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q. roman chinese or for this very kind introduction this is uh the for me um great
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great pleasure to be here a wheeze you in and also a great tone or
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uh in the steaming including a highly under
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a well known a better d.'s
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and and also this is for first time for me here though so i'm happy to
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see where you guys are working so uh thank you very much for this edition
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uh i will share with you uh i don't know if it's i can use this one or
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no okay i would share with you uh uh okay so i'm in a
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data on a micro physical saying uh in general or extras to leviticus
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so on my talk will be divided into three parts i will first uh give you some background
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uh about extra citadel visitors and i sing this is worse uh having
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some ideas about what is what are these extras love because because
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they are rising stars these expressive dramatically up here
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uh as promising by your markers and we'll talk of that in the
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field of liver disorders and uh also play differently a crucial role
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in many does alderson we see that in the field of a series is
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so let's start with some background about these extras to law physicals
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expressed in america's include exerts alms very small extra syllables acres
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this is on the left side they have a diameter ranging
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from forty to one hundred and then no matter
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a bit bigger microbe physicals having a diameter of one one two one micro matter
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and then you can be your updated body is having a diameter of one for my commenters
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to give you a an idea of what are these what is
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the size exerts some is about this time of a virus
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michael basically this is around the size of bacteria and
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uh uh putting buddies have a size of projects
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oh these actresses rather seekers uh ah are different by is the size but
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also by the way z. are released if you take a exams
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they are released from uh maybe we could all buddies here you can see on the some
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basic on that topic and up into a within the cell into metaphysical of bodies
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and this is ridiculous bodies fuse with the past my membrane releasing the
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extras in last place this is very very small basic ups
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then microbes acres micro physicals are released by cells
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in the extra salami jen following typically
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to stimuli user up to these early steps off up those ace or activation
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a good example of cell activation which is uh quite we're name is abruptly activation
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you likely know that black cat wins are resting have a round shape
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they are circulating in the broad but as soon as you had an injury to the vessel sent to completely change
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the shape and they had so the parts that are able to uh a block the injury and this
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uh extremities easter but can we need extra syllables thickens
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so stimuli for a micro physical really is is
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a activation circulation or uh up to these
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so the sizes open one one michael matter and they expose that there's a phase in this is important for
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the function expose i i cannot make forcefully beats uh
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which are a negatively charged a forcefully bits
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even bigger this is a a pathetic but these are really is of course
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my sadness and uh going up those these but they stages of
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operators is the cell is dying and the new clues is from abated
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and you can see the n. a. wheezing z.'s updating buddies
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this one are a bit difficult to study because if you take friends on the block
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we've got a sizing data packets so it's difficult to discriminate the same from a pet sets and therefore
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you will rarely see papers on this about that big bodies i think mainly for technical reasons
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and also for question off along because are quite rare in the broad for instance
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so the rest of my talk will be mainly on uh this actress allow visitors
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exerts um so and a microwave signals and you will see that the separation
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in size is quite arbitrary and there is an overlap them but to see that in two seconds
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so these are just a lot of the goods we can detect them so many techniques and i'm showing you few techniques
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for you to understand the negation of fruit which one and
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also um the positive aspect of each one flow centimetre
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percentage of this is just like for said you know this is a you've got
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a really clean us the right and uh this week we go through laser and then
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depending on the size uh you've got a different reflection of the uh laser
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and you can it i mean from that the size of the event the physical that goes to the laser
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and we've got calibrated needs and we can we can mean a gate of events
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uh having a size of micro physicals namely open one to one michael matter
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but the problem with rosetta mitre is that we can
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barely see smaller micro physicals don't one between
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open one two three my computer with new generation it's easier but this is an indication
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but the advantage of frustrating batteries that you can use on tape up
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a body to let their each micro physical and then did
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i mean the sell off arranging of micro basic years because i
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told you that these microphones gives out the right from sense
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and the force ah my critical derive from about aside from white blood cell from a richer
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size except ah so with prostate imagery we can that i mean the sort of origin
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there are also techniques uh for instance uh then a nice uh like scattering
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which is based on the the brian movement of a very good
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a a physical memo makes a little bit and there is a relationship between the size in the uh movement
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and with that again you can that i mean with the high accuracy the size and you can go to very
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very small size you can see this inanimate or we can go to a even less than ten an animator
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this is a preparation of a extra syllables acres and you can see the quantity
