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text okay it's quick small chunks. Um
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easy to absorb and developing those
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sorts of things. It's yeah right now is
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all the responsibility of the teaches.
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But I think moo could do more to have
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content easily available to grab
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examples to grab. Um bits of metal
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content to build up your courses
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quicker. And it's not just about what
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the teacher does it should be making
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students create content in that way as
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well suspect making it more easily easy
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consumption. I guess something thinking
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about these things also the virtual
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reality stuff I have been thinking
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about virtual reality for like twenty
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years. Um and it's always been coming
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coming it's coming it's coming. It's
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yeah right on Monday when I get home my
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I have a a a virtual reality hits a
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waiting for me. Um and I should be
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playing with a lot. And I'm eight I got
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some good ideas was thinking this week
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about how you would show you middle
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individuality world literally as a web
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page that that kind of thing. But then
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the mortgage simulations. And you pass
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user information to those somebody who
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could pass parameters into those apps
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you do something. And maybe you get a
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great for you get assessment the
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assessment gets pushed back into middle
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again I was just thinking has that
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gonna work and what's it's like a LTIVR
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I'm gonna coin it now feel TI so yeah
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that's been interesting to so yeah some
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things. I guess at that a beings also
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struggling a lot with the french. So I
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I I'm missing a lot of details of the
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presentations which is frustrating and
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just encourages me to learn french more
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is that have it easy to his own cop who
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the platform comic will piece of pot as
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you did the more which is a promise
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you'll on top of a school posse would
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new Orleans all is this a CI a like
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decision the bush pretty much a key
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piece director more steel. She's on
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often it just to see like a multi
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sources there so about yeah you could
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do this come up as a suspect I think
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I'm just to GW is the social but for
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and what exactly what planned so what
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yeah the question is how can we do the
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do for this you students not to use
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good who's ah oh well I well no it's
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it's not meant to replace those things.
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I mean I use about six apps for just
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chat we probably older new rules right
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now we're working on the middle
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messaging and notifications to improve
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that's even more and actually I said to
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my company last week I said when I get
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home next week the whole company is
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just gonna use them into rap for all
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communications because I think it'll
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improve the at very quickly. Um so you
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yeah I think middle just be another
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tap. So you may be used telegram with
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your frames and use Google plus for
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this group and you use Scott for work
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cool or something but you you use
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different things for different groups
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and that will probably always be like
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that. But hopefully you might use
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material for your school stuff. And
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it'll work as well as the other ones I
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think we're close actually it with this
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it'll be should be cool well here is
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that have you noticed how the old
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converging they all look the same now I
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spoke Messinger and the apple I miss
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each ad telegram and Scott pinnacle
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pretty much exactly the same you can
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have individual chats all group chats
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you can send gifts and pictures a my
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cons they're all the side. So I'm the
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the the middle one is getting close and
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so it will be the same it'll look just
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like so that's a go I've got a question
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for you guys what's the one thing you
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would change about all the most you
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you're from this institution here yeah
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so it's the same will so I I have seen
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it or how what still coming down to who
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set up I don't know is that what
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direction would you like it to be what
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you think it should be for your little
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sisters and brothers who haven't not
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yet using it I think it would be cool
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if you could configure it as you want
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like a colour so you can structure it
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the way you want because some times
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like the teacher to it one way it's not
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much coffee it's all very cool good
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suggestion for me as a student user I
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think it's a very easy to use and we
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don't actually for for example I think
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the teachers has I have a more to the
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problems other than those two and the
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the real question you think it for for
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them because yeah oh yes. I I recall
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for me. I it's very useful for
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everybody but I think for us. It's
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pretty easy to use but they put a we
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have of course so for example of
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communication we have the the documents
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on the on the and of course and I think
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the on the board the with difficult is
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it to find the the key the key like you
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to to enter and in the course ah then
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you you you do have to come to lectures
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sometimes I so for me as a simple user
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I think so okay. So well anyone else
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got any suggest it's the for me what I
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was looking for in middle east maybe
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something more that's a lie something
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more for me like every website if we
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apses doing something for say students
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I think at one time we want to use more
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than ones you smooth for me and my
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friends in classroom I own for really
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need to have everything else on we were
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discussing yesterday about something
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like press I'm education just for
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having reminder to say oh I have to put
