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might not get to see it so hi everybody i am good whacks the founder back
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to your um we represent that fifty companies actually expected or ah become ah
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pretty extraordinary in regards which would be representative now uses you shouldn't records with uh to
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the institutions it really true that um the progression of the crypt registry is country
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um to do with the easy to to we want three spare
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yeah and so on to the topic is the token economy
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the truth is the token economy is comprised of well what the different sectors so
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and when everyone's your introduce themselves integrate how dynamic conversation about where we are today
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or how we don't hear what's next so i'll start with you alexander
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the question is who are you and how did you get here um you right um
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i got here because i got really interested in the technology in its applications to um
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how people work together i just found it really promising i got really interested
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third reading white papers and went down the rabbit hole faster than we can say token okay rancid
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what about yourself that you or i or or or years ago how
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secure hours or talking or securities and not that but also um
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way too early yeah and and we kind of stuff for that okay how can we
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turn that but we're we're long been cream ice ice you would be more and
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and i suddenly we were on the business has got a good work weekends to
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so we we are basically for what physics the or advisers for i.
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c. e. o.'s probably about ten percent of the market you're done
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hundred and seventy million work for fundraising is your demons euros
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those programs are very big usually between seven hundred and you remember one billion
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we are fifteen who works excellent to work my name's downloads and on one of the co founders of wings uh but
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before when zach going about it is the sense about it sounds well without one of the first that forms or
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we can call them i see all the time because the sound much like i you know like a a scoutmaster quite it's still around sounding
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and ah you know i it's come a long way since then i remember we get ah makes a which was
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when i first got skills and at that time i was i think i was over great i reach
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housing coins for uh for border within a year to year we are now at at
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at this age and so with wings what um we tried to do is basically
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use that power are crowded artificial intelligence so what
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with the valuation oh i'm a design studios
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of the other evaluation and then later is because nineteen
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oh we're going to also implement like rotational system
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to um also assign reputations to people
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for um for their forecasting ability but also for their promotional kind of lets it go billing
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ability to bring in the funds for our projects that that that they actually want
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john how do your your a good question um so i'm
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occurs cofounder storage with the does centralise customers platforms
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so it's kind of like your baby pure distract anyone can plug in and become part of the clout
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um my background is traditional finance i was adamant some bigger credit suisse and which would make an elk
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run determined are not correctly fine i was became fascinated mental condition of finance um how uh
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build storage uh from two thousand fifteen we recently completed at
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thirty nine dollar i see a word token sale
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uh 'cause we basically had an existing took and we're actually buys by um but uh yeah but these guys are right there
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uh the super super helpful to undercut them excellent um so there's panels here is people talking about
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i'd say much to the space from history two thousand twelve isn't eternity to use williams expression
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um up until it happening right here and now i think you've got the finger on the pulse of
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oh the industry so the first question is one they're actually that really needs to be asked
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pretty nice you know is the t. g. d. v. d. t. v. or something else
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john what do you think um i see those kind of that word when you speak to lawyers um made very much
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but but who favour the water can say oh i'm still in our disclosure
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we basically use the the token sail and i'm quite sure um
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i think that i see those uh i generally it because and sounds very somewhere tonight here
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um it will maybe attract the ire of the uh uh that's the regulators
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i don't remember if i think of when we think away c. e. o.'s is more like
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ah i you eighties initially user acquisition runs um i
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think that's the only see in way of
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looking at it ah everything else kind of is too detached from what you're trying to build
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yeah so that really brings out a a very interesting point how do you explain what
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an icy always or token still is to someone who doesn't know anything about krypton
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i mean many people likely to as you say i kind of acquiring users for your initial
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protocol platform resource whatever maybe how you explain it
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rancid well they don't have to be users right they can be to speculators
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with them or to say with you know what is what right
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um on on appraiser for exceeded the they had everybody had to use the mobile out there so they really then
