first of all we have to do it very clear that
00:41:18
we're still in adolescence so it'll be about you're not a like
00:41:22
fee for it since nineteen of all four or something oh so you're still
00:41:27
in rock n. roll state of of of of of of the industry
00:41:31
and this will still looking it classical sport we can learn a traditional sport we can we can learn about how
00:41:38
to do storytelling how to to how to better explain all competitions how
00:41:42
to avoid that we have a global championship he and another one
00:41:46
two months later and some of the uh link or they are not linked whatever
00:41:51
that we can use uh we we try to to create a from zero
00:41:55
two euros strategy well the the big global tone women's of course on on
00:42:00
top of the pyramid and but from the foundation you can you come
00:42:05
rice step by step from national championships to come to those goals
00:42:10
global global important event but this is just you just have it at the beginning
00:42:16
my my my personal take this or or the others that you know this but my person take would be uh
00:42:23
in the next seven to ten years we've also see really national competitions does not
00:42:28
not something which is common uses all take so long slim to ten years
00:42:33
but oh well i would i would of course it's full would take some time but but the moment would be the would be
00:42:42
publicly financed and all that the germans date wouldn't
00:42:45
like to see all only the russians or
00:42:48
all the port you use or whatever when the metals uh or to the americans so i i
00:42:55
think we will have you see this happen one day but just a question then is it
00:43:00
do you think that this kind because we're talking here in the session before we
00:43:04
we listen to number of four five very important um e. sports competitions um
00:43:11
do you think that after a couple of us something completely new has to
00:43:14
come something else has to happen because a league of legends and
00:43:18
all that is good but to play it for eight years ten years of the watch it uh for eighteen years might be difficult
00:43:26
or with what you've all sort of four hundred years there's a problem
00:43:30
that uh i actually i got everything i i i don't want
00:43:34
i don't know the answer to this question if i knew i would be genius and sitting somewhere in the
00:43:38
villa been just getting phone calls once a day i nobody knows of the whole industry is is this
00:43:44
it's trying to answer this question and the the bus if that developed fortnight they are
00:43:48
building your heroes and we will have new them to use time so this is why i think
00:43:53
this is the interesting thing about this for as well the some games that stay like
00:43:57
come to strike has been around for twenty years and we'll see what happens to fork
00:44:00
out of it was different for a pretty long time of the games might just
00:44:06
fade away to to puerto new yeah i could i mean i'm a few days ago i mean uh you coming from a from
00:44:14
a tech company and uh i think a visual a reality is
00:44:18
probably definitely topic or so for for as a p. e.
00:44:21
at least i mean i'm i'm definitely convinced that you personally uh interest in this topic uh
00:44:26
i mean uh you presented to me yes that they are quite interesting video from from japan and so
00:44:32
i mean uh what what if the and what's the link uh of these virtual reality uh
00:44:37
a trend uh or taking big it's not anymore trend maybe
00:44:41
uh involved in uh in the sports industry what what
00:44:44
what what what can we get out of it well i was surprised by the how the work ah
00:44:48
this uh initiative from a japanese company a startup called
00:44:52
us to want to shut communication on the ornaments
00:44:57
that look like teen team against team just like useful that is
00:45:00
moving your body uh with the return value the headset
00:45:04
uh this can be a new segment inside the video game in competition
00:45:09
which is evolving from being in front of a laptop or a
00:45:12
screen uh with your device and just interacting digitally to i mix
00:45:17
and we have some interesting of targets also here in this
00:45:20
in this congress are mixing bitch already we i mean communication
00:45:24
and trying to move people out of the chip
00:45:28
so i think this is not gonna replace or kenny wallace uh yes possible
00:45:33
he shows the new segment inside this huge all real war and again out talking about anybody
00:45:40
station do something that everyone is afraid of a federations flops from traditional sports please
00:45:47
take your strategy for your sports even to say no
00:45:50
but starting the case because this annual communication channel
00:45:54
uh to reach new audiences to put your brown in the head of many
00:45:58
people there is much more viewers orpheus force actually than many other
00:46:03
traditional sports so even to say no please review your strategy and
00:46:09
say no without reason knows knows just say no because
00:46:12
all this is a four d. s. digital for young people i don't understand anything if
00:46:16
you still fragment the uh and there's novel association to look after these are flats
00:46:21
a movement is evolving every the that's the goal of this as
00:46:25
well and your brown can be better position if you
00:46:29
i i agree with that company strategy on the stakeholders to your company
00:46:33