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yeah silent tomorrow don't forget it
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and and waited for see what some
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obviously I'm improvement we make for
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that size experience for students that
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that point is one I keep hearing is
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simply from students what is next what
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do I have to do now which I think is a
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problem a big problem we have to work
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on that we have started actually that
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it's something I think we we need to
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solve so yeah okay anyone oops audience
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mister what is your vision of wood
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early twenty S you wanna see it well
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it'll be like I said we pretty
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invisible it'll be well but it's very
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hard to predict twenty years cheese oh
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okay I ten years yeah look it's gonna
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shrink to you won't even notice it's
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gonna be almost whole accessible
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through whatever device but they won't
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be screens very much they'll be glasses
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you put on they'll be things you put in
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your ear doubly things you have
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embedded in your brain and you'll be
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communicating three messaging too this
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system which will be almost like an IRI
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or something yeah it'll be you'll be
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talking to it's talking with its I
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think and that's very interesting I so
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I don't I didn't think it was gonna be
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of a possible to download information
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your head but I read some research
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recently that suggests that might be
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possible. Um like on the matrix the
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movie where she needs to learn have a
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fly this helicopter. And he downloads
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the the pilots the pilot information
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straight ahead. It's just goes okay
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that's gonna mention twice a
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helicopter. Um I thought this
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ridiculous. Um but I I read something
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in it. I don't nineteen twenties I mean
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how many times now when you wanna ask
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request a trick question you talk to
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your phone now right you do a Google
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search or something within seconds you
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know that answer that Amy is this time
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can be almost nothing you will know it
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that stuff they will be you know. So I
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don't know maybe we'll be doing
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something else we want be teaching
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anymore I maybe it won't even have
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universities I don't know if it'll be
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ten use could be very interesting time
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well we'll just have more slim fines
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and it's gonna be more or less the same
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maybe that but it would make us feel
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better what do you think it's gonna be
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ten years' anybody else think got some
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ideas you think will have universities
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in ten years all scattered like blocks
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yeah yeah you know I'm working in
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morals from for for adults so this
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being when you it's a continuous
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training and and and I think is
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becoming more and more important. And
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now you will not have menu for me
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anymore we do we need a CT on one side
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squadrons of the side. And poor fraud
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ut another way probably will wow how
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would we would like to see to see them
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walking more together and also private
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companies as well. yeah okay but my
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dear yeah yeah anyone else wanna
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predict. So I I don't know what to more
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there will be but I think I mean while
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you're here oh sorry I things of value
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is no more about the content the value
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is about the way you coach people or
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you many when you're on the side my as
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the way you want decide or so students
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is your weight is way you are mentoring
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insane yeah and I think this is the
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next university of information to face
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and and you can see with some cinnamon
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so more of a personal a personalised
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support continuous support like I don't
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want to students when they say we need
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to do some nice experiments. And to be
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able to move blocks introduce things
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and to get information what's next to
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get the information zero I I feel the
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the major changes going to be what
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happened in the media in other words
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some would be content providers some
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will be audience. Now call the
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students. And the there will be
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operators like we do groups. And as
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more and more tasks being a traumatised
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industrialised. Um we will see waves of
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changes and the the winners will be the
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organisations universities or training
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centres that do understand the learning
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experience and the learning curve that
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is expected by the end users. Um so
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that they can address the needs either
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to be to have a tutor ought to be self
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pacing they're burning. But basically
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the three main issues or industrial
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eyes the content production serve the
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user needs. And and illustrate the the
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whole thing which is basically what
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cool provide. So once to think about
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it. it's yeah so we just you know how
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do you guys feel about the world
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changing so rapidly. "'cause" nobody
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hears if experience such change like
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but you think the when you'll teach is
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when you are teaching when you are
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running things. How do you feel about
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that the double feature excited or you
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came to change the world a use case I
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think I'm scared okay because they
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ninety percent of the our courses or
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with the computer. And I heard the that
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it would be better if a student stay at
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home. And then violates the side. And I
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just thought if I have questioned and
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they listen to "'em" and explaining his
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team in the in the video. I don't know
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how I can have a great answer yeah I
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think we should avoid this feature yeah
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we we can make the future as we want we
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don't want the matrix I hope where we
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are all lying in the billboards with
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wise in virtual reality all the time.