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here is one michael matter open one my computer and therefore here are my credit cards
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but you can see that uh here this is one
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three two one my computer namely this population
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and you can see that it represents only only very small pop that prozac dimitri can see
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um you can also see from that that the separation doubt two peaks um
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to be imitation is on something like a fifty nine an utterance of all these
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different between it was um and uh michael basic you'll is a bit arbitrary
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and you should you in fact we are using a soup of extra sullivan suckers
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and uh rick review over do not like so much now that we use microwaves get all examine prefer that
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we use the damn extra syllables acres even sometime large or small but be cautious wheeze is differences
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so did the advantage of that is that we cannot uh no the set of reaching off excess another ticket
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we can use that technique we developed the technique very simple
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which is based uh on the filtration off the plasma
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and take a plus model we find try distressed mass who pours
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we remove a microwave because then we can do one eliza
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and fight rate again through very very small balls and then remove uh exerts arms and
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from that we can deduce uh the the uh marcus present on visit cuts
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so i'm i'm done with this technique technical background but the purpose was to show you
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that there are many techniques each one has is its advantages and it's this advantages
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where can we find extra syllables acres of course from
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from the broad it's known from a four years
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but also it can be detected in also by the
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free it's in the study via even individuals free
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in a year in in signal creating joins also
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and you might know that remote reduced our uh injecting the p. r. p. you
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know it's our uh in fact i think p. l. p. this is my
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critical ceases project reach plus my that contains a lot of activity packets and i
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think the room they in fact inject a lot of a micro physicals
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but also in most source and you can weakness i in a
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utterance critique black star huge number of uh uh mike really
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crazy not to read this heretic blacks and of course in i say this in the lever in in the bank
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so here is an electron microscopy picture off of
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patients that uh i took you recognise
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uh here at the platform membrane off any better sideways the mic loose with the mitochondria
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your mitochondria again and hear your recognise the the red dot sounds so here is this in is it
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here you can see many degrees and if you use a higher magnification is then
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you realise that this the brace on of the boy is this all musicals
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and the size is in the run of micro physicals
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here is another intern because the big picture
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if you are familiar with extra microscopy you can recognise generator side here here
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and you got to say is the nucleus and with the mitochondria
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here is enigmatic straight cell containing a becoming a year or two percent and
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here you can see us from a small cell between all the sadness
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and if this is another sickle cell and if you use uh how many
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vacation you can see that the cell is releasing an express illogical
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that might go to another send and leave a message to a neighbouring sent from
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so let's move to uh michael musicals in the last ah of patient and
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i will show you that we could make a missing my markers
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this id started a few years ago and um
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and you poking d. to a measure
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mm mm plus my my commas goes from a patients wheeze a series is
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but we do can or how many clad and uh from
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healthy controls and we measured during uh using frostbite dimitri
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micro visitors from a disease patients and since controls and uh uh we
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before i'm a two characterisation and we were able to a measure
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mike ridiculous off really cool on the serial already because this marker is
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i'm not specific user for look aside or on the solar cells
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from really can side from info site andy richter side and we saw that
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one simple operations where increased in a patients always yours is and also
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um we observe that the where quite an amount of data site micro basically think
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patients resources while uh almost no can could be detected a in healthy controls
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so it was uh the first interesting result then we looked at a dire is
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a child puke scroll to have the the the the relationship with the severity
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and we saw an increase with the severity of zero these of my critical afrikaners
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it already in an off my critical off but the site or e. g.
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and even more we so that uh it look my critical awfully consider reading aware
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also stated we is that patients should label independently off che puke score
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so based on these uh results we
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uh obtain funding to perform another
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study to try to body that properly in a prospective study if
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uh extras to law physicals and particularly about aside my
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cover the 'cause where associated with patients survivor
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so with we perform these uh yesterday uh we surpass cohort with station
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i'm from both almost be ten from our centre an evaluation cohort
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that has been perform with uh the um i'm gonna need a unit imbecile enough uh uh
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but i think for this occasion a so it was a nice
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a collaboration and you can see that uh the inclusion
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the patient included where uh uh be different between two cohort emotional
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so we're mainly hardcore related charities well enough to know where where uh
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mainly it today d. c. related as zeros is have to say
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that all the stations where stable patients norris and acted even newbie d.
