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well one of the few economist it's you know and where is the crisis that i looked a
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philosopher but uh then few because there are state and use it uh i would like to
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to bring good
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the bleep to this discussion now
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uh i will deal uh we some mythological questions
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fortunately recession or on the social sciences a special territorial social economic restructuring
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i will deal uh with the necessity to combine a quantitative or
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qualitative analysis of the process of economic the detector change
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in this perspective or fitness ash approach or will
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be discussed the whispering opportunity for regional interpretation
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of the italian sausage change but even for character prank
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uh it in the first part of my presentation i
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will pay particular attention to the specific computers too
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an uh to send in a way that uh and must this or roller including but not
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the sickly launching the research comparing a on these a fee it's perhaps or defaced great
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a campaign of feel a surge as being organised in italy for
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the analysis or productivity synchronisation at the beginning of seventies
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and this was typically and traditionally approach and uh
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this was a a quite important in my
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opinion uh for uh next uh uh an obviously researches you up and that's where
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uh i'm pro that'd be centred jason had started a was a was a team uh quite important to me
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today at the beginner seventeens where where five different research
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groups uh i would like just to remember
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uh that work on these uh uh on these the in uh
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nothing apache just also logical uh uh saddam uses the
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worked on a product and the synchronisation and on where the market even
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i just say shut out that that be probably should be in a seventy four
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see that's an abuse going economies to wear them more than i
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really i got the spatially and mechanical fencing delegate more
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then have the c. t. news group uh we're to them by the and
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then uh on a wide number of aliasing been it too firmly uh
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yeah no but but uh we must remember that uh uh if you were to
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and these with fever a sash uh doing this delay sixties and second part of
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speech this one was like a vector the is an easy to to what
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it's always says uh for vision a question that before they regional organisation
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a big a teeny where them these uh open apple
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one night too skinny into studies ration uh
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but to proceed to the the first two papers
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on feel recession sixty one and sixty two
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uh waiting on a furniture sector of the market huge and
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in in uh the ideal peace and to scan
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a unit booklet partition ninety nine yeah the devastation this set or less as she
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on on paul stanley on which you worked for seventy five years uh
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well well even uh one of these uh of these days
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so he's is important to remember that in the subtitle of these
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broken ninety nine uh because the need was a feed research
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or the importance of feed the recession to understand what is moving in the area
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and if it to one was i'm not buying a score not the ministry's group will
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work on several areas uh to explain the rules more friends
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in the organisational this save the tally of the it's the
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new form of organisation of industrial decision and that
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abel settlement in italy uh in a position most
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to the first one and two to the
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and they're developed the jews or no it's a um
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these uh there's not to do say research uh or productive or this into decision
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well quite interesting especially because they find a lot and all that is intended on organisation production
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maybe a show even uh ambiguous results of the disintegration process
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because uh well not only a new form of relationship between a
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small firms allows them swedish sort o. new dependency organisation
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that to even uh with the the the pussy ability to have a a
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it it discovery for a new perspective was more fame system
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maybe there is still no these process of analysis would free recession moved uh
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to want to cut out the to understand the the opponent me
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the law of a of a dependency in a lot of aliases more friends uh
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an investor ditched a and is open to all the space or the analysis
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for small firms wasn't easy term lease in question because everybody
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at that time but even today again and to look at the it is
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possible but you can only develop understanding that only we lost it
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so to try to demonstrate the survivor grab
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beatty of the system organise was
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more friends or windows was developed as as being right by d. fig
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in this guide over the of recession we're where different made those fanatics
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or was fever session we need to view to friends and now that
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i've just told me about it and he then here where kids
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even uh or the right institutions barbecues detention and uh it didn't it yeah it
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you form a very for very often you for my c. t. shirts but even now
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and i'm still data quantitative analysis especially the census
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data but even analysis of fair balance sheet
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uh the most rating the lack of existence of a direct relationship between uh
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economic efficiency in the them perfect ability and size of friends
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so these was explain clearly in the past that
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for example not in a u. k. so late courted beating on
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ninety uh you're gonna use a recession but interesting research
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no actually the lower the order like trade unions
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and which are gonna is uh uh not only uh uh it s. sector different