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Um I I like getting together with
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people and I think most people do so we
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need to make this happen yeah good
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that's all solved yeah yeah oh if we
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can really be skewed because form is
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different I mean this like computer
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scientists business I changing is
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having you work new experiments and
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improving but something that's web and
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always you have new won't won't be able
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to change is having someone that no
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knowledge that is around you I can just
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you using sites if you know every tear
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it apart everything every line of code
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of to do that and you have the people
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just right of from right in your site
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and say okay you can do that that's the
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record but if you change is that it
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works better I it's cheaper and it's
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faster and maybe some say that
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something you will use if you just see
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like you said before with my creeks and
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you have everything way if you want to
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have stick to the chance to have
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someone that's as already experiments
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and you that's so it set if we were all
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wearing virtual reality helmets right
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now. And actually I mean astride idea
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right now. But I can come to
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Switzerland very easily you know would
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be pretty cool. "'cause" it's a lot I
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got along travel back this weekend. But
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but yeah no it is something about being
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in the same place is still very very
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high fidelity this Fisher reality isn't
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it very good resolution well we went
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that escalated quickly yeah it's
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everyone ready to go home do you think
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I almost for that we have something
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from you from every student here just
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for you to be like us excellent. I am I
00:47:58
if I may just I wanted to to say a very
00:48:08
big thank you to all of the sponsors of
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the conference and for all of you for
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coming of course but what's a specially
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thank you for the institution here to
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to find never know how to say this
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movie so at ha hash she S so well sorry
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it just to me English just like he's so
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something he's he's so no but I I
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really I think this is being a very
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beautiful very well organised I think
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everyone would agree it's run exactly
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like the cliche of a swiss clock and
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has been a a real pleasure and one of
00:48:52
the best movies ever I would say so
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thank you very much for inviting us all
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here and and especially the students
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and for helping and and taking part in
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Spain really really helpful five and
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someone offered to move don't we oh you
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want the real on so yeah it's long the
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real answer well in I was working at a
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university. I was in helping a lot of
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stuff trying to use the internet for
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teaching and I had a very interesting
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job which they call the boundary ride
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was like a cowboy. So I basically a
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random office in the morning I spent
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the whole die just looking around the
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campus just with with different people
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helping them we problems. So one minute
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the cleaner one minute on it top vice
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chancellor teach. So I kind of got to
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know everybody at this time I had long
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hair yeah and a big be it and I was
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kind of like the internet person and by
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could see that everyone was having
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trouble trying to use even the basic
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stuff let alone things teaching. And I
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tried different tools that with and I
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eventually decided that I I need to
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make some so I sat down one day I had
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nothing yet zero. And I had to make a
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folder on my computer to put my working
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as like what am I gonna call this so I
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started thinking of the nine mood and I
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was trying different things first names
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so I had a in the topping the modular
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object oriented dynamic learning
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environments but these words all came
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from my full so what this thing was
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going to say yeah I thought it would be
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my hobby I thought I would work on the
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soft evenings spare time I thought I'd
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be academic eventually. And very
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quickly I stopped everything else just
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a little that's being this white now
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for fifteen years yeah and that's the
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short on stuff probably stop a are a
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lot of the I could talk for two hours
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Laughter and has been without to our
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first child and such teachers
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originally this good question because I
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I had this point of view of humans
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learning and the teachers and students
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in mood to just settings but then not
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be routine so you have the ability to
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give people permissions and part of
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what I used to recommend and to you my
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courses was give students teacher
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admissions to make things. But most
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people don't do this I stick with the
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default roles but yes it is a course
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management system and so it is about
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management of so I guess the the
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teachers I think now most of the work
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is happening about the students
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experience because ninety nine percent
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of the users of are students in fact so
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much more important to focus on this
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now okay thanks multiple no move the
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can also And the speed the seasonal
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funded in this object or move the than
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I would explain this already it at a so
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the the module I mean when I can I had
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the these words. And I also wanted it
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to be something you could say I want to
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that see a would that meant something
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but was also an acronym acronym signing
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french and also the domain name had to
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be so yeah I once I got some little in
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the middle. It's an English word. It's
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not used very much it's very most
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people we speak English don't know it's
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an English word. It's a very skew a
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word used in like nineteen ninety or
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something like this a long time ago but
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it's it means the process of doing
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something in a unstructured. So you you
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it's across of two words muse use like
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the use and do you know you draw on a
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piece of paper using and do do. So the
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idea is that you would you would look
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around the the do different things and
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you would learn almost non
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intentionally you would just pick it up
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by doing which is exactly what we all
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do on these things now as we get into
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click that it and you know I really
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think the following right you kind of
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just follow your inclination and you
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end up the back then in the beginning
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of the last decade this was not so
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common these are not hard questions we
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then there's something more palace the
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platform you treat it "'cause" I tell a
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factual dish executives on the team
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would help to connect platform okay
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well some of this is my like my
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reasonings one it's free open source
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right people can just get it and use it
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in the beginning I spent a lot of time
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putting willow into places on the
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internet where people could find that
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it's now this is school search engine
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optimisation ACR but they were the last
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decade many places where people had
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scripts. PHP scripts little programs
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doing different things. And always make
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sure moves listed in all these things.