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no real interagency no uh um infection except ross table patients
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i think it's more frequently move on a bit less in missouri nah a. g. c.
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more indoors or less muscle nah and uh you take you wear out was um
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a you mean most of division in about an hour and it was a bit once on off each in a bottle
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so if first reserved a impetus like micro physical level among the different stages uh
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off here is is an as in the initial uh paper we observe that
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michael physical uh uh for me but the sight reading increase with the severity of
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series is most emotional and was in a in also in muscle now
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then uh uh we um that i mean a threshold use using the you don't fest
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and uh we found that the level of a sixty five you need the leader
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can a separate to outcome which are significant
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uh mm because patients who is
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a high about the site level high sorry um my critical of a of a better
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site uh in the broad have a poorer outcome this is six months survivor
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uh we've computing recently these uh both in that escort and in the validation core
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therefore it appears that the resulting weekly between about aside my
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critical levels an outcome of the patients and then
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we try to fit patients according to mel score to see if this is more uh mm uh uh
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there is more information in c. v. r. on not to patients and we so that
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it got to save my critical levels uh elevated play uh an important role in patients
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with is a an alto both fifteens or four in b. c. your patients so
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please keep that in mind that uh the um micro physical about separating are as sated with
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patients survivor in severe cases it will be you will see link at the un
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okay so michael was occurs uh are present in the broad of
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patient with your resists menus of population make an increase and
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uh we find that about aside my critical levels are related to patient outcome
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but why are these micro the consolidated in the lot of the patients
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when we are talking about the concentration of something we have
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to take into account user clearance or production abbas
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what about the appearance of micro physicals so we assess that was a
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unknown and for that we need a funny experiment with the physicians
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uh he says sorry we took mike with the kids and
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we a lot by this micro physically with no no
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particles this is there there is more bits of iron you can see here
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uh my critical decorated with iron and then we
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injected z. is a microwave figures into mice
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and perform enter i and as you know like innovations always a remote commented this when i run is
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taken by in organs and you've got the decrease in the intensity of the signal so here
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our mice you can recognise like innovation here this being here
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uh is the um uh the back of the patients of the um the
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mouse uh here is the lever and uh here is this the match
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and you can see that after injection there is a decreasing
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intensity in the screen and also in the lever
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and i didn't show you the lines batteries also decrease in the lines are for the the uptake
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your clearance off mike over the course of course in the lever in the speed and uh
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in the rounds mainly in macrophages but also in on the sears sells in these organs
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so possibly in patients with zeros these scenes theories them action
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we can speculate that there is a decreased clearance
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but what about production we say that my cover the goods are really is following
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activation and up to this is there in patients with a series is
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features suggesting that in fact there is yes the earning between
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uh inflammation about disease and a micro physical levels
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so in what we do is we uh analyst a micro physical levers
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in peripheral vein from patients but also in it i think they
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and we observe that delivers where higher in it i
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think they designed in peripheral vein suggesting uh that
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the um the source of these visitors was that you don't which was expected but we demonstrated that
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and then saying to a collaboration with our but to reduce anyway but
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id we uh the account she quantified uh is the logical
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decisions in patients having a dog and uh and uh my critical
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measurement and she quantified yesterday connectivity user mine or see here
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she quantify fibre this is or uh my farmers it all
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not so i don fibres is f. three uh f. already neck a overridden timers this
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and she also was able to see some apple petite uh says uh uh in some years on not
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and in all cases we so that patients we use a high activity
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up to this in the lever but also more fibre these hide
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higher levels off a a better site micro physical suggesting
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that information and that both of these contributed to increase a micro physical diverse
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and we also not eighteen both patient population uh features i associated with
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um my critical levels and we found of course uh severity
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score of zero this uh so the serum sodium
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a. j. p. g. or a migration but features off information we are
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uh associated with where they're incorporated with uh michael with the colours
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the white uh i think that we can uh conclude that in
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our patient with yours is michael basically levels are increased
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possibly following a decrease clearance and likely following an increased
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inflammation an apple do this within the lever
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so i'm mike was a girls are a power by improvising buyer markers but do they play
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a role in zero the spectral physiology and so um i guess that we is uh
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a well known leaders in a prototype attention you i've here or if you are aware of the fact
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of his energy off bottle it attention that includes first an increase in try putting christians with
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uh you know fibres this but also on justin is is and a calculation activation possibly
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and second even is a spanking evaluation and sickening relation leading
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to a non increased both are to go through and port hypertension
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and let's look at the possible roll off my critical in these events
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um there are features out data suggesting that my critical can contribute
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to lever fibres is just pay these example where also rose
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uh incubate it back to sites wheeze fatty acids and it but
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aside for when you think mission really is micro physical expressing
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uh try and trace all my critical is is able to interact with the
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air for four five sorry i just a face off macrophages and then
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is able to induce the release of a inflammatory
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meticulous and favour fibre didn't is is so
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from that you can uh understand that my covers acres transfer miss h.