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methods it for the first time you use that even that balance sheet
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offers a demonstrating that the law that this about
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a termination ship about creating you then uh
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uh it's it's also organisation and a soft of alliances
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between different uh social groups of that usually adding coughed
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so quite an interesting place in which people well
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you can go on the future and creating even
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possibility to create different that social allies
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uh this kind of the case the the week i still still uh
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i believe that we do we've all heard of local actors
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both public and private which often the terminus even the capability to propose
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collective options so the importance fourteen of all of the people
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it's quite important to create if you want a sort of a
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a general overview or a share interpretation the reality and
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then do you put the two creation ideals
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and to create action collective options contract to move
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to was that uh that potential jeanette
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uh that means uh in this case that is the
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involvement or partner institution but sometime make order
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make orders of this kind are safe to the it's almost impossible
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to him but everywhere and they were specially you'll surely
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you need is impossible to ever order or essential is that
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uh but uh it's possible to organise in any case where in working a lot
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on the log also cited to whoever these it's supposed to be just awesome responsibility
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or recess just two or a state called the two or social abilities
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the attorneys they adding test this out there interested are users of the recession assets of
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this is important for the question over running the if you want or the outage
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i would like to to remember some or their mythological questions
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the the output to to to singling out crucial problems and prospective
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for local economies are cited and is possible to have us an interesting case studies in
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which of these regular a contradiction between various out of the recession defeat research
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we did this out the old one getting the the analysis we
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do facial information uh of the national institute of statistics
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for example in italy for the end of segmented beginning of eighties
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the national accounts whereas blaming the the maintaining good
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of the car or economic analysis and the rate actually pregnant
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when they ass over the people that are working there
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or not fever sasha where uh as well i mean there was uh
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it diffuse into studies or some processor wasn't
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an increase of uh of industrial employment
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and the the national institute the allies the new reality up to this is to
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sort of eighty one nobody's was l. overly innovating five because the primer
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the cup ability to work with the data was mostly stronger like like today
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so that whatever obliged to change ah you're after that because of this it says
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to change completely national accounts that the means they were obliged to the compromise
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with some day that people working on more friends system where right but we
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a everything against in that in that the the is interesting because that
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too i that compared to the pussy should we do it
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with the conformity with the with the with the with the
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normal interpretation of the realities light just like this
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so this is this just playing video pussy shown sometime on the quality and quantity approach
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n. b. a. it'll push each of the conformity approach versus an innovative approach
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you lose a great mythological divide that we didn't want you don't normally see
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analysis very awful that is a sort of been preceded determinism and
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when they asked the most open a percent sign the
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star martin more rattling to be the possibility stick
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uh approach uh an interpretation uh i will try to to where
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can be seen that in the next few you mean it's
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i'm a bit difficult wanted that you approach especially
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among the economist is especially useful so permanently season forecast
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the contents button will usually for the cost uh completely mistaken
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but but they don't explain why they made a mistake
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yeah the attention is focused on if it's the uh organisation
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in phoenix the lodging logical relationship i move it it's
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somebody said grow up session and that is that you obtain show not to sound uh_huh
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uh economy very about that to legally i'm not big crucial and important variable
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in the real early on in the in the reality in the reality of of it
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making diffusion uh in the reality of the of the society will become
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um for these are the approach of for example of development economists that but
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even should be deleted economists that depends on different on different data board
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and they have a different uh yeah loop you different
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behaviour of actors into retail is so the gravity
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the program it over modes of organisational product so the brutality on more that's over get it says
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a room in champaign yields the planner where ah ah
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the the time of the common these principles
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they were setting guess some simple in deterministic inhalation shit and where it was
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you could for example to the relationship between economic growing population increase economic good or seek
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enlightenment studies action organisation is in sixty you didn't sign it is was like on
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button showing diversity even sycamore gets integrated organisation
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but even consenting to be theresa forgetting
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they are a lot of these blight disease quite crucial in my opinion
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again it appeal crises and transformation make enemies cannot work
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so these explained a little bits and a d. o. g.
