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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 4 - The Disruptive Art Of Leadership
Miha Pogacnik, Managing Director, ECOCULTURE S.E.C.S.
Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2017 · 10:37 a.m. · 43m 18s
The Disruptive Art Of Leadership Miha Pogacnik will take participants’ attention to a journey of musical strategy for implementation of new ideas in disruptive modern economy. In deep dive into musical process of masterpiece they will discover unexpected solutions to their own problems. In the first part Miha will perform, paint and comment the musical process. Emotional and rational connection between music and leadership development will create a “resonance platform” on which we will interact in the second part of the session. Learnings and insights will become sustainable because this method generates feelings while opening participants’ mind, heart and will. No musical knowledge is expected to participate, only passion for solving challenges! Miha Pogacnik, Managing Director, ECOCULTURE S.E.C.S. Ann Hansen, Owner, The Meeting Design Game
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now let's look at the orchestra in organisation business organisation what is in common in orchestra you have
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musicians who always have to correct this and improve because you wanna just put your getting battery getting worse
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this same abuses in leadership you cannot just be you know some people have
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just drop and you give you ten percent of what they are
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they are just you know going down but otherwise you have to grow as human beings all the time right so on the next
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level it team you know 'cause we have forced one is second one is you know the all of the the the
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this section with input means one and wins they better be a
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good thing to work together and in the same in organisation
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you are supposed to be good teams and they are very good teams there's a lot of brecht is uh
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people know how to work on teen but on the next level there is huge difference my difference
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because look musicians a big egos much was your angels in compared musicians a horrible stuff
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you know the because they already developing on it and it's really it's terrible backed
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the moment they start playing masterpiece they become in a split second have gots
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can completely change in its second there another person another consciousness because the sort
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of the masterpiece book there's seventy or brahms first talk they are suddenly
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really somebody s. it stings come from and what isn't a business
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well well what what kind of music do print does this look it's read on one line no music is with no five lines
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no one line is called bottom line or you just you know members so it's a problem
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you don't have a masterpiece so this is what i do would be to companies we
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the how then too big to start operating like a focus right
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and they compose their own score but that will masterpiece
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so that's very interesting and mobile 'cause i yeah yeah right before they start playing they put you on a
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yeah yeah they're so lets them together air on before
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for change and we're all him one arrow
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keep singing any increase it in degrees and in the end yeah okay and i blame you yeah yeah
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yeah and
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yeah uh yeah it's very cool it's
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i like that so we can now start oh you and all your construct your
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controls of as close as you get very good do here in the back
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yes very good now knock letters i promise something to you this morning i said
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we will now experience together with us a musical strategy to
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start implementing stuff that you may discover do the conference
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because it's a very bad investments if you come here only that information and you go back and changed
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we really wanted to go back to change and on monday say yeah i'm allowed to go to get at least one two three
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implement it in what whatever it is and what we experience then which can be all patterns and it was it no no
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is it usual now if you only get powerpoint presentations then you give up you know because
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powerpoint has no power as you know but if you experience yeah and then you know
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yeah but you i want to take it probably looked up but if you experience you know
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i feel like african today is wonderful your laptop if you experience something very deep
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this is why i i've worked with bike trials in such a way that they go through music to painting
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two point three did with themselves into the ram are
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insane change ideas go to different forms of act
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which is fine it's all dangers you can experiment you can make mistakes
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it doesn't cost to to really you know it's it's that's why
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ads in its code created due to work in that you come back and suddenly while or you can do it in business here
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we should take art seriously it's not entertainment it's dead serious
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because it is for mighty forces of art that brings it to another type of consciousness with which
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you can solve or by levels so let's start stop talking i'm i'm using you use all
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this morning beginnings but this one today is like
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that yeah yeah i know it's very severe
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no it's s. data on double yeah did you count one two three got three things
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let's say you remember three things on the conference you want to
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really implement i don't say execute because execution comes from military
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implement a body or not execute remember i said we don't use deadlines to use
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lifelines you open it that data's lifelines the project is alive not that yeah
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hard storming not brainstorming brainstorming on the technology has storming humanly
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yeah what i saw what under three things you want to implement that only that the what's the first one
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what is your they were caught that you get enlightenment here that you want to implement
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i embrace the problem wonderful the second one i learned nothing ah
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yes a breeze the problem masterpiece thank you so much for one or a
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few will creative learn to ah ah yeah embrace and it's just tool
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what we got them through that now that show you how that would be implemented three okay