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from about aside to neighbouring cells and the way of interaction in
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this example this is a rare leyden receptor interaction with issue i
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will show you in a few seconds also way off interactions
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and all those things so like under certain texan and they are a a pretty can contact cells that are quite close
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regarding your budgeting disease if you expose it but decides
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to separated free a fatty i see it's
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see the battle sites really is a micro as acres exposing than
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in one and in that case michael was a curse
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fuse fuses on the serial says and that's heaved won the civil said men in one
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which induces and easy so in that case this is a different
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way of interactions not the like under certain directions is a
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fusion and zen micro physicals can give to the uh target set
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of a manicured and then you're change uh the function
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uh with the team of something to say we uh the most
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trade you that uh in the lever a portal i'm sorry
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by decks can activate portal maya for blast and this bottle
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my from last can really is micro physical does that
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contain v. g. f. and e. g. f. is able to act
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on memory sense cells and activate through v. g. f. receptor
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uh on vision is is so and again another demonstration that a
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microwave makers can contribute to reliever on june is is
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so to summarise about satan bottle my from last uh in use the vaunted in this
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at that stage i would like to emphasise the fact that my covers acres
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i'd like to do initially are the right from one cell and therefore zack
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content in protein in leap it uh in even in nucleic acid
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changes from the cell they are the right from in uh
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in other words micro physical derive from any better side
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do not have the same contends than my critical dram from right but said and
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also my critical the right from another say that said but even mail
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what is interesting leave the composition and also action off mike
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americans depends on the stimulus initiating is yeah blading
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in other words if you take on the seat and sales in your activities on the see themselves
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with history three stimuli you will not have the same composition off micro physical part of
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competition will become an but the part would be specific and this is really important to when you
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want to assess because we have to uh take michael recruit from a a set then
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setting and if you take my career to get the right from patient with like my about induction
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it is the effect will not be the same as micro physical derive from patient resources
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so let's go back to um my critical wheezing and selection and deliver
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um my chorus acres are also procurement why are my critical pro quite a lot
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you have to consider that quite relation activation of course implicate cognition factors
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but cognition factors are present in the blood circulating all the time
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and to facilitate the interaction between uh various regulation factors
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you need a membrane facilitating the interaction this membrane can be
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activated brackets but this number in can be also
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a micro physicals because they expose that justifies i'm positive searing that a
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a low is the uh uh greg asian of calculation factors
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so my covers because our program but some micro visitors are highly providing pro quite good on this
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is micro visitors expressing at the surveys tissue factor and i remind you that you should factor
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is uh the main activator obligation fact cascade
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disaffected basically is present in will places where you shouldn't be
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and there's and the capture of the lever in the brain in the your tears on
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nobody's ever is not she factor we seem uh the broad because of the way you activate regulation
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oops
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but uh in this is conditions like uh innovation we sure is this
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that could be pushed factor expresses low level inman aside the group
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uh of of you already demonstrated that some years ago we is an increased activity
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of shekels in money aside inpatient with your these we series is security
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and users who softly should factor in a patient resources within
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the broad is microwave records and lots of that
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i mean crazy in the concentration of micro physicals caring teacher factor in the blood
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so could this just factor present in the broader affirmation resources contribute to the
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now well known activation of go regulation s. eighteen with yours is