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got a lot of new downloads for the for the ah okay we're see article work throw 'em problem
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i wouldn't you're on how they decided to would say you were talking to someone not in this room
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how would you explain what it actually was i normally start from reno proper funding angle
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tucker abilities them it is brought funny but it's not a good approach fronting or you don't
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send the product cannot rent or you are like a skateboard you don't get that you get tokens
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and then those talking probably the important thing is the beer function mobile on the platform
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at some point and that way they can be exceptions to them to good use for
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so as of right now there are a lot of two weeks
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point earlier there are users of these platforms to dominic um
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what what we're talking about these tokens else who's behind it is it just speculators
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i don't think it's just like really there's a there's that the people
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that are longer term investors and then there are people that um
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oh well in in our case for example planes uh they there are people that actually were generally
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interested in using the network and i think you see that as well stored is well i
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i was in the original stored a route say or whatever and uh one of the reasons why wasn't this
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is kind of crazy but i thought you know one day and maybe i wanna upload my brain
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the internet and it might get in on this now it's gonna be pretty cheap from you know so uh
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anyway set there's there is that the people that are interested and our actual users i think you
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uh well william and that kind of uh uh that there was like four different categories yeah there i think it really comes down to
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really that's two categories one is something that's more the security type thing and in that case
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there are still some value there because there are places in the world where they don't have really good regulation
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and so uh or the court system is not that great and so yeah in the west wing out
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or existence but someone in let's say south america or africa may not
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have those opportunities and this is a way for them to participate
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in uh the ins sort of an asset class that they don't necessarily that
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easy access and then on the other side for people that are in more you know these places where
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are we not regulation and uh jurisprudence in on that rule
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about uh and now is the opportunity to participate
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here in the building oh up to the mute smacks of global organisations
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that are lettering people from around the world into a you know reading
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order disk space or in our case just giving us um
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you know uh their opinion of the valuation of something or uh
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i don't know that there's there's one other things out there but it's a way to participate in that's gonna virtual organisation
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so are these participants individuals because it seems to be and to a lot of people in this
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room at the where else are capturing a lot of these talks else are getting in early
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so as a foreign does perhaps the first token font what do you
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say oh who are the whales to dominate in the space
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um it it kinda looks that way but you have to think in in in several dimensions of the same time right
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oh and one of those dimensions is that um you know ideally
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a large a seal participants ah so so you can't really
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separate between user acquisition and and speculative uh participation right
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because there's no better promoter of the project than a good speculate if right
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think about it so so on one hand that's kind of one of
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the ways in which the loop gets enclosed with cripple finance
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is that your speculators really wanted the token to appreciate
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so they're very much incentive wise to make sure
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that you project succeeds and gets promoted on the other hand we do see this dynamic way or
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oh i there is an early sort of an exclusive a kind of um
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a group of oh you know funds and large participants that
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really capture it tremendous a lot of value exclusively and
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um i think ultimately that if that continues it will probably quite displays more that will uh help
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so how are we gonna go and get millions of people to join us in this room i'll get a
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grip to space is still very very challenging out any what is that to create a a wallet
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even the most simple like jack's ah it's it's still complicated there's there's there's a lot of challenges to how
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are we gonna go it's all these problems and get lots of users want your platform for to start
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and it's so we have about twenty five thousand a farmer's people that
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are sure either display some that we have an area about
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eight added lights so we agree that over a thousand x. last year with near zero cap ex near zero up text
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and we like this year to increase that by you know ten to twenty x. um
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didn't get any acts of a range in terms of data storage uh capabilities
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on the that's on the supply side of our market place people providing access to their displays
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oh but it inside we have over forty thousand developers they're using storage
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is the data layer what applications building on top of it
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um and again you know the token which we had about seventeen thousand participants are operating
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um the those holders are acting but if this is a quite frankly and under