yes and uh i really um want to to support that idea because when we started to discuss with you the soft
00:46:39
um uh this was uh the idea to some will bring
00:46:43
a real event that means the olympics um to win
00:46:48
if you're the young viewers uh but then to use as much
00:46:51
as possible it see the real down hill slow um
00:46:55
and allow the people to compete to a certain extent with the real picture and and these kind of things
00:47:01
i believe is up coming in by awful and you can define your heartbeat when you
00:47:06
have to shoot a and all that kind of thing so the out released
00:47:09
developments possible and and weekly support that idea because we believe this is a must
00:47:14
to guide people to more interaction with the with the sports decisions balls
00:47:19
no i mean i also agree with you and and if you if you um you mention to uh i
00:47:23
mean all the stops to of today and and and do we know for what games is also probably
00:47:28
i mean they're they're not far away for integrating visual reality as well let me to kind of you know so we we haven't seen it
00:47:34
gets also these uh a hollow road games so everybody uh we haven't
00:47:38
seen it yet should should maybe do believe it's quite interesting
00:47:41
but i mean again you know lot bigger as a is or where they had all that they make is like is it
00:47:46
you know everybody on the street lovely go running around with with
00:47:49
the with the regional uh uh the technical brought um
00:47:54
oh the last days in particular i don't think everyone will be running around with the
00:47:58
rich already had that because we like to think that what we've created there
00:48:02
isn't itself already the virtual reality in so perhaps while you're there you don't need to
00:48:06
where they had said that perhaps we can export it it's either had area
00:48:13
no fantasy so okay um god anymore question from the audience from the auditorium
00:48:22
as they relate to fully quiet yeah but probably uh because of the final although there's one question
00:48:27
from from the european only if i'm not wrong yes it took the technique because we can't hear you
00:48:38
i'll i'll probably no yeah um i'll get the uh the release of c. with
00:48:43
a it's the vocal it's um but my question was about um the uh
00:48:48
the games uh can only as and uh uh thieves game and how they might develop in the future
00:48:55
versus obviously the big games which of the uh the known sporting games and i see that picture
00:49:04
would you like to answer from a competition standpoint from a development standpoint uh
00:49:09
from from province is really i think my understandings obviously the the
00:49:13
the uh the big numbers the big interested in those articles um but obviously maybe sports
00:49:19
basically in this will change the landscape slightly which is how those those two sports all your sleeker
00:49:24
relates to the n. b. a. to katie and i'm out those games mites a row
00:49:31
uh or not go in the future um versus or it's good i mean they can't
00:49:37
fever and the p. s. uh can i mean yes force yeah big
00:49:41
vans big publishers integrate joplin platforms but let's think about your sports
00:49:46
uh they represent for only two percent of the obvious just very low compared to all the games
00:49:53
the reason for that my explanation is that people one plate yes for the don't wanna recreational file that reality
00:49:58
which is kind of the same day that they can watch interview from that for every team
00:50:03
into the breach or you to gain you know whatever platforms broadcasting that
00:50:08
um so yes forces about all fantasy creation exactly sure movement
00:50:13
which was in a different way and if so
00:50:15
probably i could trust question which is a different involvement that's just the produce in the sport in the top
00:50:22
in that sense every qualification looking into your sports the easiest way is okay
00:50:27
i'm a football team actions will high one died to play in
00:50:31
front of a playstation incomplete again someone but i think there's nobody on
00:50:34
that i think your copy of uh sure she'll get involved
00:50:38
it to the top days which oddly other strategy how your nation with the obvious because they
00:50:42
get is this board games on your sports broadcasting they have no no not public almost
00:50:48
yet to add to that i think it's a good good can be i'm i'm fully supporting would just said but i think it can be good entrance
00:50:55
point just start with with the sport but it can only be the first
00:50:58
step into out on the road with many many steps under fire
00:51:03
i i i think that many of the of the be friends like real madrid open united picture themself us
00:51:09
as entertainment bread sport entertainment that's with q. new to use them in
00:51:14
professional football of course but they could also sell i don't know
00:51:19
of bathing fall or open up a hotel or whatever whatever them it might have minds all
00:51:25
it's nothing an actual just just to start thinking about league of legends or indian come to strike
00:51:30
and something that i that i'm i'm pretty sure we receive this message through the next yes
00:51:36
you know from our perspective to the sports simulation games are interesting
00:51:40
and we want to really push that for the that is
00:51:43
for us the the best entrance but also from a commercial point of view of what
00:51:47
i've seen is and i might be wrong but uh the n. b. a.
