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stating that i 'cause it's the tasting session doesn't quick show intel's i'm i'm just to take a step back from
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us and i think um the fact that this room is is but it is is a real kind of
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um expression of the fact that um caches become a really important
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part of a programming both in the humanitarian and in the development space then
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we've talked so far really about an extension of um okay uh
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cash and humanitarian spaces for it is also worth does remind ourselves of not about a
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hundred and thirty developing countries that have some kind of unconditional constraints of uh
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um as as part of the public programs and that's connecting about seven hundred million people
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uh to some kind of a catch phrase transfers light caches in a good place in in many in many senses um
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and although we uh we think that we're quite far from
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uh coming to scout we could we should celebrate that
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i think we also don't want to be complacent and i guess that's why we
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here um and so it is important to kind of keep asking that
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question that i think the cash panel also the well about why not cash we should keep pressing on
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that but as cash comes to scale i think it's also worth us asking the second question
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um and some of that has been touched on a bit uh today which is around what
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is the best way of delivering cash so we know the cache the good idea
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but i think part of what we're doing it could directly is to experiment with different ways of doing cash
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um and what we know from uh and uh the evidence
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is that the way in which you deliver cash
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varies depending on how much money you gave um how often
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you give it somewhat frequency is and who you
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give it to so these kinds recall variables that one can kind of play with an experiment with
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um and depending on on what combination of those three things three things
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you do you will end up getting a different type of outcome
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um i'm gonna take a little bit um of of liberty in
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intention might refund cents i was also speak about one example
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of how we're doing now sometimes gonna speak very briefly about two things that we're doing will be different i suppose
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so and the majority of the way that cash is used in
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humanitarian sex uh really marries the way that such protection programs
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are designed in the sense that we gave on selected people
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small amounts of money quite often so it's kind of
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to use about on technical term little and often cache um
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um but what we could do is we could actually on increase the free
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b. we could actually just the frequency of payments and get different results
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and possible within give directly is an l. sort of longer term development programs
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it's rather than giving small monthly payments what we do is we roll up those payments into fuel
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a lot cheaper on so we giving 'em grounds in the region of a
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thousand us dollars which is the equivalent of a household income free year
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what we find is when we compare doing that with
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giving smaller monthly payments um we get a different
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type of result and specifically if you give people very small payments what they're likely to do this
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as we will do is make sure got enough food to get from one day to next and uh
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no wait for the next payment and do the same is very difficult to accumulate um capital
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but when we give people these large alum psalms what that enables them
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to do is to invest in durable assets including productive last that
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and masses than helping them um to you uh into increase that the endings improve their livelihood
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so i think possible learning as it can yeah is it this kind
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of lump sum approach is actually more graduated if you like
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um and could if good different benefits and so i think this kind of question that
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we would have about whether or not you might get similar uh additional benefit
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by sizing transfers differently including in humanitarian can sex not all of them
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but one could imagine for example in the aftermath of natural disasters and some
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protracted refugee settings adjusting that's noise in could be an important way forward
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and the second example is what i was actually page talk about not page talk about and words um
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around um universal basic income and in that case what
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we're doing is we're changing the targeting criteria
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so again in my social protection programs including humanitarian programs
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um we select is a subset people to receive
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benefits um with universal basic income the clues in the name in the sense that we are targeting
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everyone within a particular community not just those living in
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extreme poverty not just widows not just all funds
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um but everybody and if we have to remember of course the screen
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she's mature working everyone is very pool boy you your my standards
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um and so in um october last yeah we um launched one
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of the walls first three trials of universal basic income
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the idea of e. v. i. has been around for a very long time and basically the idea is that if everybody could rely
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on on a small amount of income sufficiently that basic needs then that would enable people
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um so you a given of of a high degree of security and
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it would then enable them to invest more time and money
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things like education in starting a business all learning new skills
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for java unlike conventional welfare schemes we change it
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go on and off them depending on a new means this is a much more predictable flow finance
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it's an idea that's attracted a lot of debate on including in developing countries of finland canada
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scott and i'm i'm on the countries that ought to bite the question as is as is india
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and um the at the may we we as ever kind of mutual um whether or not it's a good idea
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um and so we put a massive great randomised control trial on the top of it to find out whether
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or not it does indeed to yield benefits on the advocates of d. b. i suggest that it well
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um but i think what both of these examples suggest is that as we
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work to scale cash it's going to be really important not to be
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complacent there's only one way of doing cash we need to be really innovating and learning
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about different configurations of cash and making sure that we using the blight
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formulation of cash on in the right place at the right time
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clear what all the particular outcomes that we're trying to achieve i think the second
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fraction ice have from both these examples is the the real opportunity to you
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i think increase learning between humanitarian and the development communities must my sense is that maybe
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we have a little bit of a humanitarian catch community under development catch community
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um and actually that's a real pity because um there are lots of lessons

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Conference program

Opening
Nigel Timmins, Humanitarian Director, Oxfam International and Chair of CaLP Board