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i appreciate all that other token cell is that we get massive network effects from the people that participate to say other than
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uh they want to use or service and recommend or service to third parties and so that's
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what we're really saying going back to alex's point is is a user acquisition tool um
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in in addition to being a a great point it's control so who are these users
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are they people who bought it choreograph early what countries away from it held but
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yeah the most of them are um white males under the age twenty five
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uh many of them still have acne entering high school um but
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um i think that you know the dispersion of them a global a uh uh
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interesting way amsterdam a burly um services can york are our biggest
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but we're located over fifty countries globally um it it's growing um that outside
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of the us in your pastor there's going inside of us in your
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well some ice use don't allow for american participation ranch i know you've had to
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work with some um do you think that that is a a challenge
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or it will be always the tones and i think it's like a part of our c. e. o.'s up locked us
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and you basic up the double what it's what you have to say the are
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you american no you know thrown out and then also got people working so
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right now there isn't even k. y. c. of course the people are doing and talking still
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that's becoming a best practised um and they're actually taking it too are you american or
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are in some way connected to america ready ultimate beneficiary um so we see that
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americans let's say are blocked out of some and now of course they just
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come to china has effectively and i see i was really sort of temporary basis
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that's speculator say what effect does that have a promotional token cells topic
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but um i think the american thing it can get figured out so uh you can see it's sort of opening up already under
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the law firms have been doing a lot of work on this over last year's to sort of set things up right
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and you know the fact is that if you want to do something that's the security of these for americans
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you can um you can just released a stipend go uh de regulate kind of
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thing that uh if you can really like in our case with wings we
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when we first started wings are lawyers look at it and said okay guys this is probably a security is so we
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had to we architect and by the architect thing it and i'm thinking about how to really centralise it like that
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uh make it uh the value flow from the user
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uh and we actually came up with much more sophisticated and i think better system by actually having to go through that exercise
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so i don't think it's necessarily a bad thing i think that smart people smart rooms
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figure out how to do that and how to access americans as part of china um yeah i think it's temporary thing and
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my understanding is the money that's already just once piece of the action so
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i mean the c. d.'s so what if you have a reap your application broken you don't have to
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what america but you know you fine but we you know we talked with the is easy and with the top will for
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you or if you do everything correctly you you find what but then if there's any nuances of this kind of
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you know even buyback single um but its dividend well it's that you're talking about finance
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substitute for paying out dividends or russia credit yeah people any any of that it's immediately
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than a security security and then on on that one one one of that
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securities offerings will be religious because there's no such a thing as a global retail securities offering
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but then you would have to go country boy country and make your perspectives okay to do that too because you know security
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so we can just carry so it's a little bit because i think that's a totally new read it that has it doesn't exist there's
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it's pieces are well known today of course just me more securely talking to the
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future um and then there's the secondary market issue which we should talk about
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what's the value of a token if there's no liquidity um but let's let's go
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more into the geography angle here so what's the next great growth or reno
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for talk it's we don't get china's been pretty dominates obviously us
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but a lot of innovation we're here it's which a lot of course the home of
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the token cells but where is it not yet um ubiquitous were maybe seven out
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yeah you know actually i'll i'm gonna withhold pointing at a specific
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point on the map um buttons that say that i think
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you know in talking about regulation by country we're actually talking about the fundamental
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oh shit and and kind of an associated conflict with that which
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is the conflict between hitting your isn't not having borders
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right and you know if one country oh restricts a inactivity
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which is kind of by definition really bored or less
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then what does that really mean and how well will this work is kind of my question
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he he um so you know we we dealing with global teams a
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lot of these projects have members from all over the world
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oh they're secondary markets in jurisdictions that be really regulate the model
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oh there's some jurisdictions or becoming a kind of holes that
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um oh oh create fever will regulation to attract the this market
