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Debate - Building the Future: Participatory Projects for Transition
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Friday, Aug. 25, 2017 · 2:46 p.m. · 15m 15s
Victoria Leaney-Brinkler, initiator of the Sustainable Development Center and manager of the ecogîte "Esprit du soleil" Charles Höhn, driver of this regional transition project and former mayor of the village of Bonstetten Moderator : Thierry Meyer, Editor-in-chief of 24heures followed by questions and answers with the audience
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uh before you lay if you will find it on the uh one of the tables it in the lobby is extremely interesting
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and this is an example is is extremely edifying
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and for people in of all region this is extremely interesting this is
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happening in zurich fourteen municipalities are joining forces all have joined forces
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and as i say in zurich is really under a a quite special people
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so i will begin with a question for you so we have quite short q. and a session because unfortunately
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what we don't have a well isn't just anyway it's time it's moving forward inexorably but
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you but if but your presentations works really interesting i want to begin with you
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show on how to you
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well how did you succeed in bringing together all these interests
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two
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bring this project to fruition because saying no we don't want construction we don't want a most
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way sporting a valley is easy to say now it's within an hour to singer
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creating something like this and succeeding in implementing it
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with fourteen different municipalities we know what it means to have lots of different responses
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what was the crucial elements in six eating this way
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uh_huh
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so that's the other questions very justified
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i'm going to answer in german otherwise i'm going to get lost uh as i read twice yeah
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oh please uh grab the headset if you need one
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so the composition was very positive all the members were very positive about the project to the presidents of the
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municipalities wanted to if a favour the development of the
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region and ends in previous caught your life
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i know what people i think because i began when i began a project i said
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that this is something that can uh take the project forward into the future
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so people uh don't have the headsets but remember georgetown was for thirteen years
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the the men yeah all the sound because we call them in switzerland
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the method of only fourteen municipalities so
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it has to be a consensus and at the leadership of these municipalities the conditions
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are beginning with good that was a real will to preserve and develop
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so there was a good strong basis that was preexisting and favoured this project
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i i i i i
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so i have chosen to present my projects in a way that makes people understand this
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i mean you know people who would be resistance but i prepared for this and this led to very possibly save
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results but let's not forget the financial side things by
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working together you work more efficiently you work better
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for less cost you can have a better results you can have a a project a program that succeeds
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and has greater chance of succeeding so do the costs were sixty percent
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low uh them a by working together than by working individually
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it was important to have someone to have a critical
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view this he went to the uh someone who
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went to all kinds of groups you would not necessarily be a in imagery supportive the project
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so he if was confronted with the different uh points people could make about
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the cost of the product i found ways of answering a a
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critic criticism in terms of the cost it would uh involved
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oh so one final question was the population
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infuse yesterday but it was it included in that project was their opinions sorts
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the most uh uh and and danger creating a a living space that was not accepted
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draw a a what what
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was there with creating a kind of intimate uh which is graves
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preview a wonderful variable but um it was just a spectacle
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how do you how did you create something which is more about sustainable development role
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yeah we had an advantage but this should not be an excuse for other regions we had
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an exact an advantage because we have a regional newspaper which is hand distributed to every
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home twice a week and this allowed me to present a project to people to introduce
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these ideas we went to different neighbours to cooperatives who wants it to a renovate
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so we spread this information represented our ideas
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using examples examples a great motivates us
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communication is the crucial elements
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so examples of initiatives which have been successful in the past uh we
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used and through the local newspaper which is published twice a week
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uh they were explanations uh they will uh has information about how things can work to
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try and encourage population see the positive side uh and you victoria your project
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has the same characteristics the same dimension what is the different characteristics on a different dimension
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but is it follows the same spirit and you had to fight to obtain
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the opportunity to develop your project and you said it at the start
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they were uh there was resistance when it came to try to obtain financing and how
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do you get to the point where you all leading at project which is a little bit crazy
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and how do you convince enough people to get on board how how did you do that how did it go for you
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can you tell us what how this critical a phase took place
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which project let's begin with the a stroll house project
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well for the straw house
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i decided to to set up a bed and breakfast uh banks agrees
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to it sets up a agree to find it sets up
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and so the one real objectives uh from this point to uh for this project and in terms of
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uh the complexity things was the uh current funding side of things
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i'm sorry what practical unfairly courses to educate people and
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people uh we didn't want to pay for this
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and uh for the sustainable development sense uh we had to learn from uh i'll areas
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and for the sustainable a development centre is still in the gestation period this is much more complex project
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yes it's much more complex between ten and twenty percent
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of the project will be caught funded where people can
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health i can also work and uh contribute physically to uh the project
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and the aim is to uh
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uh uh reach a a cluster duration of thirty a french to uh
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our uh which is paid in males paid in in kinds of
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and this is the way of the uh not having to find financing and i in the long term uh oh
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is it not difficult at the scale of several means parties
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is it difficult to use volunteering um uh also
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paying people in kind for the hours where it is kind of a volunteer assistant to well i
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could explain let's in wales before we men if
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one point made a small uh wins turbine
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i will managed a big pay you the way you incorporated and it
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became the biggest one cooperatively to energy producer in the u. k.
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and it has raised forty million
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euros of funding a corpus of funding and if you
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a present examples um effectively to attend services and
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you can get somewhere and if you set up those lots of small projects
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uh ultimately you can finance a larger projects using
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the uh funds generated by the small projects
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uh this is not a normal way of operating right now but
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we wanted to become normal every once we would like um
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in in wales uh the computer systems of the news for lost forty five years
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and maybe we where's that little bit more advanced when it comes to the
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corporate reports but this is something that could be applied elsewhere to
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uh sir charles how often in life is monday the crux of the problem
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you have to convince municipalities
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see you take part and sometimes the municipalities of uh all prepared
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to pull out of these developments because at some point
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based c. is big binge too expensive it's a question of money ultimately how
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can you uh change um as it
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shoots to change the direction of
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the way people work when you have people that we have that
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areas of land available which can be a become a construct a ball and how
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do you switch from one conception of the elements to another
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uh one idea don't have a because ultimately though uh there's financial income
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yeah
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yeah
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well
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so it was almost a missionary work uh we had to go to different
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missus policies we had to promote the idea sometimes i was rejection
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uh fifteen years ago people talk about limiting
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these initiatives and we are working this way anymore
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we learned very quickly that developments of construction
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um is generates more tax revenue but the money that comes
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into head of uh the population is not as much
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so there's a new understanding that enables he was to attract people you are good time space
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uh_huh
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uh_huh okay zero oh no that i there is
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a double up and uh because it's important
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to keep 'em on billboards or other than double but yeah there is a physical
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a calculation because when we improve the general our life
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conditions who he defected to improve the general ah
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love life for everyone um the wheel drive to people who
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are expecting this uh this level uh huh yeah
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uh_huh uh_huh
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it's not only the quality of the taxpayer uh are
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we yeah yeah yeah we'll doing more
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attracting more people main is actually a vicious circle because we need to build
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more and we get more taxes and we need to build more
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so i actually per capita yeah there is less ah a text
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and more building generate
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or a negative aspects so basically what you've a danger
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on the on the one hand
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we lost on the other hand
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so for the financial point of view it's it's pretty that but uh
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in terms of quality of life uh again it's less is more
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few minutes for a has some questions for where would like
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or is his or her hand
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or
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uh_huh uh_huh is the straw has a positive in terms of energy
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yes it would uh produces nine thousand eight hundred care what's
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and we use twelve hundred for the heating
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our uh of the building and hardcore
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so it's a six types uh_huh
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uh_huh
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uh_huh our well thank you very much
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