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And sometimes it was surprising people
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are looking for a little things that
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they would find that's a whole learning
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management system sitting here and
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downloaded. So the afraid but secondly
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I think one of the things that made it
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popular was it was one of the first
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systems that made of course as a list
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of things to do. It's such a simple
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simple idea it's so simple. And yet
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noise systems do that mostly. So if you
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look at black borrow web CT they have
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content discussions. Um another thing
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separated by time whereas in little
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everything is combined in two weeks or
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topics I thought this was the most
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basic white atlantic close and so I
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might than this way and I expected that
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the community would come up with new
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interesting close formats because
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that's a plug in the course format this
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this display is a plugin actually there
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are very few course format plugins that
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change this basic least idea and so I
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think a lot of people when they saw at
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the time felt very into people wait
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yeah okay that's good good honest we
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call this process scaffolding
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scaffolding your expectations. It's
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just like when you build a building in
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put a scuffle. It's a structure yeah
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probably it's probably more reasons
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well actually the third and biggest
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reason is the move from the beginning I
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always feel teen and always thought
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about sustainability. It's so important
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you know open source projects stalking
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someone will yeah it seems to be the
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very last thing people think about they
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get a grind or some money or some time
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to build software but then I don't plan
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how it's going to leave and five and so
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they in two thousand and four what I
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came up with the middle partner program
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the middle partners are essential to
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the sustainability yeah it's angel just
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having a community using it does not
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necessarily make a project you need
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people who up I need to work on some
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and the pardon is the middle part was
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to the the experts in the middle
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community other ones who are paint for
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the development the cool sustainability
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of the project. So this super
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important. And I think when I started
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that no other open source projects had
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such a bit had "'em" business model
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some Mike it sustainable and I think
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that's why a lot of them have
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disappeared where is mood was still
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here so did you think when you start
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soon without that it would create such
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a huge community ah I see I've been
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using open source software since I
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would say nineteen eighty five so I was
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very involved in open source software
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from a long time and I knew the power
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all that the power to change type
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software changes in and share. It's
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very close to acted in academia you
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know when you write when you are
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researching you invent something you
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publish a paper to tell everybody and
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everyone she is this information that's
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the sci model it so you know and so
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natural and good it feels good to
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sharing communicate so it's always been
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the best mode for me. Um now academics
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is not so and your research papers get
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locked up by publishes you have to buy
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them it costs a lot of money it's not
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good but I knew that if mood was open
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source that a lot of people would like
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it and use it but I wasn't quite
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prepared for how many so I was
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surprised I thought it would be much
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small this day I put up on the internet
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someone in Canada downloaded and
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installed it and started using it for a
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school that was like well slide names
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Jacob remain. And he was seventy six is
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all yes like unexpected I used it in a
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goal school like a secondary school I
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was like wow are this universities. So
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I was just surprised immediately and
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then you can still see the early
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discussion the first discussions about
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who are still on top. So you can go
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back and see them still and back then I
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had so much input from people. I was
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putting out new releases every couple
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days. So every few days I put out any
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version of middle. Um people would say
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that's a bug. And then go to sleep. And
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then they wake up in the morning. And
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you know that they here in Europe or in
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america. And meanwhile during the night
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the striking was working fixing and I'd
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wake up in the morning and there's a
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new version of Nero and it has new
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feature it's always got all the new
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stuff and so it became very exciting
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this cycle. So got pretty so yes it's
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very cool I'm I'm very very lucky as
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personally I can go anywhere in the
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world and find some friends now it's
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these are nice questions and then I
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have a trick one a good okay. So enough
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ideas that I'm students and using
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movable almost everyday and no seems to
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years I'm also developing something so
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have both sides of the your and as a
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student I always surprised to see that
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teacher using that as a PDF symmetry.