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and to what extent the rate um you know a regulator that wants to restrict this activity in there
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a geography can can actually succeeded doing that he is a really big question
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um so to me you know to answer your question i think
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you know the resolution to that we're yet to see is to kind
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of who who wins the the traditional models or the global models
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i wanna know who's gonna wait let's talk about it different type of winning what
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types of koreans are the winners today which was really the winners tomorrow
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so there's been invested thesis has been proposed that protocols are the
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only things worth investing it what you think about that alexander
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um i find it strange that people would make such a strong distinction first of all i don't really
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article means i know i know their platforms and i know they're applications all those platforms
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um i think when people think about a protocol um you know as a as an engineer
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um i i don't understand the the way that they use that word at all
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um he not now if you if you if like me you know if
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i take them as saying well we we wanna investment platforms another maps
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well a platform is nothing without the apps the running on top of it right
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and also i already kind of expressed this idea that
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uh applications are probably going to be more integrated
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with the specific platform and less reliant on a common platform this is
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not quite happening yet but but i think it probably eventually will
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and you know if you think about an economics of how the application economics on the platform economics one
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you know you have you thought of that piece for your transactions and then you have the application token
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that these you will you know gives you access to the services of
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those applications the fact that they had to the front tokens
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actually is really inconvenient and and creates all kinds usability
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problems going forward soul now think of that as
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merging together and think of a your application talk and as actually being something that you mine
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on the platform that runs that application that that becomes much
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more natural and the technology will eventually get there
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um and also the same time you know applications is what users use not the platform
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user is ultimately end users are not gonna care about what platform your applications
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running on so all these distinctions i i really find completely artificial
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well your point storage is something that's gonna be used in um a lot of different was cortex tax
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many different applications are coming out and a lot of companies ah marketing part
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was sorta because all they need is part of their overall system
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how is that gonna work for end users and is that something that investors it today i understand
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i'm not sure they understand it or not but um what we're seeing are
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different applications a different protocols actually building on top of the storage protocol
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um for instance there's a d. r. and a digital rights management protocol that then anyone
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could use that but then that it would be stored on the storage network
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um there's a c. d. and application so we we see that you know that the these things all
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kinda click together like lincoln marks i think higher up the stack it's much more difficult but lower
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lower stack um you know what companies like storage i think we'll have lots of change partners in channel partners
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in order to work with has these are kind of protocols you're gonna block together with one another
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do you find that that topic to find an application pacific
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tokens but those have value to investors speculators participants today
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i think uh not so low
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uh_huh speculators are generally short term uh traders but i think
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if you're looking at it from a longer term uh
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that is
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where the the money will flow eventually when the value is there a but of course it depends
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on the user acquisition into an adoption race and that sort of thing and so obviously um
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am i my personal opinion um i would second more broader sort of approach in investing in those uh because
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it's really hard says tell like who's going to be able to execute
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who will get the the the user traction who is too early
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right um indicates that store j. they've already been working on this for three or four
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years that right so the three or four years they have they have traction
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like they have a a part or some people are willing to use the protocol
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but it's still still very early right so in my in my perspective
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well traditionally and easy industry like back before i don't know last decade it was
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the the investments were longer term buttons five ten year rises and
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really in this case that's when it might that's how i
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look at it i look at it from that perspective because um you know like okay right now the market is down
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forty percent from the high because the china thing and because of
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someone said this or that or whatever but you know at the end of
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the day um do we think we're gonna go back to like centralise
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ass i don't think cell it's like are we can go back to using mainframes no