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we test is that uh some years ago and to make a long
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story short what we demonstrating using twenty make any matters is that
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when there is a leader injury there is an accusation of tissue factor was in the lever
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and this activation of recognition you within your reach to quite relation activation
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directly and also through a tissue factor positive micro physicals
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and we must repeat also that a mother's side even those are increased uh they're a
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check darkly d. c. no they do not play a role in calculation activation
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so it was for the intrepid peek a pot let's have a look at the role all possible
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roar of micro physical on the uh strongly against any uh part of cotton have attention
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we just did that some years ago by taking a the um route from
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patient with zeros this and basically what we did is uh we even
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incubate is just my critical from patient with arctic rings from right
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and then we assessed muscular activity using a mm uh organ chalmers
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and what we demonstrated is that micro physicals of station with zeros is in their
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contraction uh to buy the constructive asians and there's facilitate as as a delegation
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and the mechanism is that the my critical i able to shoes with on the set and said is
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and when they fuse with on the serial says they give to when the serial set
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is a substrate for the arsenic as it passed way and screw cops one
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the new so really is of course process taking it was x. v. view uh
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the experiment but also what we d. easy weekend we injected into nice
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a micro basic years from patients uh we is a series this and we observe that
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the mike was good i able to decrease appeal brought pressure of uh mice
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the for a micro circulating macros information resources
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uh i think uh nearly the list of the factors that uh
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contribute to presentation uh uh and typically spanky presentation vision resources
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so
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i was very uh interesting my newspaper that was coordinated by uh whether
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it be an uh i may or so uh the i think
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and on my paper where uh america's and which is a pun 'cause spies in
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meter has been a testy in patients we is a a competitive zeros this
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and uh the mustard and measure a g. p. g. prior
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to a beginning the treatment and after the treatment
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an invasion with the lou or not very high a. g. p. g. below twelve in a in a matter of mccurry
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there was no impact off uh this uh in a tour of cast as on
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a d. v. d. but in patients we is your prototype
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attention seeking uses a decrease in portal uh hypertension
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and this is really reminiscent of what we observe the
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in our studies where we included on the um
00:30:17
and they can call point of view only beijing wheeze a secure servers instead p. b. or c.
00:30:22
and also uh for reminiscent of the studies where we see
00:30:26
that to my critical of the better set the reading
00:30:29
um our stated we survival only in patients who is a
00:30:33
high email score so i have the feeling that
00:30:36
uh is is micro physical play a role uh in patients with advanced as yours is
00:30:42
so we would be very very interested by the phase three right try and that is finished and great
00:30:51
in conclusion a microwave because our our very small
00:30:55
basic also point one one micro meter
00:30:58
as a contain many things uh only pete's protein and nucleic acid
00:31:03
they just circulating levels are increase the eh in patients with
00:31:07
zeros is particularly by the side and michael physicals
00:31:10
uh they are early markers of organ the function and
00:31:16
in my view there are there are present um
00:31:20
continuing a lever injury and i think it could it could be just a marker
00:31:25
discriminative patient that has to be an ongoing either injury for some reason
00:31:31
from the patients that has no more even dorian will maybe re remain more stable
00:31:36
uh and micro suckers uh are implicated in the butt of his early part of you at the many stages
00:31:42
offer you but this is a progression fibres these i didn't this is coalition activation and portal hypertension
00:31:48
i would like to thank you for attention and saying the team and the guys are they do work
00:31:54
thank you very much
00:32:01
thank you
00:32:13
if
00:32:15
yeah and i think you just to do it right
00:32:22
i formation you say used it as as you get like this so
00:32:27
any bandage less as which we have right e. to that
00:32:33
one good reason mike that or you have another process
00:32:39
these triggering i. e. e. e. to formation like hammers e.
00:32:49
so uh uh the um the formation uh
00:32:53
include gates um uh for instance uh
00:32:58
it's not to um by chance i would say uh it implicates stimuli that in due season much
00:33:04
engine can some level was in the senate and changes in the um uh the sector skeleton
00:33:10
uh i do surveys of mike americans so mm uh it's
00:33:15
uh uh the i would say yes a regulated process
00:33:19
a very light up to this is regulated um it's not
00:33:25
just an injury uh for like a new courses
00:33:28
i would say so mm uh are there
00:33:33
cantor even that prevent the activation of uh the
00:33:37
release of micro basic or else uh if
00:33:41
it's hard to say it directly if they uh as our sings that
00:33:45
directly uh prevent vacation you take for instance the uh the guess personally bitter
00:33:50
uh and the principal desire for lead for even the reserve my critical but
00:33:55
i don't know if this is really a and then to my eye
00:33:57
on time my critical uh uh um a drag so um
00:34:03
uh how to to give the straightforward and sell it
00:34:10
mm
00:34:30
i think a lot of stuff
00:34:38
well i actually so
00:34:47
so
00:34:49
in e.