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you're ready seatbelts up up there for that's the fourth one sorry to four dollars cash flow
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you'll be a business some as such as the fourth one is a serious one because if you
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do our thing you do all these nice creative stop and masterpieces they will fire you
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if there's knows it's on one it's i'm one summer is also there's the casualties ugly one
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but now it could also happen this way what happens if they went to mackenzie
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ah yeah act as a strategy means to to reduce to
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this to to truly drivers in sixteen others will fall
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if you start with sixty three i can tell you it's good business as usual so first thing
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reduction concentration in germany is is fair the duke and you could only spot one point three
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so you have to make poetry out of your three things is that alright so let's start
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these three things now goal one implementation jodie
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yeah yeah uh an arrow yeah
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yeah yeah uh so what you hear is that it's it's as
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you know that's not a bad yesterday yeah okay okay
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too far away so you see it's it's commanding controlling two different
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divisions yeah uh yeah and and
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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just me or uh yeah um hum you yeah so that's the first the seventh yeah
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just you know you you must watch all these signals there is somebody maybe who
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things this is not the right style of leadership right so let's all one let's see what that consequence comes
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out of that i'm playing real music is bark well regarded as old is not something you know
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so is masterpiece uh air yeah or
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yeah yeah yeah yeah i
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then
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yeah i
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panic now abbott is running oh everybody's yeah yeah because if you have too much pressure
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like marriage of the thirty years up too much pressure then you know people still smile because they have to
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they have a job but inside they're trying to get out of this place because this me don't black
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does nineteen century leadership style yeah so what happens the pattern
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changes instead of three plus one we have suddenly labyrinth
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we could also couldn't fee you know people are scared to death log there
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are organisations who have few it's instrument like the you know that
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this horrible people's cat then that's how they run their businesses you know somebody like that right now
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uh and and you know the feel most of the top floor
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and it listed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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yeah i do they say say hire
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are and they call or
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so so this is a corporate cycle ah pressure panic more
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pressure and take over or sellout or whatever yeah i do
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recognise this better what happens here but it comes back
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the sidewalk on top move or power people thing you can solve the p. k.
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not so loud the rate is speaking back there are shaped like yeah
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so what happens if you try to solve problem with more power
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doesn't work but look how many times that is dried out doesn't work so
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we have to learn look more power to read one yeah yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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and going down i call it
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titanic syndrome you know it's going down but music in first class
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and i don't know if the job so what else do you can count
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one two gold one to one one one one did you know
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that means when he was scared you throw away embracing arts you throw
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away masterpiece you wanna look at one thing which is what
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the four to the bottom line of money you look at my biggest candy look at money what happens to money if you look at it this way
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we never look at money look at great stuff vision you know the money falls that's how it is in the world so
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it's the disaster yeah yeah yeah yeah i
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yeah i yeah or even all the fabrics you because the course to see the from foot the remote will it
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that's a problem yeah it's not ecology okay now what is the way how
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there's only one way out it discord lead go oh yeah okay
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that's the remedy you know because you do this in life three four times a like teenagers
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i and incorporated in our remote is the other people that you so use sort of
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the let go in c. can i restart the process with
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different attitudes with different structure masterpiece up arrow that go
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what do you notice it's gentle it's him in the home women are not so gentle sometimes but if you
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know if it's not it's add that it's not one octave higher it's big picture is not here now
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please e. o. s. soak it is gentle and it is another structure if you it was commanding
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and now it is conversational answer now the other goes on and
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said you know this is horizontal now so somebody starts
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on the other was as great uh well it isn't like that that's very nice now that's not one work on you would see it is able to talk about
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does everyone tell you okay i got to do with yeah so now they're guys you know was it and listen to this what job in the third one comes
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and is it no no no because i say that because like in the play
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to you don't say everything that's the problem with powerpoint it always says everything
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in additional space for your fantasy to unfold it tells you everything you like it the second it probably can do you
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think about it i don't think i'm negative i just say there isn't enough acting world we forgot about humanity
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yeah i uh am
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i yeah i
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yeah i am yeah yeah yeah yeah
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and i was new to you
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you know what's new now we start button up until now it was top down
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top down the dock noise bottom up very different starts exploring bottom up