28 June 2017 · 9:09 a.m.
Formal Welcome
Manuel Bessler, Assistant Director General and Head of Humanitarian Aid Department, SDC
28 June 2017 · 9:48 a.m.
Looking to the future : Panel introduction
Christina Bennett, Head of the Humanitarian Policy Group, ODI
28 June 2017 · 9:56 a.m.
Looking to the future: Social Cash Transfer in Response to Ebola in Liberia
Gabriel Fernandez, National Social Protection Coordinator, Liberian Government
28 June 2017 · 9:56 a.m.
Looking to the future : MasterCard perspective
Ian Taylor, Vice President, Business Development, Government & Public Sector, MasterCard
28 June 2017 · 10:12 a.m.
Looking to the future : International Relations perspective
Jennifer Welsh, Professor and Chair in International Relations, European University Institute and Senior Research Fellow, Somerville College, University of Oxford
28 June 2017 · 10:30 a.m.
Q&A - Looking to the future
Panel
28 June 2017 · 10:37 a.m.
Operational Modalities : Panel introduction
Ben Parker, Senior Editor, IRIN
28 June 2017 · 11:08 a.m.
Operational Modalities : Sri Lanka experience
Sithamparapillai Amalanathan, Secretary, Ministry of Disaster Management, Sri Lanka
28 June 2017 · 11:10 a.m.
Operational Modalities : Turkish experience
Orhan Hac?mehmet and Jonathan Campbell, Resp: Coordinator Of Kizilaykart Cash Based Assistance Programmes, Turkish Red Crescent - Deputy Country Director, WFP, Turkey
28 June 2017 · 11:21 a.m.
Operational Modalities : Zimbabwe experience
Abel. S. Whande, Team Leader, Cash Transfer Program, Care International in Zimbabwe
28 June 2017 · 11:36 a.m.
Operational Modalities : UNHCR experience
Waheed Lor-Mehdiabadi, Chief of Cash-Based Interventions, UNHCR
28 June 2017 · 11:45 a.m.
Q&A - Operational Modalities
Panel
28 June 2017 · 12:01 p.m.
Scaling Up Cash In East Africa : Panel introduction
Christina Bennett, Head of the Humanitarian Policy Group, ODI
28 June 2017 · 1:32 p.m.
Scaling up Cash in East Africa: Nisar Majid
Nisar Majid, Independent Researcher, Consultant and Visiting Fellow, Feinstein International Centre, Tufts University
28 June 2017 · 1:32 p.m.
Scaling Up Cash In East Africa : ADESO perspective
Deqa Saleh, Cash and Social Protection Advisor, ADESO
28 June 2017 · 1:46 p.m.
Scaling Up Cash In East Africa : WFP perspective
Ernesto Gonzalez, Regional Advisor for cash-based programmes, WFP Bureau for Central and Eastern Africa
28 June 2017 · 1:52 p.m.
Scaling Up Cash In East Africa : Relief International perspective
Alex Gray, Global Humanitarian Director for Relief International
28 June 2017 · 1:58 p.m.
Q&A - Scaling Up Cash In East Africa
Panel
28 June 2017 · 2:06 p.m.
Significant Updates : Panel Introduction
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28 June 2017 · 2:33 p.m.
Cash Barometer and community perspectives of CTP in Afghanistan
Elias Sagmiester, Programme Manager, Ground Truth Solutions
28 June 2017 · 2:35 p.m.
First long-term trial of a Universal Basic Income, Kenya
Joanna Macrae, Director, European Partnerships, GiveDirectly
28 June 2017 · 2:44 p.m.
Changing from a pipeline to a platform
Paula Gil Baizan, Global Humanitarian Director Cash-Based Programming, World Vision International
28 June 2017 · 2:51 p.m.
Grand Bargain and GHD cash work streams
Emily Henderson, Humanitarian Adviser, DFID
28 June 2017 · 3:02 p.m.
Donor Perspectives : Panel introduction
Thabani Maphosa, Vice President for Food Assistance, World Vision International, World Vision US
28 June 2017 · 3:39 p.m.
Donor Perspectives : ECHO vision
Androulla Kaminara, Director, DG ECHO
28 June 2017 · 3:42 p.m.
Donor Perspectives : Office of Policy and Resources Planning's vision
Paula Reed Lynch, Director, Office of Policy and Resources Planning, Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration
28 June 2017 · 3:49 p.m.
Donor Perspectives : Norway vision
Ingunn Vatne, Minister Counsellor and Head of the Humanitarian team, Permanent Mission of Norway in Geneva
28 June 2017 · 3:58 p.m.
Donor Perspectives : DFID vision
Patrick Saez, Senior Adviser, Humanitarian Policy and Partnerships, DFID, UK
28 June 2017 · 4:08 p.m.
Donor Perspectives : Centre for Global Development vision
Jeremy Konyndyk, Senior Policy Fellow, Centre for Global Development
28 June 2017 · 4:22 p.m.
Q&A - Donor Perspectives
Panel
28 June 2017 · 4:39 p.m.
Closing Remarks
Alex Jacobs, Director, CaLP
28 June 2017 · 5:27 p.m.