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And just imagine that's you have every
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student that using will like provoke
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just hear what we use a two down sorry
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because yeah this is this is so true
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that move do is used very badly ninety
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percent of the time and it's the the
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generation of people who are teaching
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with middle in the last ten years never
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took an online course it off and it's a
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big it's been a big problem in my PHD
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originally I thought if I built the
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tools people would understand the menus
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though but they don't people have their
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own conceptions of learning and
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teaching from when I did that's cool
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man university and so they do things
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the same way. And most of that
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generation the first thing they wanna
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do is put PD f.'s. And put contents and
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the lecture notes okay yeah I put in
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there. And maybe weeklies maybe maybe
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in assignments and and that's all but
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as you can see from the talks he many
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experts to do you know had a start
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using little there some tools they
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removed with get real depth I mean the
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wise you can use forums a still unlike
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any other forums on other tools anyway
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I think workshops the databases
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"'cause" stories and and all these
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tools have pedagogical things in on
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that nobody ever uses which is very
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sad. So we get back to our card focus
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which is on usability. So it's about
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people knowing how to use these tools
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and learning how to use yeah that's a
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big work I think well having a second
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round that a lot of the remote remote
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controls and more difficult for the
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mood for sort of controls most of most
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of our spectrum we're gonna filters
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from what in also accessible promoting
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exactly promote low you click on the
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maximum fifty percent of it well I it's
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been international from the stuff
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because of the internet. So what I I
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said that I put it on the internet one
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day like the act canadian was using it
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and then if you look back at the
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versions I think I added the
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translations in version one point zero
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three or something very very early and
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straight away I had people volunteering
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to translate into multiple languages.
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So I the language supporters been
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anyway since the beginning. And now we
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have I think it's a hundred and twenty
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languages or more but what I found
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interesting was the culprit cultural
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differences internationally. So in a
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stride yeah it's not possible to get
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more than one hundred percent probably
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the same here yeah but in America you
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can get a hundred and ten plus and and
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I was like well it's a meticulous and I
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ice five forward for mathematical
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reasoning for some time before I
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realised like I shouldn't fight this
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it's a cultural thing with the united
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states of America that I can have more
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than a hundred percent and all okay and
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we rewrite the great bulk to allow this
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right so you know even even I thought
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it was stupid at a lot of developers
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think quite a lot of things that people
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want a stupid it's what I do is what
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they need is we have to implement these
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things. So it does complicate the the
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little bit to be international. But I
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was talking to someone he I think it's
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really quite you know the country like
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Switzerland you have more than one
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official language here you have more
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than one official culture. And it I
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think it makes life complex as a
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country but also you have an
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understanding of multiculturalism and
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everyone at least can work on fixing
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these problems and and working out how
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to deal with it whereas someplace is a
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very Mona cultural and I don't even
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realise that other people can think
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differently or better the high
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differently do things differently so
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yeah I'm very happy that movie is a a
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multicultural place. Yeah why did it
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shows and that process that essence
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very beginning yeah open source was my
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fault mode. So it's essential I think
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it's what makes a little there's always
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saying in like a know it like a a
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research platform you know everybody
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can study how to do online learning and
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shape a practise without having to
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worry about licenses costs things like
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that oh "'cause" "'cause" of the the
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plastic could shock for fuckers like
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that the second one you can see some
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that you did look was the move the
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what's that S it's us right I would
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expect this no I would seriously is
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like I am not even though you know
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you're asking very nice questions and
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it I had under no illusion that it's a
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perfect piece of software I use
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everything to right it's middle very
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complex it has many liars. So it's a at
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all to media lines of source code in
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the bottom and these too many many jobs
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and they integrate with many many
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systems but the person who installs
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into has to choose which pieces to use
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and to configure it probably and then
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you have the teachers who take this
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configuration of blue and they have to
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implement a course and they have to use
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some things and not use other things.