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i don't know how in europe is beginning how is it in a job was in africa do they already starting bottom up or is what about
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yeah i see but will become unhealthy as much much better yeah sold ten
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n. yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah
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oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
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change you know this change of course applies to change
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do we all somebody around you in your you know where we live who has brilliant idea except they talk about
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the ten years old and it was in somebody like that what do you do when you see them coming
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yeah you make and you do you don't want to hit the room that is
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probably the best idea under the someone except ideas have timing my friends
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you must have sensitivity when is the right moment for the right idea otherwise you just
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have the walls nothing yes and you get frustrated so here we are with history
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it's not ready yet so we go now musicals twenty two
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on created d. to which means into the corpus it into plurality of that okay okay
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look i like you know you go around now into something as into the feeling
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yeah if you just do that's not head is now the
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heart is it circulation it has to do with
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tension and release like breath you know tension in
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yeah you know it is important in today's world of tension like readable worthy
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of what was a baby first thing with what screen no we
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take a breath in the new screen how long hundred years and the last thing i'll out it's all good to get us then so
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our life unfolds between these two am i never seen anybody
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do this off into high yeah yeah yeah that's
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what i would be is is it what it is he not only out so then because you get
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the you get it will do we're not simple service so it's about breast so helpful range the organisation
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that organisation starts to flow to break it otherwise you get nowhere so it's organic now next stage
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yeah yeah yeah i was actually sat back ha ha
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yeah it's there's one now yeah yeah resistance
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the resistance onto more new york in a little more careful from it
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for for you because bank yeah resistance because you know the pop
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people initiates change but when it starts coming bottom up
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what do they do they say row right performance report or something stupid and also the did
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put brakes on you because they give here if somebody pays and
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seems to blow up the really start changing changes dangerous
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count on the resistance if you get no resistance you're dead wrong morris's into getting what
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you do better off i'd i'd or nothing but was this is my life
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so just to tell you now resistance probably go on
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yeah yeah uh
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where are ah ah oh now and something is going to
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fish something is going to tell what is this
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you see this is the next stage of organisation when you enable people to come out people who stuff
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which is always connected to passion and feeling but they are scared to do that so you know they say this is
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no good they go off cycle the green there and hold hands and smiling talking on monday back to the black
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yeah because it's too dangerous to the real stop but what do we want to that
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you know more than organisation people should come with a passion in connected oppression
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like art is to pick one at six hundred percent of what we do because we love our masterpieces
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in people business connect sixteen percent according to i think it's in germany
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but never talk what was out you see it's more now or
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back to barry's battles tonight all these damn room
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to this fire goes from one line
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in this one line is the line of conscious this
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if you use people to come with that stuff
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of fire us to be there must be cool just in it not sort of here kong out
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at the conscious so you couldn't organise that five to
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become productive instead of destructive soul that is
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simple this is these are the stick on just these these gorgeous this doesn't exist in technology
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it means that you have fully well that i didn't identify in the same time absolutely groups or both
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that is what we can share we do artists now let's we together it's about breakthrough
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yeah we practised here again i'm just sits right no substantial back so using this an idol by fire
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and then you increase it when i come to the high point i'll be was signed a new screen
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shortly in the other yeah you're not what is nobody knows what's not just us so yeah yeah
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yeah yeah ah ah forced time so good you know i must with three times
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at the base was mobile at all but that i want that that
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really something fell down and one of the slide yeah but but you know
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i'm just trying to impart to you what it means break too
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which means now or never ever ever be that live situation you know not
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we're never if i don't do it now i can which thirty years
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or never this movement we know from earthquakes from the wars from local
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or boasting but you could also learn from arts in both you
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what is this you use if you just you know standard the right moment use is the moment as on top or not
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using now whenever and then you get their neighbours is ah charismatic or some bullshit like that you
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know it's hard work you know it's it's already let's want let's see whether pleats yeah i
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and ah
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yeah i uh an ad
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i i i i i guess the favour zero point in life around fourteen that we aren't you get one
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it's a big shit it was real crisis forty nine in the forties and