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so uh you know this is the future that's how they actually gonna get l.
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um but who's gonna be able to execute on the vision and bring in the users and which
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which apps are going to provide value to humanity in society um that
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you know the those those are the ones that are gonna see
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the space thanks very much the space in um at the end of the year last year project
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everyone we're about seventeen point seven billion dollars decrypt across the space ah i mean in total
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ah as well you mentioned earlier we we hit on high of a hundred and seventy two billion or is your another we've
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you drop down um it's still far far higher than we were and so you'll tipping very very good um
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has this made it easy for you to go and find organisations to work with to raise money
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r. p. up unable to raise money successfully today actually displays they were let's say
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couple months ago when things were perhaps even more hype than we are now
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right so i don't know if it's it's um
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it's getting it's getting better course of the possible but you know very very crazy then
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and uh so so now where we are is that you don't know more white paper company you
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know white white paper companies now you need to we always recommend but ways below sea browned
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you know get your you'd you'd together stopped work on a prototype you know no more money raising for for the white paper
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oh yeah even in so far as like what actually require the best practised so we know what he's referring to courses
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um maybe early days of the tech route sales companies would literally have a white paper
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maybe you website in the white paper was a few pages of abstract um there's nothing technical about it now
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although sometimes exceeded anymore or or not not now our one but one is that if
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you if you have a highly backup to make like a really like you know
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computer science idea then but it's still possible to take that approach but
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otherwise if it's otherwise you should you know have amenable whatever
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product on its way up loose and team and everything and uh and uh when you asked about them the flow over deals
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at times but have something for people are now you know want to raise more than they
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did few months ago so i i think we have now we get ten to thirty
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people conducting a sport on but they asking for i. c. or so i develop same number um so
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here's another very interesting element we haven't talked about yet companies from outside
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the spaces already have a lot of users are starting to see
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this is a really interesting mechanism freedom growth capital does not to
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live or otherwise as as a means of the centralise thing
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or even changing the nature of of of what do you do how
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to enter your organisation has been handle and we work together
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on cake for instance which which i have social network ah are we going to see more of this in the future
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well absolutely um
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you know why do companies actually going to this right
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um it's not just the fat it's actually um
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an existential necessity for many people and there's no one there that um
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players and social media coming of course because um
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it's simply impossible to have that business otherwise but um
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the real reason why i think is gonna be um an incredible influx of those types of
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a business models uh into more traditional space is um actually
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because block chain um and an alternative finance offer is
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uh the kinds of user incentives that the industry has not
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had a you know has not experienced yeah so
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let me give you an example right uh take any space where there is
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a very strong incumbent player and and a huge barrier to entry
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real but example internet band right how do you compete with
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um you know large telephone carriers that have all the wiring does
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have all the contact with regulators that have all the users
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and at the same time obviously you have to compete with them because
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you know the the net neutrality for example the huge question
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and a lot of people are trying to you know we think an address right well the only way to do it
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is that all talking to come on it's right human scent device users
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to come and you offer them a token that piece for this service and then appreciates
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you offer this token uh in larger percentage the early adopters and there you have
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the additional incentive to create the hardware and put it put it out
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take another example ah mapping in oh augmented reality
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and uh you know virtual realities things
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uh what would make like for example things like you know ways um you know uses maps but
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ah but for example in that method reality space what would make a person walk around
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with three d. glasses you know day in and day out offer them tell right
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um and there's countless examples of that that that we're gonna see
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where uh you know new startups are gonna come in
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they're not new they have a business they have a product you know they they may have a
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piece of hardware that they can use to create bandwidth we may have a virtual reality product
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yeah but the only way for them to actually raise money and and and