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Um in a descriptions that have to be
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clear by that each it needs to be a way
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of user interface and most teachers I
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have no chance to know it is they're
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not software designers. So you know
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looking just so far that H is the
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responsible but even the students are
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responsible about students are
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responsible for giving feedback you
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know way to teach is to help improve
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teaches. Um and so there's a lot of
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responsibilities a lot of this the
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results ease up or experience a bad
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experience because things are difficult
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to get a file from one place to another
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or it's difficult to to format
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something in a particular way all is
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you know all the problems of technology
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coming together. Um and yeah on top of
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that you also have the internet itself
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which you know why five sometimes
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doesn't work so this sometimes that
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work and usually when someone is trying
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to use moo and anything goes wrong I
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always blame a little was it was down
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downright. It's not not always middle.
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Um anyway I think I might focus on
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usability will help because it's about
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simplifying interface for everybody and
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it gives everyone more ability to
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produce quality of a result makes
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sense. So it's a job we all have to
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work on and you could see from
00:21:41
presentations that everyone is trying
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to solve these problems and work do you
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still have new ideas about developing
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without or is it only of the or indeed
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the department work some ah well the
00:22:02
roadmap of middle some of it comes from
00:22:05
the community. Um some of that I never
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I've never even another because I mean
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I come to these conferences and I see
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really cool things that I never heard
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about before you know that people are
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doing in the community which is really
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practical but I have many ideas sure my
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list of ideas is like a thousand
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things. And I'm always trying to push
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them into the process and encouraged by
00:22:36
developers to work on on some things
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and not other things yeah I have a lot
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of ideas there's a there's many many
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things not done yet. So is your idea as
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plugin or to the the but basically no I
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focus more on the basic too because the
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plugins the community develops and yeah
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there there are many that some of them
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plugins straight yeah but I guess is my
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job to focus on the core formidable
00:23:10
particularly yeah if you could start
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your project motel all over again would
00:23:21
you do something differently or
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completely differently depends on which
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level it would still be open source the
00:23:31
why that community work some things
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would be pretty similar. Um but on the
00:23:36
technical level it would become if you
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started with today's technology it
00:23:40
would be a very very different type of
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system yeah you know I'm the the middle
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using now was not my first attempt it
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was much the prototype. So I had a
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couple of prototypes that I started.
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And rejected the reason this once tie
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was because I used PHP and PHP at the