00:34:52
so probably not
00:34:55
oh
00:35:16
yes
00:35:18
so what do i know what i mean
00:35:25
send it in the butt on the leader
00:35:36
yeah i say well yeah you know what
00:35:44
the age
00:35:50
i sell for them
00:36:05
if it's
00:36:10
so uh the first um i'm not sure that they are in
00:36:15
the blood but byproduct this is nice um it's not
00:36:20
the the first and we've got to have discussion between is
00:36:23
that clearance of macros again or is that specific targeting
00:36:28
to belong to the speed except for and now we've got some friends who are uh working catastrophic have got
00:36:35
project indicated to that i considering that it's not a clearances penises uh targeting to this
00:36:41
being that changes in the differences et cetera so i would not consider that
00:36:45
it just there but uh by chance and what we see for instance on that
00:36:50
directly to of course it that it uh x. on uh the essence moreover
00:36:55
uh uh we have evidence showing that mike curve physicals can
00:36:59
be taken up even binders in italian out arteries
00:37:02
not on the the spin opinionated or a will of course this is
00:37:06
more amount but to the interaction is possible uh um and
00:37:11
i should you deep impact uh on this directly t. in zero this setting we got to the data
00:37:17
uh in a uh in nice with a mind of refuge in your bedroom where the impact
00:37:22
muscular activity strongly so in the in the that's good or bad
00:37:28
so mm but what the concerning the the fact of
00:37:33
being more specific um the technique yes please
00:37:41
yeah well
00:37:50
yeah so with the technique we use um
00:37:56
uh we are analysing only the larger micro physicals uh with the the user with that
00:38:02
now a new technique and raising the smallest one but which is interesting is that
00:38:07
uh it apparently does more one uh carry less information than anyone
00:38:14
it appears that the information is taken by the larger physicals and it said
00:38:18
uh microscopes and not by the exams i'm talking about about the psychology
00:38:24
um then we would be interested in uh was or about
00:38:29
the sidewalk quite comfortable with our um way of
00:38:31
detection we validated that in the summer studies so we are able population uh i think is a robust
00:38:38
then there are also say populations uh what about the the
00:38:42
person's without on the circuit circuit percent except raw
00:38:46
uh this is uh not strike or what they deserve it meets a a lot
00:38:51
of set that because they are less common these uh uh this sense
00:38:57
and um and also you have to find a marker
00:39:01
that is specific for the seller foraging which is not so strict a lot
00:39:06
uh if you want them marker in the broad specific up for two percent for instance
00:39:10
it would not be so easy so this is the the quite challenging said that that the
00:39:17
we we work on that uh and and then you
00:39:22
so i would not consider that they if they have just local action they can have also an action remote action
00:39:29
but definitive you have a re a look accent for sure and then
00:39:32
would be interested in micro physicals present locally within that you're
00:39:38
and i'm not so comfortable uh we is the result of study is taking it but aside
00:39:43
putting on the better side or whatever and then uh uh collecting my course records
00:39:49
because uh i'm not sure of the relevance of what you have a of my current occurrence
00:39:55
i would definitely prefer my crazy 'cause i've edited from the lever of mice are animals
00:40:00
uh the but it's kind of like with um isolation of set us
00:40:05
it's not a more even more difficult raising great isolationist stance
00:40:11
the common uh sure because and yeah it it all fixed up because and models so there's um
00:40:21
they pick it because and all the acts like directly on the buttons right it
00:40:26
doesn't act on any other little cell is not capture shots and the signal
00:40:33
for influencing other people cells came from that but it came from the
00:40:38
but aside from that but aside and you have a better site
00:40:42
and from perhaps that are being treated with the implication
00:40:46
and you have the the so called johnny take this to make them and you quit other cells
00:40:51
you can see that the information travels from one to the others and you got the
00:40:56
if you put it because central culture and you take after was like icicles
00:41:02
from these and you at my critical faction into cultures
00:41:06
other little cells we point so much else matters
00:41:11
and it looks like it is from this more
00:41:16
a a size macros that it that it so i'll buy it looks like
00:41:22
by him giving him prick aside what if i picked out of the
00:41:26
i quizzical stopped producing italy but i'm probably this is the way that transmit information
00:41:32
but cell types but these getting selected in the in the in um
