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uh peter thank you very much for your presentation and i enjoyed the way that you know that i
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enjoyed the opening they use the atlas is at the
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beginning because atlases i've always been very accessible
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and one of my uh concerns about this project is to question accessibility
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in terms that you yourself in your ah study point out the main uses
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that government departments university universities and to a lesser extent party groups
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but businesses and citizens traditionally have not being using this
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data and i found also working with open data
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a lot of the the open data research senses say they collect a
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lot of data but no one said twenty i get it
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because the people who could benefit from it actually intimidated by databases
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and visuals and they fall they don't to gauge and
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for this so that's my first question happy the second question i have is
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how would you measure the benefit of this and the cool is once
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again is is i guess for me not just about uh
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a communication but i hear oneself as you start off at the very beginning you very inspiring you supplied it
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people by pointing out these problems very passionately and how will
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that ability to and supply yeah come out through the use of this technology i think then my my
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my to a interest in the final one is this i will look if you were to say
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what would be success of this project end let's say five years down the track continues
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down the track what would you like to have achieved or seen for much
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date i'm not having the data uh um as it's currently
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existing a ninety five percent of that data is and use 'em but it's utilised for
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very specific technical reasons or it's collected because that's what people do um
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there's also an uh a group of of web accessible mapping environments
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which are very present but also not used very much um
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uh but we did find in our research that there's a number of
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so the technical groups or policymakers who are looking for those information
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or tools or information packages which are currently not made available
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in the decision making process so terms of institutional or cannons
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all budgeting decision making the data that exists is often not use
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or the indicators are not used uh for uh um target setting
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or for for for measuring success of of public policies
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that that is that a tragedy because they is uh you know that's a classic problem of governmental spectral
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divisions of the there's a to do division that collects the data as a
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division makes decision but if they get data collect for other purposes
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that's not always the case there's some really leading you know
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a local governments or regional governments who are um
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tying the performance to actual measures of success that they proving on the uh
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tangible performance yeah after you do it um and so we're trying to um
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make the important the performance indicators shopper and uh
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automatic update able by linking the data to the databases in which they reside and
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the that that up to it so we don't ideally require third party
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to connect those databases you have the uh make the fresh but to to eh
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that were the the the workshop um process that's relies to this as well
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helps the project requires the owners of the stated actually begin
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to think about how to use them and so they
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there's a there's a process of of institution learning is to that says look you have to state and uh we
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just come in and say we wanna make them visual women are connected we wanna make them more useful
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but the other group did you talk about is really really
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important that requires a a programmatic embedding off um
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communicated content which is available in schools
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or in universes or research
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institutions or in public we museums or and in venues of public
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discourse archives and so what we we we were we save look at part of your problematic mission
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is to not just make data available in in
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bookshelves on on a digital data bases
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but it can make make it possible and institute programs enable
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the axis or the accessibility of this data in a
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i'm in a manner which doesn't require a special effort by the users but is part of the
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you know experience take high schools ones or you know elementary schools are um
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tourists or visitors or um on the high level of
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connectivity it it is fine to the e. u. decision make somebody who says well
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we need new programs need to budget no programs on carbon buyers sequestration
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that is currently norm maps that given up to date
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view on the state of bicycle station across the
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open regions so that this the data exists that the
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communication a translation of that data has been
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the form do uh there's important policy innovations
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duo and uh in progress to look at i caution transformation in in in your
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particularly in in in marginal areas like uh the increasingly drying and melting appendage
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so i think there is i'm really just the so the vet tempted say is look uh we want to
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make sure that the data is as accessible as possible that's built into programs and that we can make
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the use of uh under utilised a a technology of linked
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open data environments to then connect different alpine regions
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two eight common uh visualisation environment where they can make comparisons
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uh cause comparable indicators 'cause that's so the fundamental
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purpose of the lexus s. make the indicators which all
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residing in different environments it different numbers in different
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categories in different regions there's no common set of indicators and try to harm a nice
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them which the the fundamental purpose of the suspects i don't know whether bush
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oh i have exactly useful now um i watch any as well my we're
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hoping that this is i'm not spawning a number of um um
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environments of use that that we enable a eh augment uh this particular school
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learning about the um the national bumper stickers but but that
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atlas uh indian atlas the sanskrit atlas about the environment
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um and so when people run around more readily with these things then
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with box i think we need to find a way of praying