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time was the only language that you
00:24:04
could use on very very cheap web
00:24:07
hosting the the very first really web
00:24:10
hosting starts become very cheap like
00:24:12
five dollars a month. And you could run
00:24:15
a PHP program there. And so this was a
00:24:18
good the very good thing for murder
00:24:20
would like P like people run Mouton
00:24:22
service easily. Um but it's not the
00:24:27
nicest language. And now the techniques
00:24:33
of really of balls people have their a
00:24:35
new frameworks many new frameworks menu
00:24:38
languages the front ends the Java
00:24:41
scripts and the HTML in the CSS of the
00:24:44
front end of appearance of of of the
00:24:47
web now is very involved since then you
00:24:52
know what I started Miro all that you
00:24:53
know are talked to manually as capital
00:24:56
letters. But it's really stuff but yeah
00:25:01
things the very much nice and now from
00:25:05
a computer science point. So yeah it
00:25:07
would be the lot but nobody can see the
00:25:14
card right usually it's it's out there
00:25:17
on the show you develop do you have any
00:25:19
computer science will know a bit yeah
00:25:22
yeah I mean I'm ill you know with the
00:25:26
apple you just it's a nap it's like any
00:25:28
other system you'd it's just gonna be
00:25:30
it's more about the communication
00:25:32
people not thinking about the the
00:25:34
programming anymore okay you say that
00:25:42
make sure sure are using modelling very
00:25:45
different way maybe fronts
00:25:47
functionality features so it's been a
00:25:50
three days that you're here and what's
00:25:53
your vision of our vision of wood or if
00:25:57
you have to summarise here what you're
00:25:59
selling three D three days what you
00:26:02
what would you keep and what would you
00:26:04
throw away as in that school but ID a
00:26:08
dark keep it all that's like saying
00:26:11
beautiful soup which ingredients which
00:26:14
you throw away doesn't they're all go
00:26:16
together so there's been some very
00:26:19
technical presentations. It's this
00:26:21
being teaches being all sides site. I
00:26:28
like as I said before I love this
00:26:31
culture you have here there's a little
00:26:34
bit more all the research focus maybe
00:26:37
it's the higher it higher education
00:26:39
university people that are here but I
00:26:41
love the fact that you try and justify
00:26:44
things with tighter. And this is a good
00:26:49
culture at this very moment it's being
00:26:52
recorded is a going live at this very
00:26:56
moment there is a a middle moot in the
00:26:57
US in Montana which is not like that
00:27:01
but I you can just look at the tweeter
00:27:06
and you'll see the difference. Um this
00:27:11
is more my style. So yeah I I really
00:27:14
like this I guess yeah it's perfect
00:27:19
there's nothing else I would want more
00:27:21
you know I love the fact that everyone
00:27:23
is trying to push push move forward in
00:27:26
some way. Um I guess my job is to
00:27:30
trying to like this and getting to cool
00:27:33
so everybody can can benefit sidecar to
00:27:37
work without a signal OHQ to try and
00:27:40
get this stuff you know out there yeah
00:27:46
no and I with double key if you use
00:27:55
your ideas mixtures chairs projects I
00:27:59
know you're doing the mobile version of
00:28:04
creating. This idea flatmates some
00:28:10
notes. Um which I remember the I I I
00:28:18
think some of the offline uses and and
00:28:23
it allows got here this sort of offline
00:28:26
mood those little mini movie does this
00:28:28
is a very exciting area the the talk
00:28:34
from the the gentleman from the Congo
00:28:38
yeah because the right yeah yeah
00:28:41
thinking about the african context I
00:28:43
think this sort of offline how we
00:28:45
operate in a place where there's no
00:28:47
internet is very interesting and got me
00:28:50
thinking about how to how to improve
00:28:53
middle for this situation. Um because
00:28:57
we'll take internet for granted you
00:28:59
know in in this sort of society here
00:29:01
and the most the world does not have
00:29:03
that the every time I see a middle page
00:29:10
that's full of little text I just I'm
00:29:14
always thinking how can we stop that
00:29:17
because when you have a wall of text it
00:29:23
it's not a good user interface like you
00:29:25
look at these apps. They're not much

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Conference program

Ergonomie : Je THÊME Martin!
Courtin Brice, Université de Tours
6 July 2016 · 3:33 p.m.
Utilisation de Moodle dans le cadre d'une formation hybride Culture et Compétences numériques
Catherine Loire, Université de Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne
6 July 2016 · 4:30 p.m.
La communauté Moodle francophone
Nicolas , Martignoni
7 July 2016 · 9:05 a.m.
10 Years Mahara : Looking back to look forward
Kristina Hoeppner, Cheffe de projet MAHARA et conseillère communautaire chez Catalyst IT
7 July 2016 · 9:36 a.m.
Communauté Mahara francophone
Dominique-Alain Jan, Coordinateur de la communauté MAHARA francophone
7 July 2016 · 10:10 a.m.
Moodle : un outil au service de la modernisation des systèmes éducatifs en Afrique francophone
Bernard Dumont, Pascal Tschimanga, Honoré Nzambu
7 July 2016 · 2:06 p.m.
SPOC : former à Moodle avec Moodle
Frederike Hanke, Patrick Lemaire, Université de Rouen
7 July 2016 · 4:07 p.m.
Le MOOC Moodle Mobile
Jean Marc Doucet
7 July 2016 · 4:50 p.m.
Faire cours en BBBermuda
Laura Bertetto, Université Sorbonne Nouvelle - Paris 3, Julien Cros - Université Aix Marseille
7 July 2016 · 5:16 p.m.
Conclusion de la journée du 07.07.2016
Patrick Lemaire
7 July 2016 · 5:53 p.m.
Moodle et l'approche nordique
Valentin Berclaz
8 July 2016 · 9 a.m.
Moodle, outil indispensable à la classe inversée
Sonia Perotte, HES-SO GE
8 July 2016 · 10:58 a.m.
Moodle colonne vertébrale d'un cours multi-blended
Laurent Barbin, ESSCA
8 July 2016 · 11:35 a.m.
Moodle en Raspberry PI
Nicolas Martignoni, Fri-Tic Fribourg
8 July 2016 · 12:08 p.m.
La Zapette Moodle V3
Thierry Koscielniak, Université de Paris
8 July 2016 · 2:35 p.m.
Discussion avec Martin Dougiamas
Martin Dougiamas, Fondateur et développeur en chef de MOODLE
8 July 2016 · 3:46 p.m.

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