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and roll at this stage is typically talking economics so yeah absolutely well
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really good talking economics are obviously in a in a critical and important
00:28:23
part of or creating a new protocol or platform or application oh
00:28:28
but there are a lot of bad points out there um what are the worst praxis is one of the complaints
00:28:36
well the process detail some of the worst points out there dominic i'm sure you've seen your fair share
00:28:41
what are the things you say if i'm considering a token sale or should i not be doing
00:28:51
that's the question actually so um oh
00:28:54
um
00:28:56
well
00:28:58
first of well some of the it you're just right i mean if you're trying to really raise money right um
00:29:05
you really need to engage the the people you have identified word
00:29:10
of your stakeholders right or the people uh that are uh
00:29:15
very early adopters on that sort of thing um and
00:29:20
and engage the market c. d. that and so if you um
00:29:24
it's like to go out there and raise five million fifteen
00:29:27
million whatever uh you don't have the right partners and advisers
00:29:31
that it's very very very difficult unless you or uh
00:29:35
someone that into space for a long time um but as far as like the the token economics this is like a
00:29:43
this is like a whole long discussion and that you know basically what a
00:29:47
lot of people they're just holding on that's okay in classes some ah
00:29:52
and that's not really what but i mean yeah this is kind of like the rage area or let's take
00:29:57
a break from old news so that's sort of what you it's like back and they are uh
00:30:04
that that um and i don't know what it was but it's like anything that was with its kind of
00:30:09
talking softly thought like a mortar yeah right whatever right and actually start car yeah that's not on so
00:30:16
you know and how we actually can get awkward delivered on line or two on line but you know
00:30:20
back then was thank you really and uh it really had developed that point yeah um but uh
00:30:29
the thing is that you really right let's think about it i guess you building like like on any people
00:30:36
and incentive i think just like a normal operation you have workers right and those workers are
00:30:42
it's it's it's on and work at eight am very insensitive use more
00:30:47
to get bonuses uh i you know they get from okay
00:30:51
yeah that that's all part of the management structure uh of of
00:30:55
of how to run a company and it away with um
00:31:00
now or whatever it's it's the same thing with a line we
00:31:03
once you working on its you centralise people to run
00:31:09
it's not you know uh just you know program and still getting them something that
00:31:14
you get the point and uh that's very very simple and i think the best distracting to try to keep
00:31:20
it as simple as possible uh and and develop on there and just see a lot of these um
00:31:27
one of these people like don't get that just one stand a given some
00:31:32
ah that's just it's very you know why doing it's okay in trouble
00:31:38
you might as well just she's stuff that just with the norway right i think in that actually brings us
00:31:44
to uh to the security token conversation um obviously there are a lot of tokens out there are bad
00:31:52
pretend to be utility tokens access tokens um
00:31:56
license tokens but the truth is their securities and i certainly see a lot of
00:32:02
different companies that they come to me and whatever i asked about you know
00:32:07
what was your point four why do you need to point it seems like something just an added to an existing cap
00:32:13
and they're simply doing it as a way to raise money ah that's certainly not gonna work
00:32:18
what happens when there are security tokens when there is
00:32:22
any relatively simple way for securities to view token
00:32:26
iced what what is that we have to change the existing market or does it all princess
00:32:32
of course her with the changes massively because s. c. c. and uh
00:32:36
in in u. k. f. c. k. they both you know
00:32:39
i've now open the of course crowd funding if you compare the you know
00:32:43
regular crowd funding and then they were both both regular subset that um
00:32:48
but the one thing that they don't like from a a crowd funding use that term
00:32:54
a normal people can invest but then they are no hoop for five years or
00:32:57
for rubber about forms of that sort of talking nice thing that keeps the
00:33:01
big we did because normal people going up can get on imports sick divorce you
00:33:06
know whatever and they need to they need to be some way to
00:33:10
comes out well in that sense um
00:33:15
documentation of the good this is the problem
00:33:19
and what does that mean for the current major player storage is i would
00:33:23
say um one the most important points currently in the space um
00:33:29
as i said earlier there's wanna partners we work we're gonna be using you um do you
00:33:33
see yourself as part of the stack 'em of let's say eventual securities tokens as well
00:33:37
we're very much in the utility token okay that were basic unit distinguish ourselves the showing
00:33:43
a utility to avert okay and um they basically our entire ecosystem it's really big
00:33:49
kind of a gas or the the well the next thing terry 'cause just go so if
00:33:53
you're a former you receive a storage tokens for providing access to pan weapon in distaste
00:33:59
if your developer you can pay with with our token so it's a closed loop
00:34:03
because system and i don't think we ever wanna be position with the security
00:34:07
of course well let's let's talk about storage also but valuations
00:34:11
there are a few different players and mini storage world right now um why are the whys
00:34:18
the market right now think that some are more value than others in your packet
00:34:23
market the definite looking fundamentals um there's a lot of hype enters than in our individual space
00:34:29
um yeah i mean i think that if you look at who actually has a product
00:34:33
in production that anyone can work with a storage is the only alternative inner space and
00:34:40
i think our evaluation is very attractive current moment so i think that that
00:34:44
we're not focused on a price right okay we're focused on delivering value
00:34:48
and delivering names you know basically our service and and really grow very consistent
00:34:53
that successfully that everything else flows from that in the token prize will be really a very good place
00:34:59
hi guys i think we're nearing the end of our time so final comments what
00:35:03
is the future of the token market look like thomas are with you
00:35:07
i think it's gonna be huge i mean i think that the uh we're just in a very very very very
00:35:14
these stages of what i think is gonna be like the cambrian explosion of innovation and
00:35:20
um i think value creation so everyone here in this room you know it's
00:35:25
barely under the first for standing i'm very early days and i
00:35:29
think it's gonna be really back fall very american reference there
00:35:33
dominic i i don't agree that it very the very beginning
00:35:37
i think the the other important things recognises that
00:35:40
it's that she is how people are employed in so for the next generation of
00:35:45
folks like this is an opportunity for a anyone around the world to get
00:35:50
their hardware engineer making out with your storage run infrastructure whether
00:35:55
it's in ah america venezuela russia or china or whatever
00:35:59
or if there are are working is there a connoisseur and they can get involved
00:36:04
can start giving project about laying down that sort of thing that might
00:36:09
have been back in the day something they could only in
00:36:12
so on the holy or your or landed as of now something
00:36:16
of internet connection big kind of plug in and uh it's
00:36:19
i think it's a new way of um of importing it and uh sort of how labour structure in the economy
00:36:26
right so what's the future look like yes three to five years some
00:36:29
almost or see i'm a semi investments will be talking nice
00:36:35
that's a false statement yeah i think it is because because them investors will ask for that
00:36:39
hasn't you know addition to invest them because they they wanna see them back with with some point