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uh the user in these uh in this medium the last uh stationed in the spiel
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long prices down yeah so crises in which of conformity is that is dominant
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uh it is important to the main but that the development
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or wanted to divert made notes in social sciences
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at the beginning of seventies was yeah i mean novelty while
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of entity that of a novelty or scientists that
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against the the traditional interpretation of the p. so they where i
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mean aren't they in where right against the the conformity
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but today's completed the contrary to they any boating is based on patted down nice nothing
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yeah but uh usually especially in fact whatever economics they are mentally rocked on these
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um hum you conclusion i would like to say that what you want
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pity should be not in a position i'd like it to remember
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they got a little of the importance of the international do not called
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the quality and quantity that make the body took a peek
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uh in which uh a user social scientists are well into
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explain the shifting a bit double or the double up
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um we have uh some clear and the um explanation
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these uh uh when to to to um
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to understand to where the cost action no coherent bit actions uh in policies
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so be these in the these cup apart we need to make sure to get there
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quality and quantity approach uh uh ever ever some great opportunity
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uh and uh i would i bought to remember the the the the the work uh public uh t. v.
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uh that uh radio uh a already i spoke about these these future research is to
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title but even know what did the usual manner in a elderly eighty free
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you should manner uh wrote a free books on uh uh develop economics uh
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at the end of six fifty cent begin your cease this uh
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uh and he went back on this set on the ad would do
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this or do could develop approach that's absurd to partition sixty seven
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it makes it really easy spent a a fourteen weeks uh
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going get around the in a forty five different uh
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there are several to development adventures in six different the latin american counties
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and ending with wet packet writing does a duplicate not very diffuse very few people know
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this book uh getting guided the only the battery should in uh you see for
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um i will be back again on a on a leash man
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uh uh in the last in the last uh a slight
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so into i say in transition periods like the classes previous are the best condition to start to
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weed in about two minutes to what s. k. from the t. v. to call conformist cage
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uh looking for minorities and change the reinforcing
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the according catch up in mind since
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it's it even is it to what these kind of of uh uh approach
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uh oh this plain white today the great the guy crises so that this part of the common
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is the top block them quantity on what he sees and body off and on worn out
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report this is an very in focusing on very narrow minded westerns and
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mark on this baby not that not every penny about the last
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the problem of big license for example with a of employment
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of big lie probabilities like we are not all that
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a the ninety family perhaps in nineteen ninety percent of because it's i've
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only care about laugh economic or social problem with these last yes
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uh and then uh i it was uh i wonder why why young the column is still
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not able anymore to understand the key changes into returns they are waiting for new data
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uh for for getting get it they talk previews
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did they produce data banks are not sure no i'll conformist ipod tasks
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so they produce data by the national council by national uh uh
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he does that these these are base on very often
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at least i attend a party so that it cannot this
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is you seem possible traditional they're not that these
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corral the use of these these these is that emit a logical
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question quite quite crucial so the problem is to to to
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to propel yeah to create new art that i think data
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even in precise either no not not very ready
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because because few recession cannot create but they can't create
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some that does some information to start to to
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try to to put it in a different way period does that is the the the challenge
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and then uh and one that i wonder why why yeah where yeah i've got a
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bumper on us our anger to discuss they're not it is because blasted moving
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on the style is that still a white tank are still looking at what is happening get out
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um the master class oregon i see venice uh last thingy up
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as blue some interesting uh uh a paper so that should be presenting the next
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number of a bit to null territorial parties by protecting can be done
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um like i mean i remember when uh when uh uh
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is more uh uh what actionable not the city would bunnies and city planning must be an ally