00:41:37
you know ways i you just said but the evil also
00:41:43
we were curious to see whether we put the hat
00:41:49
the stunts i take a effects of direct you to modifying
00:41:53
systemic but not mix because from the paper impatient now
00:41:58
anything about the mechanism of action yeah but i was able eight
00:42:02
amoco related to changes in your resistance in in perhaps
00:42:06
it appears to be like the nine percent due to changes in houston's out without any
00:42:13
you may them exchange so that we uh i would object rating they did but
00:42:18
effects and well it's it's curious because we we got degrees of popped
00:42:24
out of out of the disciples and um happening usually sort of
00:42:30
of different kinds of microwaves because that's got a check so object but all these can be um
00:42:38
not related to the number but up the body of the actors calls okay but
00:42:50
and we don't you think i could crash uh because the the then fledgling group
00:42:55
published a paper uh showing that the americas and decreases fibres is as well
00:43:01
uh and the uh
00:43:06
and uh the the fake irksome was a acute or
00:43:10
chronic i mean it was unrelated fibre this or
00:43:18
oh okay i
00:43:26
oh okay i i
00:43:35
okay so you can show on that uh that ah that degree or the
00:43:40
amount of ah my christy calls coming from capital side increases in the
00:43:45
more ah advances stages of zeros is but in these stages yeah that lever
00:43:51
under seal it also more copyrights only losers they are fun extra
00:43:55
so do you think that they uh these increasing in
00:43:59
lot ah upside arrived ah ah micro bicycles
00:44:04
comes a remaining finance stuff in this area more or that they got the code ah
00:44:10
go through the end of that i mean any other way like this with an ethics
00:44:17
i don't know this is a very good question differently uh i mean on so to that but this is a good question
00:44:27
yeah i know i did as many not but you might have seen these uh interesting paper showing that it could be
00:44:34
interesting to discriminate the by uh an invasion with p. s. c. uh current events in a
00:44:40
laugh from uh uh the nine the uh standards is so but i i didn't
00:44:48
thank you very much for nice presentation when you treat patients with her
00:44:52
domain is there any change quantity quality of microscopes and node
00:44:59
uh no i'm not aware of in the study uh
00:45:03
uh i seen that uh uh mm mm no
00:45:08
i don't know i uh this is a good question
00:45:14
with this of studies that stern you know the question i might do short one
00:45:21
i'm pretty much interested in per nonstick markers liver disease and you have show that
00:45:25
these promising so that might be a role for looking at mike about bicycles
00:45:31
my question is does wasn't quite that that would use group with many different stages of people disease
00:45:36
and you show that the amount of michael bicycles is related to probe
00:45:40
news operation my question is did you try to look within
00:45:45
more compensated stage and the more decompose at this stage whether these changes whether the remains
00:45:50
or whether they're not only the amount to microscope but maybe they it did you g.
00:45:55
t. outside mike russell could be a differential way of study find those within
00:46:01
it should be but the stage the ongoing uh yeah so yeah this is a this is an excellent
00:46:08
question is exactly what we are working on at the moment we're uh going on both sides
00:46:14
the competitive patients take a patients allowed records to see a long table
00:46:20
patients euphoria that it's really patients uh that will be compensate
00:46:25
from the those wooden that eh and in most of your patients
00:46:29
and use a a spectrum if we are able to
00:46:32
uh identify those who will die or uh uh do a
00:46:36
and elegance function as compared to those uh with that
00:46:40
but yeah this is definitely the this is the next step yeah all the currents that i i i
00:46:50
yes uh then the basically we observe
00:46:54
then also uh the group um
00:46:58
of uh and should man helps german uh that the as expected our invasion with it
00:47:04
but it is your it it's yours is more people segment critical patients with
00:47:08
uh i call rate it's yours is more you to find related services for
00:47:12
instance it was expected that it has been a a shot up so
00:47:17
so more of that uh not so much we had
00:47:22
the feeling that uh it's euros these um
00:47:28
uh is more buttons i would say that was ah come abilities a meeting that if
00:47:34
you take for instance it's known that the tobacco distributing your art at attention
00:47:39
increase um my critical never that your population we do not accept that and we've got the feeling that series is
00:47:46
is a more uh put on that would say this page and then uh come up with these

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