00:51:51
the the two k. leave out of yeah there was a big deal uh that it which
00:51:55
port for what is it ninety million or something like that for two years so
00:51:59
apparently the when you look at the commercial side um and when you look at
00:52:04
to what apparently no also the you gaming platform so uh uh investing
00:52:10
something is happening also eating a bit at the judicial sports and it took a
00:52:13
leak i think in this respect shows a certain direction which is uh
00:52:18
to some extent supported bass as well and i guess it's it's almost not is really requirement but
00:52:25
it's the affiliated traditional sports organisation is not then
00:52:29
evaluating itself with the e. sports organisation again
00:52:34
somebody else will sell event b. a. did not choose and be a two
00:52:38
k. n. h. l. is partnering with any generate team and i'm from
00:52:42
last night i guess i'm a big fan of the vegas golden knights
00:52:45
we play it this evening in the conference finals were very excited
00:52:49
i'd they have their own twitch streaming which they play n. h. l. eighteen so this this affiliation
00:52:55
is a very natural thing that's coming together that's i think why we sound like that
00:52:59
i mean i eat midi outings for example partnering with uh
00:53:04
feed suppliers who would then where the jersey of that respective football team
00:53:09
but with their and they don't get their actual name on the back they
00:53:11
put their their screen name either handle on the back 'cause that's cooler
00:53:15
and that so that's a natural fit we're also seeing
00:53:19
significant increase a in investment from sports organisations and
00:53:24
our dish owners a in the less traditional games of
00:53:28
example robert kraft onerous then doing a patriot
00:53:31
it's an investor and and it over well actually what chad itself
00:53:36
i think there you do you see a lot of that overlap starting to happen more and more
00:53:41
rick fox a former n. b. a. player i has been had begun faster and i'm
00:53:47
i it i i lead alleges to even i think now they've expanded other other games as well
00:53:52
for i was about five years now so he was a very early adopter in a space
00:53:57
uh but i i asked that continues to grow i think
00:54:00
we're gonna see much more of the traditional sport investment
00:54:03
sort of stretching out into blasts familiar ground because
00:54:08
as as my fellow panelists and said
00:54:10
i simulated games are very familiar this is the thing that if i
00:54:15
lifelike part i will recognise flip ah if it is less simulated form on a on a screen above me
00:54:21
i i want to necessarily recognise that giant stats are at the bottom of the league
00:54:26
alleges screen that you may have seen as you want i that the competition earlier
00:54:30
that has that starts to spread more i think federico made the point earlier there there's just act it will
00:54:35
eventually make its way into that understanding look at sports and the time is the traditional twenty first century
00:54:42
and if you compare really sure how we doubled in different regions might not be the same
00:54:46
so this strategy that watching back that's my no work in europe and we should develop or on a strategy that's my point
00:54:53
and uh the way his process on the and uh be number still been a shop
00:54:58
will not be the sound but maybe in this country but please double appear stretch
00:55:02
i look at asia to yeah i mean this is this is i mean thank you for uh for playing the ball to me
00:55:08
i mean if you want to know i mean uh uh you know the situation in age here all the way so
00:55:14
we started all of you to go in investigating it into researching for for the right inside so
00:55:20
weak you can download it at new thing that is for the website so sorry for
00:55:23
the little advertise with that was the only good occasion to me that you re filter tap
00:55:28
but i mean we're coming coming to mend now and and uh and i mean
00:55:32
the sporting a three three believe only we all agree it's a fast growing
00:55:35
industry and uh i mean talking about timing and uh to close out
00:55:41
imagine we're we're back here at the sporting two years time i mean i
00:55:45
eventually they the the you know the whole soul invited together to
00:55:48
use time so uh i mean who do you expect will be in
00:55:52
your see each that could be you know air by the way
00:55:56
uh and uh what kind of questions are are uh we we will u.