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since that in on the ground war tunnel looking around back to the even job interface
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stop to to work and to look around the courtyard using quantitative date
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to try to explain uh up to make only right plus by what is happening
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for dropping got the place cannot understand that without looking get around and this
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thing didn't get different audio lot changes does so this is bullshit
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he then he thank you for uh for our views in a
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it's a econometric methods like the best part of the context
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oh so some some cayenne and so not only disinterest as some products
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for example the the process of international the localisation of friends
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they did the localisation link that to the global essential process on not fall
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on this to that role field research because very often
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the results on those morris i have to say that are
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all group here fine but finding get some ah oh
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practical wrath references and explain a show on now has some
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ah i button since over the cost a lot
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this wasn't the the way over lunch in the uh field recession
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in seventies are products of those is it or is it
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but the then look for some reaction to the crisis is more friends are more question
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uh the work as buyout phenomenon that's a mixed in case
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over the are some they were cut to the lack
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of employment bar substituting got bent trap and that's quite interesting from a social point of view
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this is what this is a quality crucial argument but even know
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what the problem over the option to the classes i remember
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really option the economic crises saying spain after the crisis of frankie smell
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uh was uh at the bottom are well they're retarded our organisation would
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be a little on monday or whatnot balfour ah we've not shell
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of the source organisation to create employment to create a big action to take effect
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uh you know not the crap deviating do really use
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a wasted to return the solo still would
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bodies our web don't these arguments are quite crucial to understand how it's possible to change
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the reality after after the guy so these are a crucial arguments on each uh we can we can whip
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um even delete also read the receipt yeah so metropolitan areas that in my opinion
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very often are based on what now to and mistaken results
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uh he's an argument to quite quite interesting but i think the then it
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because we don't have the option to help quite openly so
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cool a metal rock artist off this morning that
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the first two papers where dealing with this kind of problem
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uh some time concrete guide okay so to have a ah also uh
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the bottom out also out of the seat is on the
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people organise themselves but in a different way without waiting
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the action of the state so all these kind of our what part quite a a cushion in my
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opinion can remember on these to remember the the rule of these uh so i i i
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i'm going to i'm going to conclude the redevelopment of local doctors
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because they often are uh bolts uh the object of the analysis uh but even
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ah diva ah tours of the analysis just last and helping the damaging that all the final interpretation
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a deer or are they responsible actors take all this uh which are acting as
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we feely of the recession has on that means a recession of that
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some point tell us this on what they are going go so
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that i can discuss uh uh throw the disgusted by
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they need to to listen to pinion older people so they are
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are you forcing the copy of interpretation does it according to
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arrive to to whoever is a show that interpretation
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so sometimes yeah brad analysis economists and social virtues that can
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uh can where can it in a similar way
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ooh where an uh oh you've gotta look at the methodology for a ruckus that is uh
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uh so we that is very often we did a search action approach so we can see a lot of similarities
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between the where clause samara urban planners uh and the economist of
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sociologist because there were to be the interview collection of data
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on decision making that economic behaviour they are looking for a tentative actors news
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yeah singling out a a different but interestingly t. local or society
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they are they are they have to care for the
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construction of scenarios for the interpretation diffusion restitution
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or the results in the august they caught that they organised conferences and public discussion with
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a selection no new ideas in proportion for collective out so we can see
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feel around us few economists view social exhausted working in this way
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it is important i will make some some example you if you if you need
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uh well when when this happened the user that is that
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the normalisation of private and public uh local actors
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a very often troll costly since i mean as a we the into the shared approach it with the
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the score last uh and uh speakers we don't need to different to to be friendly c.