00:36:45
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Welcome and opening remarks
15 Sept. 2017 · 9:25 a.m.
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Tokens Generation on the Blockchain
William Mougayar, General Partner, Virtual Capital Ventures
15 Sept. 2017 · 9:29 a.m.
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Panel Discussion: Inside the Token Economy, moderated by David Wachsman
Alexander Bulkin, Ransu Salovaara, Dominic Zynis, John Quinn, Resp: Co-founder, CoinFund.io - CEO, TokenMarket - Co-founder, WINGS Foundation - Co-founder, Storj
15 Sept. 2017 · 9:54 a.m.
Swiss Finance in Transition
Olga Feldmeier, CEO, SMART VALOR
15 Sept. 2017 · 10:32 a.m.
Panel Discussion: IPO 2.0: How Blockchain is Disrupting Venture Capital and Investment Banking? Moderated by Marc Badertscher
Jamie Burke , Kenzi Wang, Eddy Travia, Richard Muirhead, Resp: Founder & CEO, Outlier Ventures - Managing Partner, Superbloom Capital - CEO, Coinsilium - General Partner, Open Ocean
15 Sept. 2017 · 11:19 a.m.
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Panel Discussion: State of ICO Market – Cutting through the Hype, moderated by Daniel Haudenschild
Richard Kastelein, Daniel Zakrisson, Alexander Ivanov, Miko Matsumura, Resp: Co-founder, Cryptoassets Design Group - Co-founder, Cofound.it - CEO and founder, Waves Platform - Partner, Pantera Capital
15 Sept. 2017 · 11:54 a.m.
Fireside Chat: Investor Journey: from Bitcoin to VC. Moderated by Eric van der Kleij
Richard Moorhead, Olga Feldmeier, Charles Hoskinson, Resp: General Partner, Open Ocean - CEO, Smart Valor
15 Sept. 2017 · 1:42 p.m.
Pitch DomRaider
15 Sept. 2017 · 2:19 p.m.
Pitch Science
15 Sept. 2017 · 2:30 p.m.
Pitch Swapy / Credit Dreams
Edmilson Rodrigues, CEO
15 Sept. 2017 · 2:38 p.m.
Pitch Modex
15 Sept. 2017 · 2:45 p.m.
Pitch Etherisc
Stephan Karpischek
15 Sept. 2017 · 2:54 p.m.
Pitch RecordGram
15 Sept. 2017 · 3:02 p.m.
Pitch AION / NUCO
15 Sept. 2017 · 3:11 p.m.
Pitch BitBoost
15 Sept. 2017 · 4:14 p.m.
Pitch Sweetbridge
15 Sept. 2017 · 4:20 p.m.
Pitch Streamr
Henri Pihkala, CEO
15 Sept. 2017 · 4:29 p.m.
Pitch RightMesh
15 Sept. 2017 · 4:36 p.m.
Pitch Sun Exchange
15 Sept. 2017 · 4:44 p.m.
Pitch Papyrus
15 Sept. 2017 · 4:50 p.m.
PanelDiscussion ICO Best Practice, moderated by John Hacker
Nicolai Oster, Michael Terpin, Arie Y. Levy Cohen, Andreas Glarner, Resp: Head of ICO, Bitcoin Suisse - CEO, Transform Group - President, Blockhaus - Partner, MME Legal
15 Sept. 2017 · 5:03 p.m.
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Investor Jury Announcement and Closing Remarks
Olga Feldmeier, CEO, SMART VALOR
15 Sept. 2017 · 5:50 p.m.

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