00:56:02
r. l. will you ask you know did it to to the neighbour
00:56:06
and i'm asking this question to to each of you to for the for your final statement please
00:56:12
it two years is a short period or long period while you're on
00:56:18
i i i would hope that i'm still sitting here that i have an undergraduate student too is very
00:56:24
interested in you sports it came to me to work on one of my other research projects
00:56:28
and then one day when he was in my office is now that i had bad on that
00:56:31
uh which is that the blizzard dad's i danes
00:56:35
hub on my desktop computer anything ah oh
00:56:39
course which projects are you working on now this is so cool you're my coolest professor
00:56:43
i told him to tell all his friends that he didn't tell any of them had that but he hasn't happened canning
00:56:48
researcher in a space this is the kind of thing where there is a tremendous amount of interest in self
00:56:53
i think the people who will be here that's not i think will be people who are in two
00:56:57
years time probably ten years younger than we are sitting up here and and talking about what's next
00:57:03
i i think the questions that would be asked on the batting french are probably going
00:57:07
to be actually related to addiction problem gambling and something that we haven't quite
00:57:12
sort of figured out completely on the gambling franklin as you merge together danes in gambling
00:57:17
games already bringing in math much of the discussion on what's healthy and what's not
00:57:22
i as well as the gambling component and new media and technology and i
00:57:26
think that there's a tremendous tremendous amount of opportunity for this discussion
00:57:30
and the reason i say two years is not a lot of time is because i don't think that we're going
00:57:34
to be so developed in two years that that's not one of the most important questions on the horizon
00:57:39
seven i'm i think i'm a young said that there will be a hierarchy
00:57:45
uh in organising the sports uh at least that is the objective and my question would be why
00:57:51
it didn't it to use to teen between this time why didn't you get it done
00:57:58
that's that's the highway check first with i think with you
00:58:09
state of mind there will be a a manager of a of a one of them
00:58:15
biggest jessica sports friends from likes or football
00:58:20
or soccer or whatever sitting here explaining
00:58:24
us that he has more media reached with the sports then his sister disposable
00:58:30
wow interesting statement today to yeah i think uh we're gonna see that
00:58:35
much more different ways to engage with your sports on the people
00:58:39
sitting here would not be only from the company's university and need yeah somehow analysis
00:58:45
we will seem many other companies are right now we can't imagine these
00:58:49
uh environment engaging somehow interacting with the content
00:58:54
create a new solutions and new ways to engage with the obvious that we should can
00:58:59
imagine right now so i i don't know if in two years time
00:59:02
maybe even faster we should be really open eyes open minded because
00:59:07
uh this is going very fast there's no orders for all we know is the speed of your sports
00:59:12
a number scrolling so definitely stay open man this the curious does that that's
00:59:17
where you can engage with your sports and you should talk on that
00:59:22
thank you very much uh i think it was a fantastic uh accommodation and talk
00:59:27
session on stage here at it and see if the if the final
00:59:31
final our office part uh so i really you know
00:59:34
appreciate uh your support and and i'll review and
00:59:38
thank you again for coming all the way down form of because i know you want to
00:59:41
you want to uh experience because it's so then they have you made already a
00:59:44
plan where where you wanna spend the next two three days here in switzerland
00:59:48
uh oh i'll be here and it's it's a at the lake or a few days as they i i've i've
00:59:54
so everybody here knows now i've never been to french speaking switzerland i'd been many times to
00:59:58
german speaking switzerland but i never to the west side seems very exciting for me
01:00:04
i asked you to delete a enjoy one of the very nice french batteries hit move on so
01:00:09
so uh that's what i can recommend to and in plenty of all the people in this audience eventually evolve

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Conference program