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very often these participative research approach gives a
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a high rise the collective uh when s. own territorial resources down
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look at italy or is is in a different way
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the very act the way and they can have for my
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part approximate and very often these can even now
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a five arise uh the interaction or of an
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experimental policies at the regional national like that
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a room they've all mental local doctors as say the easy to show that
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why i play a crucial for that it's a shock some organisation
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they wear and a single putting these affordable desertion or territorial recent six
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these are the pain that they can it that this cabot da most social
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sciences it's the increasing quality or life that it's also will bay
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in these uh position uh we can find a lot of a corporation no balls so been of the city and a lot
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of wine economist about the secret weapon some yes a lot of
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wind the latest sixty cents a secure was uh uh
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it didn't use an extensive uh um oh i apply usually an
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extensive use of these nonstationary us as project too much
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uh you were like two members some metaphors a citizen to return reassessing venturi of the possible
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concrete to prop yes the future is constructed day by day
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and the and this quotation big argument to be aimed by
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to read decor paper at least in my study
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area consent the capability to prove you prove its its fear of d. v. d. and not its troops
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uh got an going to finish with some uh huh would put you to create
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that that we don't have developments in to remember some a little projects
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uh dating a a point to do that patiently daddy big case a parameter
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uh um but because of pride in because the prior to the
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but that is who caterpillar and the butterfly could punch in two thousand one
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uh use the boat to speak about in the good see action
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between you find i produce an set price on big piece of
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rights on the price of the different that piece stuff
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in the in the production to avoid the the the the pussy show dominance
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of uh of final fantasy fans and this rendering get do roller or
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this that in the process of that plan uh impact though
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in the middle of nineties uh uh in which a city where to
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uh in this booklet is that with that is that these these
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potential handler that all of these listening to this c. t.
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uh by by the group or whatever to seek to integrate the crap
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uh but again car these another case in which also the
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the peace re between artists and there's more friends
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the final per user has been uh use that by the case of the shaver nineteen eighties and we do
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a lot the movie decision or institution especially locust lay
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the only group of you earn nineties uh
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one is uh with the the signal to of a of a
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of a of a pact is also part of a
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common development in probably meant to end even know mm veterans
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frontal yeah things to put it in a two thousand
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uh the difficulties in a lot of european then there's four thirty
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total development grants even use must visualisation wise reprogram and
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is basically in the existence over to match a raucous
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and lack of innovation club teach that's contradictory because they would like
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to introduce innovation but they are using that that process
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in a tender because they are defining objective in two months
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in a pretty seeks the uh i'd bought places in it top down at uh the logic
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so you buddies is compared to a little directed at blue light
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to to to do this is important because very often uh
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the the the interesting case at the local level leasing gangs that oh he's uh not sense
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of a specific economic policy and social policies finance it by
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initial not a groupie and or european uh uh let
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okay he planning at least i immediately weird for some period
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that that to do important expediency in korean very sick
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and the second part on ninety begin your to douse and uh they
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Conference Program

MOT DE BIENVENUE
Vincent KAUFMANN, Professeur de sociologie urbaine et d'analyse de la mobilité EPFL Lausanne
Sept. 20, 2017 · 8:55 a.m.
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INTRODUCTION
Paola VIGANÒ, Directrice du Laboratoire d’Urbanisme, École polytechnique fédérale de Lausanne
Sept. 20, 2017 · 8:59 a.m.
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INTRODUCTION
Elena COGATO LANZA, Présidente du Conseil de la Fondation Braillard Architectes
Sept. 20, 2017 · 9:02 a.m.
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INTRODUCTION
Panos Mantziaras, Directeur de la Fondation Braillard Architectes
Sept. 20, 2017 · 9:09 a.m.
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URBANISME ET ENJEUX DE LONG TERME
Dominique Bourg, Philosophe, professeur - Institut de géographie et durabilité, Faculté des géosciences et de l'environnement, Unil
Sept. 20, 2017 · 9:20 a.m.
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BETWEEN “ARCOLOGY,” THE “LOCAL PROJECT” AND THE «HORIZONTAL METROPOLIS»: CONFRONTING THE DILEMMAS OF SUSTAINABLE URBAN HORIZONTALITY
Christian ARNSPERGER, Economiste, directeur de l’Institut de Géographie et Durabilité, faculté des Géosciences et de l’Environnement, Université de Lausanne
Sept. 20, 2017 · 9:59 a.m.