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ah but there is already light at the end of the tunnel there is yeah yeah there's light at the end of them
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but you know what i'm talking about because maybe people say i don't have occurrences in i tell them look at this guy he doesn't know
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that you get sick or bowling crisis because not noticing that you got
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it's it's the biggest crisis when you know this already halfway through
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so here we everything after all this i mean there's nothing yeah
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you're so where you know if you hit before ah yeah
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yeah it's it's who could good what would work who who who who rip yeah yeah
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our life suddenly turns into ships you know we are born with questioning and then dealing
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with don source whether it's alive that's what they walked and also we just are
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little clock in the big machine on source now really these it and question everything it was science
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just say three times because they have such authority you know if you have scientists with that with this and that try it
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my advice go after them and talk to them so long to do that was say yes it is on the theory
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but you have to work on it they want to do that because it's power when
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you think that you know the final just walk to them again i tell you
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you will get look you re and then tell them first ever this is my to
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read them listen to you so you're yeah so what now ah ha ah
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now he knew he now it's sickening replace everything is
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now open here we're full of old veterans
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full of business as usual full of what we know now we had this crisis point
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what can happen now my dear friends a merging future because start working with dead
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which wants to money face but the block it out with our past experiences
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you know this place johan board come coupon good that
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he calls it the power of productive resignation
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power of productive resignation productivity basic that's humans craft
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this is the highest leadership instrument that you come to the point where you productivity resign over
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your own problems which are usually ego generated you'd go to see what the problem
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now suddenly you read that realise that it's horrible experience
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in your completely empty and you lost your identity
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of the past and your last sunday opened for you i didn't get to come from every free
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people start responding to you because you make this step
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and that is what happens in the music now comes the
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idea from the corner yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah the busy now idea comes back to their out of the ashes and establishes new platform
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what was the difference between here and here there was a difference here it was one telling you what to do one
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here everybody's there uh an an really otherwise is so this is now called
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call creation my friends co creation call creation you know i'm i'm
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trying to change the business language you know they're talking
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when you meet somebody on the corridor that you always meet people according to the last the body will disable meeting
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well no the meeting another between good bread who likes meetings
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or not the beating you know you should tell them i go to local creation session
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to see everything would change in a split second there was it to get where
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is it i want to be part of that can imagine top floor
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corporations vocal credence actions instead of the ticks there's somebody would power tells us what to do
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i just think about it that's art this music corporation so what's the new rule the
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new release let come not let go let come it's now about emerging future
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let come how does it sound i would play the and the whole thing so how does this
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sound now now we're come to the real stuff sounds like these yeah yeah yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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i uh
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yeah
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uh and
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ooh
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ah
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yeah okay you get the spirit the flag is going up you see
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the my the beginning was negative in minority negative it's as bad
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yesterday i used to like you but you have to do it because she ever on others want it you know
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yep shareholders whatever share yeah is if it top they want this is all the box up now you got it yeah
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it's negative in now is exactly opposite it starts growing bottom up in major
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key positive inviting everybody in from the periphery book i uh at
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next wise to arrow
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yeah yeah yeah
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one four a and goes up in a was a into i
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fifteen one uh an
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yeah yeah i i usually the transformation
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this is what he'll companies want to go from transaction to transformation
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they would like to but they keep trying to do with transaction oh consciousness
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it's a different type of corn just means you need to develop to to go organic
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please think about that this is the only remedy to bring technology into the balance
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otherwise you operate of technology then you have it in your somewhere implied that that
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you can have it so far voice second voice that's envoys the
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four boys beautiful you know like us on showing up
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there are start their race coming from a very very good for the centre is
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full of light anybody here from poland like would be so any grant effect
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you know like rabid undertake
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okay this this is caught in your organisation of the realm is good prototyping
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you can or throws for huge organisation impossible it once you make a little prototype somewhere
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but it's all good bit so much either conviction that it starts to shine in the rest of the