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that information some uh not preach register the programmable but in very accessible and and and and uh
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i use the word accessible i think that's key um what is come become
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part of the you know uh that back to a discovery but
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uh that's the same two questions first of all thank you no no no no
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no i have an additional one so first of all to thank you uh
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to keep detect accessible really accessible and it's not for everybody s. clear i've i
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have says problem it's the th in zurich run out for the test
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to cut too graphic in c. to to really ask me for money to get
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all the status and then i said i wondered you paid it was
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meant taxes so and says sec but the second question what do you trust
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the in a a good to a kind of announcer but i
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would like to hear repeated more because this as a classy somehow never finish
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it how far do you go because when i'm working with my students
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in the alpine region people are always interested in the solutions so called
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solutions because since you're architect architects are always asked for some solutions
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so how far will you cool i mean in terms there are really good case studies
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how is for instance abandonment how can you
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work against abandonment let's say to change
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this experience exchange this experience between different countries to in intervene yeah we
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found out it's very similar to switzerland purse but there are some differences to
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to make it somehow accessible c. six experience we have or that soon
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and we lay trees five hundred less than five hundred people in this without it's not possible to survive
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not in terms of economy in terms of social encounter and says kind
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of it's it's it's the terms as well but it is somehow
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it's it's easy it's already eat it it's not the solution about you know what
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i mean i think i would be very interested especially it's not only
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in the academic work but season people living in the return to have have
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sees knowledge that as people have similar problems and they have sometimes solutions
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yeah i'm not just point and idea because you
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the opportunity is and that's the fundamental purpose of the whole up and space
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project the uh the the social cohesion program that you know that
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fans programmatic into action because ultimately what would have any opportunity for and maybe it
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was positive creating a common narrative or common you know story about um
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demographic change out or settlement change or a existential you
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know challenges risks and deprivation in alpine regions which
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on the one hand uh allow this understanding that there's a common narrative that that isn't
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only part of this village or even that region or even that country but
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is is an alpine experience and that therefore maybe some of the
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maybe not solution that relief in in measures of uh tackling
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the channels just go with that can become part of a commons store of knowledge that maybe
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a one village which has discovered some way of dealing with that and some of the
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a culture innovations uh impart introduced to any will agree
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to self sufficiency for instance we have in the
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western part of our part of a wine area a a remote village which
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has no quote connection and is deprived and and and loses population
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and then have to ship the diesel power by ski lift up
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there and so they have gonna gonna quite important transformation barely
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used at a coach uh and uh a renewable energy and a
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different way of dealing with water and uh animal husbandry
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not too isn't is not the answer but they have achieved some sort of
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a mint for fame and what they've done and so there are
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no visitors that stay within three or four weeks a time and
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so forth they um stable as the population that isn't
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an answer for everyone but i think this kind of trying to find a future um the on you know
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the despair of discovery that there is no real future in
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someone many of the settlement um this tool launch
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make that possible but it does it talks about the need of doing that
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and we can in fact do exactly what you said find those
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disappearing demographic area so that's declining demographic is identified them and then begin
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to eat to connect the personal stories and and uh hopefully uh
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figure out a way in which the common destiny of those uh
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settlements can become a a kind of a reality one uh attempt
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to find solutions and networking those groups are so low
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just one second because in the in the beginning you hurt us
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is uh in necessity we have to build more you
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have to twenty five but we shouldn't forget to some pendant
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and for instance i couldn't find a map of europe
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is abandoned landscape because everybody's telling me when older been is
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this in twenty years fifty percent of the good populations
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living in cities and then when i ask and what happens with the landscape around you don't get any data
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that's uh and really you'd come kind of very good might not only if uh estate is yams but the rest of
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europe whereas the band and landscape so we produced it ourselves
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and it's um belief you missus scale of landscape
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abandoned landscape or and and more or less abandoned especially in
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the mediterranean area and we shouldn't forget his uh and
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people are still living sarah and uh how do we deal
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with sis a society is not only silence crap
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the polity focus in germany and nice in germany through ring
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your another state so regions that have rapidly declining
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population the question of our existing services too
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you know two families in a formal village of five hundred uh to talk
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uh medical so and how do you maintain um it's
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the perspective for those that want to stay they even though that is a decision to abandon those village and so this
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i decline with grace or let's say a controlled um
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a t. development can be very positive thinking if you you need to
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tackle it to something um maybe to liberating liberating um landscapes from
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sometimes not suppose it tractors or two and i'm i'm sure have thing it's very it's very frustrating
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to to get through the shorter this into some discussions is to don dance all these

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Conference program