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RE-ENCHANTING ARCHITECTURE LA NATURE COMPLEXE DU PROCESSUS DE CRÉATION EN ARCHITECTURE
Aliki-Myrto PERYSINAKI, Docteur en Architecture et Ville, Senior Lecturer en Architecture, Université Liverpool John Moores, membre du laboratoire Architecture, Milieu, Paysage (MCC)
Sept. 20, 2017 · 10:22 a.m.
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THE PRINCIPLE OF HOPE AS A PHILOSOPHICAL ‘CHALLENGE’ TO CONTEMPORARY URBAN THEORY
Brent PATTERSON, PhD student, Ecole des Hautes Etudes en Sciences Sociales (EHESS). Teacher at ENSA Paris-Malaquais and ENSA Paris-La Villette
Sept. 20, 2017 · 11:12 a.m.
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TERRITORIAL SOCIO-ECONOMIC RESTRUCTURING: LOCAL ACTORS’ INVOLVEMENT FOR A SHARED VISION AND PLANNING. A BIAS FOR HOPE
Gioacchino GAROFOLI, Economist, Full Professor in Economic Policy at Insubria University, Italy
Sept. 20, 2017 · 11:38 a.m.
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DU SOL COMME OEUVRE, AU SOL COMME ARCHIVE DE L’ACTION HUMAINE. MICROHISTOIRE D’UN PRINCIPE D’ESPÉRANCE À TRAVERS DEUX TEXTES DU PÉDOLOGUE DAN H. YAALON
Antoine VIALLE, Architecte, doctorant, assistant au Laboratoire d’Urbanisme, EPFL
Sept. 20, 2017 · 12:11 p.m.
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DISCUSSION avec SÉBASTIEN MAROT
Sept. 20, 2017 · 12:34 p.m.
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LA PROSPECTIVE URBAINE À PAU (PYRÉNÉES ATLANTIQUES). LE GRAND ÉCART ENTRE PROJETS ÉDILITAIRES ET HORIZONS D’ATTENTE.
Jean ATTALI, Philosophe, professeur honoraire en urbanisme et projet urbain à l’ENSA Paris-Malaquais, chercheur associé de l’UMR AUSser / CNRS n° 3329.
Sept. 20, 2017 · 2:26 p.m.
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DES RÉSERVES FONCIÈRES AUX ZONES VERTES : PROJETS ET CONTRE-PROJETS D’URBANISATION CONTRIBUANT À LA FORMATION DES SITES SEMI-NATURELS BRUXELLOIS
Séréna VANBUTSELE, Architecte-urbaniste, docteur en Art de bâtir et urbanisme, Université Catholique de Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgique
Sept. 20, 2017 · 2:54 p.m.
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DÉSAPPRENDRE D’ATHÈNES / URBAN KAÏROS
Marc ARMENGAUD, Philosophe, urbaniste, membre fondateur et directeur de AWP, maître assistant titulaire au sein du département Ville Architecture Territoire à l’Ecole d’Architecture ENSA Paris-Malaquais
Sept. 20, 2017 · 3:14 p.m.
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DÉCRIRE POUR AGIR. DE LA NÉCESSITÉ DE PROBLÉMATISER LE TERRITOIRE DE LA VILLE CONGOLAISE
Géry LELOUTRE, Architecte-urbaniste, chargé de cours, doctorant, centre de recherche LoUIsE, Faculté d’Architecture de l’Université Libre de Bruxelles / Università IUAV
Sept. 20, 2017 · 4:04 p.m.
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DISCUSSION avec PANOS MANTZIARAS
Panel
Sept. 20, 2017 · 4:32 p.m.
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PROPOS LIMINAIRE : DE L’ART DE LA MÉMOIRE À L’ART D’ESPÉRER
Sébastien MAROT, Philosophe, professeur invité à l’Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne
Sept. 20, 2017 · 5:01 p.m.
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CONCLUSIONS DE LA JOURNÉE avec PANOS MANTZIARAS et PAOLA VIGANÒ
Panos Mantziaras, Directeur de la Fondation Braillard Architectes
Sept. 20, 2017 · 6:04 p.m.
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