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company gets positively unhappy supposedly would nervous what's going on
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there why do they have such front it
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it it starts you know tsunami starts waves like going around is sadly
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everybody notice there's four people and experiences there it's not enough
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to get because it to make for you a powerpoint presentation how
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to browse for blog you can see the bread or what
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you just have bad dreams is about experience to create experience to
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make inspiration centring or company and gary experiment but how
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to get things organic instead of machine who wants to live
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in hershey joke caught the sound was again uh
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yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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yeah yeah no i if you do it well then you can skate now skating as possible
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you know now kansas caning or or cascading if you scored integration now everything gets
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integrated to the final phase like in human life you know you see these uh teenagers
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twenties thirties forties fifties with it after six to the life starts before just preparation
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i tell you i'm on two sixty prepared i start slowly uh you know then you loaded with top now
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how is the integration how does it sounds skating
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yeah and it started chaos like here like you
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so okay i was is the force beginning of something new you know we have new things don't expect
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into nicely need need to come to you it's mass even the baby was more that you did
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yeah mess all block mode it's a week or so it's it's it's you know the mass
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everywhere in the world the same you need mess to see something new is arising except in germany
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i can imagine that they are that's good yeah but but the rest value mess
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yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah what year this
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remember you were singing all
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you seek good that's going in and questions they going yes
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up questions and consciousness yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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remember titanic power
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yeah so power
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power goes him and i asked the priest power good stuff or is it that stuff have power
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of course you know it's the best nice the best but i would just add them you know but imagine
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how much are with power is the worst yeah so it you must master to be interested in our
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otherwise you problems crop also what this power nasty how are they related in what comes of the power
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you get a laugh
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ah you it was you remember entity so if you have power
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you better have also input the enough otherwise it's very destructive
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do you know anybody who only has power in absolutely no laugh i would run
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and scream so okay then you have this yeah this goes eight yeah
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the final and then yeah yeah and then we can finally there there
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yeah
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yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah and there is a a the end
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or regional statement becomes a question yeah or what
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uh well it is so interesting who is all the time but now suddenly it is presented as a
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question you know this has to do the identity identity is not there and they they ask
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the identity of ourselves we are when you ask us if one
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live also about then identity begins to appear before you're
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not leaving yet this question of self knowledge is the beginning of real life the rest is you know just
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really that's all uh and there are up to
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capital yeah up because the capital is not money
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capabilities to do the right thing at the right moment as you have it hidden is music i'm done
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i hope this was all too long because they want to lower now from this in terms of conversation
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way entails as this story house storyline how to
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created company around us in in the process ourselves develop ourselves to our higher
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potential highs potential that's why did you see there are seven stages
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there's a lot in it just think about it now can you please
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don't your neighbour intel each other various talk on this journey
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e. so uh in any way let me just sit there a real every day
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posted it really is this horrible stop by playing it once true yeah so yeah
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and i wish you really good journey wherever you are you know
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Conference Program
ICCA Congress 2017 Day 1 - First Time Attendees Introduction Programme (1/2)
Nov. 12, 2017 · 9:24 a.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 1 - First Time Attendees Introduction Programme (2/2)
Nov. 12, 2017 · 11:07 a.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 1 - Opening session
Nov. 12, 2017 · 1:05 p.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 1 - General assembly
Nov. 12, 2017 · 4:37 p.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 2 - Monday Morning Wake up Call
Nov. 13, 2017 · 9:14 a.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 2 - Make changes not excuses
Nov. 13, 2017 · 10:47 a.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 2 - President’s Choice Session: Collaborative Professionalism: The next knowledge frontier
Prof. Andrew Hargreaves, Brennan Chair in Education, Lynch School of Education
Nov. 13, 2017 · 12:22 p.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 2 - Associations in the "Shark tank"
Nov. 13, 2017 · 2:42 p.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 2 - “Predatory conferences” – A serious and disturbing danger to international associations and their meetings?
Nov. 13, 2017 · 4:33 p.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 3 - Best Marketing Award
Nov. 14, 2017 · 9:06 a.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 3 - Bridging the Culture Gap: insights and tools on how to communicate effectively across cultures
Pellegrino Riccardi, Founder, Pellegrino Consulting
Nov. 14, 2017 · 1:50 p.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 3 - Shared Cities: Creative Momentum – how to re-imagine cities using a true sharing economy philosophy
Nov. 14, 2017 · 3:35 p.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 4 - The Copenhagen Denmark Lecture - 13 questions
Nov. 15, 2017 · 9:04 a.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 4 - The Disruptive Art Of Leadership
Miha Pogacnik, Managing Director, ECOCULTURE S.E.C.S.
Nov. 15, 2017 · 10:37 a.m.
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ICCA Congress 2017 Day 4 - Closing Session
Nov. 15, 2017 · 12:08 p.m.
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