Présentation de la journée de séminaire
Panos Mantziaras, Directeur de la Fondation Braillard Architectes
30 Nov. 2017 · 9:09 a.m.
Allocution
Sylvain Ferreti, Directeur des services d’urbanisme du Canton de Genève
30 Nov. 2017 · 9:14 a.m.
Densuisse - recherche prospective sur la densification de l’espace urbain suisse
Anne Veuthey, Géographe, fondation Braillard architectes
30 Nov. 2017 · 9:28 a.m.
Densuisse Part 2 - Urban forms, typologies and ways of life
Laurence Beuchat, Architecte, fondation Braillard architectes
30 Nov. 2017 · 9:44 a.m.
Densuisse Part 3 - La métropole Alpino-Lémanique
Roberto Sega & Antoine Vialle
30 Nov. 2017 · 9:59 a.m.
Densuisse Part 4 - Metropolitan countryside
Metaxia Markaki, Architecte
30 Nov. 2017 · 10:25 a.m.
Densuisse Part 5 - Cores & edges (2016) - Levels, landscape and infrastructures (2017)
Frédéric BONNET, Architecte, professeur - Académie d’architecture, Mendrisio
30 Nov. 2017 · 10:44 a.m.
Réponses / analyses du projet Densuisse
Dominique Bourg & Günther Vogt, Resp: Philosophe, professeur - institut de géographie et durabilité, Faculté des géosciences et de l’environnement, Unil - Paysagiste, professeur Institut für Landschaftsarchitektur, EPFZ
30 Nov. 2017 · 11:04 a.m.
Projet Atlas - Atlas de développement durable pour l’espace alpin
Peter DROEGE, Architect, professor, Liechtenstein Institute for Strategic Development
30 Nov. 2017 · 11:53 a.m.
Réponses / analyses du projet Atlas
Robert Sadleir & Günther Vogt
30 Nov. 2017 · 12:10 p.m.
The «healthy city» as an unrealised potential theory and didactics of concrete utopia design
Stéphane Sadoux, Directeur laboratoire cultures constructives, Grenoble school of architecture, université Grenoble Alpes
30 Nov. 2017 · 12:20 p.m.
Réponses / analyses du projet «healthy city»
Rémi Baudouï & Robert Sadleir
30 Nov. 2017 · 12:53 p.m.
Construire la ville circulaire
Marion Gardier & Coralie Coutellec
30 Nov. 2017 · 2:50 p.m.
Scenarios for a collaborative city - sustainable utopia of the polycentric ruhr
Alexander SCHMIDT, Architecte, professor - Institute of City Planning + Urban Design, University Duisburg-Essen
30 Nov. 2017 · 3:21 p.m.
Réponses / analyses du projet sustainable utopia of the polycentric ruhr
Pascal Rollet & Günther Vogt
30 Nov. 2017 · 3:46 p.m.
Composite metabolic landscapes: The case of the greater Luxembourg region
Nikos Katsikis, Architecture postdoctoral researcher, University of Luxembourg
30 Nov. 2017 · 3:59 p.m.
Réponses / analyses du projet greater Luxembourg region
Sabine Barles & Robert Sadleir
30 Nov. 2017 · 4:20 p.m.
Abris d’urgence à Genève
Philippe Bonhôte, Guillaume Roux-Fouillet, Nadia Carlevaro & Tedros Yosef
30 Nov. 2017 · 4:46 p.m.
Réponses / analyses du projet Abris d’urgence à Genève
Dominique Bourg & Pascal Rollet
30 Nov. 2017 · 5:09 p.m.
Jaipur 2035: la place de l’eau dans la patrimonialisation urbaine
Rémi Papillault & Savitri Jalais
30 Nov. 2017 · 5:22 p.m.
Réponses / analyses du projet Jaipur 2035
Pascal Rollet, Sabine Barles
30 Nov. 2017 · 5:45 p.m.
Résumé et conclusion
Bernard Declève & Panos Mantziaras
30 Nov. 2017 · 5:57 p.m.

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