Welcome Words by David Eades
David Eades
15 May 2018 · 9:06 a.m.
Welcome Words by Philippe Leuba
Phillipe Leuba, Chef du Département de l'Economie et du Sport
15 May 2018 · 9:08 a.m.
Welcome Words by Grégoire Junod
Grégoire Junod
15 May 2018 · 9:13 a.m.
Welcome Words by Benoit Mariani
Benoit Mariani
15 May 2018 · 9:15 a.m.
Hacking the Future
Andy Walshe
15 May 2018 · 9:25 a.m.
Talkback Session: Smart Venues, Moderated by David Eades
Daniel Marion, John Rhodes, Claire Lewis
15 May 2018 · 10:18 a.m.
Talkback Session: Wearables and Data, Moderated by David Eades
Terho Lahtinen, Jean-Christophe Longchampt, Christophe Ramstein, Patrick Schoettker
15 May 2018 · 11:04 a.m.
Talkback Session: Fans and Data, Moderated by Rebecca Hopkins
Horesh Ben Shitrit, Pete Burns, David Lampitt, Clemens Schnellert
15 May 2018 · 11:46 a.m.
Interviews, Moderated by David Eades
Stéphane Guerry, Joey Tan, Olivier Glauser, Albert Mundet
15 May 2018 · 1:45 p.m.
Talkback Session: Machine Learning and AI, Moderated by Jay Stuart
Nicolas Chapart, Nicolas Déal, Johan Vounckx, Mehrsan Javan
15 May 2018 · 2:37 p.m.
Speech
Jochen Färber
15 May 2018 · 3:14 p.m.
Talkback Session: NextGen Video & Engagement, Moderated by Nicolas Henchoz
Christoph Heimes, Spencer Nolan, Pedro Presa, Alexandra Willis
15 May 2018 · 3:30 p.m.
Interview on Security
Earl Crane
15 May 2018 · 4:08 p.m.
Talkback Session: Cyber security and Digital Security, Moderated by Sébastien Kulling
Dang Duy, Thomas Shorrock, Jean-Pierre Hubaux, Simon Trudelle
15 May 2018 · 4:19 p.m.
Introduction of Day 2
David Eades
16 May 2018 · 9:35 a.m.
Social Business and Sport
Muhammad Yunus
16 May 2018 · 9:38 a.m.
Talkback Session: Designer Bodies - Yes or No? Moderated by David Eades
Roland Sigrist, Vincent Gremeaux, Carlos Canto Alvarez, Véronique Lugrin
16 May 2018 · 10:27 a.m.
Talkback Session: Designing for the Future, Moderated by Jay Stuart
Ali Russell, Emilio Risques, Véronique Michaud, Thilo Alex Brunner
16 May 2018 · 11:08 a.m.
Talkback Session: Protection through Innovation, Moderated by Mike Miller
Liam Mc Tiernan, Laurent Mekies, Eric Nauman, Martial Saugy, Mathieu Saubade
16 May 2018 · 12:04 p.m.
From Racing to the Road
Laurent Mekies
16 May 2018 · 1:32 p.m.
Talkback Session: Understanding the eSports Ecosystem, Moderated by Jay Stuart
Brent Barry, Anna Baumann, Julien Delalande, Michael Journot, Carlos "ocelote" Rodriguez Santiago
16 May 2018 · 2:05 p.m.
Talkback Session: What's next in eSports? Moderated by Lars Stegelmann
Brett Abarbanel, Stefan Kuerten, Jan Pommer, Federico Winer
16 May 2018 · 3:05 p.m.
Closing Words
David Eades
16 May 2018 · 4:06 p.m.